Isn't it a little early for Scorpions??

[SECTION 11]

Found a big fat one on the door jamb of my front door last night.

bastards....

[maddogkf]

..Iraqi secret stealth attack?

[RonF]

SKkorpians are a sign of good luck. If you kill it you will bring seven years of bad luck upon us. Oh my gosh! Have you killed them before? No wonder we struggle.

[SECTION 11]

Originally posted by RonF
SKkorpians are a sign of good luck. If you kill it you will bring seven years of bad luck upon us. Oh my gosh! Have you killed them before? No wonder we struggle.


Usually I keep them in a glass vase and feed them crickets.

[Cardinals.Ken]

I've lived in the Valley for 7 years, and I've only seen them at my work in Tempe...

[SECTION 11]

I've seen them:

in my kitchen drawers (twice. same drawer)
middle of my master bathroom floor
door jambs to at least three doors
ceiling directly above showerhead
nearly every wall in the house

probably about 25 in four years, after only seeing about 5 in the first three years of living there.

[Cardinal Bob]

How big are they generally? Can't they be fatal?

No scorpions in Jersey! ;)

[SECTION 11]

Originally posted by Cardinal Bob
How big are they generally? Can't they be fatal?

No scorpions in Jersey! ;)

Anywhere from an inch to two inches.

They can be in rare cases to some people. Generally as an adult it will just hurt like hell. If stung you should call poison control. They'll tell you how you should feel, anything else you should go to the emergency room.
Something along the lines of increasing pain for about six hours, then it should die down.

[Brian in Mesa]

I used to live at Saratoga Apartments in Mesa, near University and Dobson, when they were putting the 101 in and extending the 202. You would not believe how many scorpions that rousted from the ground. We used to take a blacklight out on the balconies and walkways and point out all the scorpions. The occassional scorpion would sneak indoors on it's own but we captured plenty of them and kept them in terrariums, feeding them crickets. We even had a pair that had a ton of babies...that's scary. The smaller they are the more dangerous they are because they do not hold back their "poison."

[Krangthebrain]

I've been stung 3 times...I told you about that already Section 11.:D

Once was by a bark scorpion....not fun.

[jstadvl]

to get them all the time. I did have one about a week and a half ago. incher. I spray hairspray on them then catch them in a cup and get rid of them. But it does seem out of season.

[jkf296]

I live @ Higley / Southern in Mesa. We live on a cul-de-sac. Every summer we probably get a dozen or so. This past summer we went to the end of our cul-de-sac where there is a grassy area with trees right along the canal that separates us from Seizure World. The grass area is about 50 feet from my house.

Got myself a nice can of cheap hair spray and a torcher lighter.

Went out twice a week for about a month - we fried - no kidding here - about 40 scorps each night.

I'm hoping that there won't be as many this year as a result.

Hopefully I won't be there anyways - people accepted our offer on a new house @ Gilbert / Elliott - so we just have to sell ours now! Probably won't say anything about the scoprions!

[maddogkf]

Originally posted by jkf296
Hopefully I won't be there anyways - people accepted our offer on a new house @ Gilbert / Elliott - so we just have to sell ours now! Probably won't say anything about the scoprions!

Really????

Oh boy...there goes the neighborhood....I don't think the wives will like it only being two miles away now.

I'll dust the cobwebs off the PS2 & put some cold ones in the fridge.

:thumbup:

[RonF]

Originally posted by Krangthebrain
I've been stung 3 times...I told you about that already Section 11.:D

Once was by a bark scorpion....not fun.

I would think thought once would be enough for most folks. :D

[Krangthebrain]

Originally posted by RonF
I would think thought once would be enough for most folks. :D

Scorpions are sneaky little bastards...:D

My folks live in the foothills of Ahwatukee, a very nice area, but a lot of scorpions.....I think if I'm not mistaken, that Section 11 lives in Ahwatukee too.

My parents live right at South Mountain, so they get a lot of scorpions.

[SECTION 11]

Originally posted by Krangthebrain
Section 11 lives in Ahwatukee too


I live in a cave in the desert. It's quaint.

[Brian in Mesa]

the real question is: has skkorpion ever been stung?

[Red Air Force]

I lived in Gilbert for 19 years and never saw a SINLGE one.

It wasn't until I went to Kuwait that I got to see one, a big nasty 4 inch black one, that came scurrying out of my boot. :eek:

[Cardinal Bob]

Originally posted by SECTION 11
Anywhere from an inch to two inches.

They can be in rare cases to some people. Generally as an adult it will just hurt like hell. If stung you should call poison control. They'll tell you how you should feel, anything else you should go to the emergency room.
Something along the lines of increasing pain for about six hours, then it should die down.

