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2023-24 Around the NBA Thread
What luck for Atlanta. They dont own or control their own picks for a while. They owe San Antonio the 2025 and 27 picks and a swap in 2026. I think they have another swap out in 2028 as well. So they can take someone or flip that pick for at least 3-4 picks. Crazy they went from play in to #1...- Hoop Head
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- Forum: Phoenix Suns
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NBA Finals Predictions 2024 (Pick only 2)
He's around but I believe he's not as invested in the Suns as he's been in the past so appearances are more sporadic.- Hoop Head
- Post #36
- Forum: Phoenix Suns
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"It's like Looney Tunes around here" - A Suns source reveals how chaotic the organization is under new owner Mat Ishbia
I can see that. I'd prefer to have an owner with some semblance of BB IQ vs none though. It doesn't always work well but I think knowing basketball should be a plus when looking to expand certain facets of the organization like scouting, development, team and player amenities. Sarver was the...- Hoop Head
- Post #115
- Forum: Phoenix Suns
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Suns 2024-2025 Season Discussions
Maybe he doesn't want to be here? If reports are true and he tore into the big 3 for their lackadaisical attitudes then maybe he'll opt to ring chase elsewhere.- Hoop Head
- Post #125
- Forum: Phoenix Suns
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NBA Finals Predictions 2024 (Pick only 2)
Best summary of Ayton and Nurkic last off-season when the deal went down. Ayton has so much unrealized potential but he'll never put it together so getting someone like Nurk is really for the best. Nurkic knows his role and plays hard night in and night out. Throw in the other pieces like...- Hoop Head
- Post #33
- Forum: Phoenix Suns
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NBA Finals Predictions 2024 (Pick only 2)
2 of the 4 are in Dallas. Game 4 and Game 6. Still like OKC. They're the better team.- Hoop Head
- Post #31
- Forum: Phoenix Suns
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"It's like Looney Tunes around here" - A Suns source reveals how chaotic the organization is under new owner Mat Ishbia
And they know much more about basketball than Banker Bob did. Mat has a history with the sport, being a collegiate ball player. He has been friends with athletes and been one himself. Whether that helps him is anyone's guess but he's not just a rich guy with a hobby, he loves basketball.- Hoop Head
- Post #110
- Forum: Phoenix Suns
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Suns 2024-2025 Season Discussions
I hope Lee declines his option. Gordon and Okogie I'd like back.- Hoop Head
- Post #117
- Forum: Phoenix Suns
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Suns 2024-2025 Season Discussions
I don't hate it as a 3rd string option. He's not an everyday backup.- Hoop Head
- Post #111
- Forum: Phoenix Suns
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Vogel not the problem
A non-rebounding 2 guard is what's holding us back. Who could forget when Kobe dominated the league on the boards like MJ before him? This is such a weird complaint and that's it #1 on your list shows your whole diatribe is nonsense.- Hoop Head
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- Forum: Phoenix Suns
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Suns 2024-2025 Season Discussions
Because Siakam made him redundant. Why they declined the option on a lottery pick after one of the strangest rookie seasons in years was baffling. It made it more difficult to trade him for value since there were restrictions on how a team could retain him. He past on Halliburton for him too...- Hoop Head
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- Forum: Phoenix Suns
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Suns 2024-2025 Season Discussions
When I feel miserable and want to kick myself while I'm down I check out that draft thread. Haliburton fell in our lap. There was no excuse for passing given how quickly he cut bait on Stix as well. If he believed in Jalen, I could kind of see it but they declined his option and gave him away...- Hoop Head
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- Forum: Phoenix Suns
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Suns 2024-2025 Season Discussions
I'd give up the picks for a mulligan on the twins for KD deal. That team had heart and was young they had a future. I don't give a damn how much the Mavs series sucked. Know what's worse? A first round sweep.- Hoop Head
- Post #96
- Forum: Phoenix Suns
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NBA Finals Predictions 2024 (Pick only 2)
Bruce Brown was a Swiss army knife for them. He could come in for anyone other than Jokic and keep the offense and defense humming. They shouldn't have let him get away. Brown wasn't good in Indiana but they managed to flip him for Siakam, who is excellent with Haliburton and Turner. Almost...- Hoop Head
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- Forum: Phoenix Suns
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NBA Finals Predictions 2024 (Pick only 2)
Absolutely. Never in doubt.- Hoop Head
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- Forum: Phoenix Suns
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NBA Finals Predictions 2024 (Pick only 2)
Suns fans often overrate who ends our season. The Nuggets last year and the Wolves this year. I think the Nuggets were good last year and deserving champs but they're clearly beat up and tired right now. Ant Man is ascending to another level for the Wolves but I don't think the Wolves will win...- Hoop Head
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- Forum: Phoenix Suns
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Can we blame Vogel?
Not shooting the messenger, just wanted to point how unreliable Flex is. First he said Vogel was staying and then he backpedaled some and said if Vogel is fired it will happen Monday or Tuesday. It's Thursday, Vogel is gone. Flex is and always will be a con artist who happened to get 1 thing...- Hoop Head
- Post #129
- Forum: Phoenix Suns
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Can we blame Vogel?
Can we call what he did last season coaching?- Hoop Head
- Post #128
- Forum: Phoenix Suns
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Can we blame Vogel?
Scott Brooks Frank Vogel Steve Nash Monty Williams Kevin Young Kenny Atkinson There's a good number of them. There's a reason you don't see anyone campaigning for the position.- Hoop Head
- Post #126
- Forum: Phoenix Suns
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Can we blame Vogel?
If KD demands a trade then everyone involved in acquiring him should be fired and black balled from the Suns organization. It's already one of the worst trades in franchise history but it'll be the undisputed worst if he demands out a year and a half later.- Hoop Head
- Post #122
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Can we blame Vogel?
People keep saying stuff like this and how he'll spare no expense yet it seems he has cut corners when available. Not firing Vogel because of his contract is a problem. If he's not the guy but you don't want to be paying a third coach so you hope he can turn it around and become the guy then...- Hoop Head
- Post #115
- Forum: Phoenix Suns
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The 2024 NBA playoffs thread
I remember wanting to draft Brunson but I saw a Tyus Jones type of game manager at best. Steady play making PG who manages an offense. Maybe like CP3 in his last year here, without the 4th quarter heroics. Brunson has become much more than that. He's a better scorer than anyone could have thought.- Hoop Head
- Post #415
- Forum: Phoenix Suns
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2023-24 Around the NBA Thread
ESPN+ has an article out of the most valuable players from the first round. 1 Sun was on there, at #20, and no one else even got an honorable mention. They even make mention of the Suns "Big 3" being among the most disappointing Big 3 ever assembled...- Hoop Head
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- Forum: Phoenix Suns
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Suns 2024-2025 Season Discussions
This started crazy saying we could win a title and then you double down repeatedly. Beal is not coming off the bench, nor should he. He was the only one of the big 3 who tweaked his game to play off of the other guys and did so well. He not only took on PG duties but often drew the toughest...- Hoop Head
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