Wow! I thought they'd be bigger then that. That's interesting to know. I'm guessing the sting hurts a lot more than your average bee sting.

[Northern Card]

One more reason for me to stay in the snow belt....

[Chris_Sanders]

I have been stung twice. No big deal.

[Krangthebrain]

Originally posted by Chris_Sanders
I have been stung twice. No big deal.

Try being stung by a bark scorpion.

Bark scorpions use a potent neurotoxin, that screws with your nervous system big time. Not much pain, but tinkly, itchy sensations throughout your body. Convulsions, swelling of the tongue, increased saliva production, loss of vision, loss of muscular control, and finally breathing problems.

Ended up in the hospital, with what was dubbed by the doctors that worked with me, as the single worst sting that any of them had seen. I was miserable, and would only wish that kind of a reaction on OBL and Saddam Hussein.:D

[Cardinator]

I've lived in the valley for 23 years and I've only encountered one scorpion in that time. My wife came out of the shower and almost stepped on it. Boy did she scream!

I have seen lots of Black Widows. I used to get two to three in my garage every year. I seem to have won that battle because I haven't seen any in over a year.

[Chris_Sanders]

Sounds pretty unpleasant.

I live in the north mesa section of town off of Gilbert Rd right by the 202. After they put the 202 in, I have seen several scorpions in the house.

Fortunately I have two cats, who are natural predators to them. My cat named Mouse will corner it and fight it until I come and kill it.

Cats are highly resistant to scorpion venom. If you live in a scorpion area, get a cat.

[CardinalChris]

Originally posted by CaliforniaCard
I lived in Gilbert for 19 years and never saw a SINLGE one.

It wasn't until I went to Kuwait that I got to see one, a big nasty 4 inch black one, that came scurrying out of my boot. :eek:

Did you see a Camel spider over there? Nastiest insect on the face of the planet, named because it will kill a camel. About 2-3 inches long, HUGE fangs, back end almost looks like a catapillar and about as fast as a rodent. When they get mad they pick the back two pair of legs off the ground and run randomly, looking to bite anything.

[Krangthebrain]

Originally posted by Chris_Sanders
Sounds pretty unpleasant.

I live in the north mesa section of town off of Gilbert Rd right by the 202. After they put the 202 in, I have seen several scorpions in the house.

Fortunately I have two cats, who are natural predators to them. My cat named Mouse will corner it and fight it until I come and kill it.

Cats are highly resistant to scorpion venom. If you live in a scorpion area, get a cat.

I have two! :D

I heard that a long time ago....I witnessed it firsthand when my sister's cat took out a scorpion, but was stung multiple times. The cat, was barely affected by it....at least cats have some use other than lazying around the house.:D

[Krangthebrain]

Originally posted by CardinalChris
Did you see a Camel spider over there? Nastiest insect on the face of the planet, named because it will kill a camel. About 2-3 inches long, HUGE fangs, back end almost looks like a catapillar and about as fast as a rodent. When they get mad they pick the back two pair of legs off the ground and run randomly, looking to bite anything.

Don't camel spiders eat flesh? I heard that they will eat your face if they get you at night....sounded like a myth, but there might be some truth to it.

[CardinalChris]

Originally posted by Chris_Sanders
Sounds pretty unpleasant.


Cats are highly resistant to scorpion venom. If you live in a scorpion area, get a cat.

What about Dogs?

[Chris_Sanders]

If Cats natural enemity with Scorpions is what spawned them being so revered in Egypt. I mean, if you are a primative person and you see a cat kill a scorpion, get stung multiple times, and be just fine...I bet that would seem pretty divine to you.

[Chris_Sanders]

Don't have any special resistance to scorpion venom. However, I am sure he will bark pretty loud at it, letting you know it is there =)

[CardinalChris]

Originally posted by Krangthebrain
Don't camel spiders eat flesh? I heard that they will eat your face if they get you at night....sounded like a myth, but there might be some truth to it.

Not sure, but their venom is like a brown recluse.... it eats the tissue under your skin until you cut it out, like a spreading infection. They treat a bite by inserting cotton swabs with a solution INTO THE HOLES IN SKIN CREATED BY THE BITES to keep it from spreading. They are big enough they could eat a lot!!! Seriously, that is the only spider that ever scared me.

[DeAnna]

Originally posted by maddogkf
Elliott and Gilbert

We'll practically be neighbors....I'm on Elliott and Cooper.

[SECTION 11]

Originally posted by Krangthebrain
Don't camel spiders eat flesh? I heard that they will eat your face if they get you at night....sounded like a myth, but there might be some truth to it.

I hate spiders. I didn't need to read that!

[Stronso]

Originally posted by CardinalChris
Not sure, but their venom is like a brown recluse.... it eats the tissue under your skin until you cut it out, like a spreading infection. They treat a bite by inserting cotton swabs with a solution INTO THE HOLES IN SKIN CREATED BY THE BITES to keep it from spreading. They are big enough they could eat a lot!!! Seriously, that is the only spider that ever scared me.

Yeah the recluse spiders are the only ones that bug me out :)

I have got stung on 2 separate occaisions by scorpions and it is no big deal. First time I was 10 yrs old while sitting in the sectional couch. Damn thing crawled up between the crack of thecouch and stung me on the inner thigh by my knee. I jumped up and saw the thing scamper away back down towards the floor. I ran into the kitchen, grabbed a can of raid, pulled the couch apart and blasted the thing. It WOULD NOT DIE!! I was floored! So I grabbed a shoe and beat it to death!! I then told my Mom what happened and we called a doctor friend of ours. He just told me to put ice on it and keep my leg elevated. No big deal. The second one got me when I came out of the shower - bastard!! Grabbed a shoe and beat it to death and grabbed some ice - no big deal.

My girlfriend and I are talking about moving back to Phoenix in the near future. My concern now for scorps, etc centers around our 8 mos old daughter. I will get the place regularly sprayed to solve that.

[Krangthebrain]

Originally posted by Stronso
Yeah the recluse spiders are the only ones that bug me out :)

I have got stung on 2 separate occaisions by scorpions and it is no big deal. First time I was 10 yrs old while sitting in the sectional couch. Damn thing crawled up between the crack of thecouch and stung me on the inner thigh by my knee. I jumped up and saw the thing scamper away back down towards the floor. I ran into the kitchen, grabbed a can of raid, pulled the couch apart and blasted the thing. It WOULD NOT DIE!! I was floored! So I grabbed a shoe and beat it to death!! I then told my Mom what happened and we called a doctor friend of ours. He just told me to put ice on it and keep my leg elevated. No big deal. The second one got me when I came out of the shower - bastard!! Grabbed a shoe and beat it to death and grabbed some ice - no big deal.

My girlfriend and I are talking about moving back to Phoenix in the near future. My concern now for scorps, etc centers around our 8 mos old daughter. I will get the place regularly sprayed to solve that.

Bug spray doesn't work.

You use diatomaceous earth. It dries the natural wax coating on their exoskeleton and kills them.

There are plenty of places in the valley that have no scorpions, but you could just get a cat, which actively hunts and kills scorpions.

[Krangthebrain]

Originally posted by SECTION 11
I hate spiders. I didn't need to read that!

Spiders are my one fear.....well, I guess that I'm afraid of jelly fish, man-o-wars, sharks.....:D

[CardinalChris]

Originally posted by Krangthebrain
Spiders are my one fear.....well, I guess that I'm afraid of jelly fish, man-o-wars, sharks.....:D

Box Jellyfish in Australia kills you in 45 seconds....

[jkf296]

Originally posted by Krangthebrain
There are plenty of places in the valley that have no scorpions, but you could just get a cat, which actively hunts and kills scorpions.

I think I'd rather get stung than get a cat.

[Dback Jon]

Camel Spiders or Wind Scorpions are neither spiders or scorpions.
Camel Spiders

Camel spiders are one of the fastest running arthropods. Although they have four pairs of legs, they run using only three pairs. The first pair of legs or pedipalpi are held up in front of them and used in a similar manner to the antennae of insects. They have very long, silky setae and are constantly moving in order to locate and pick-up prey. Despite their fearsome appearance and their strong bite, solifugids are unlikely to harm humans. In the past they were considered venomous and extremely dangerous but it is now thought that the only risk of injury resulting from them is caused by shock or infection following a bite. There is no evidence of venom in any part of their body.

Camel spiders are nocturnal predators of other arthropods including scorpions and are voracious feeders. Some species kill and feed on lizards and it is speculated that others kill mice and birds. They rely solely on their speed and stealth to catch their prey. In desert areas they are often attracted to lights at night in search of food and their appearance can cause alarm if they enter tents. It is rare to see them during the winter months and they are thought to hide or hibernate during cold periods.

[Red Air Force]

Originally posted by CardinalChris
Did you see a Camel spider over there? Nastiest insect on the face of the planet, named because it will kill a camel. About 2-3 inches long, HUGE fangs, back end almost looks like a catapillar and about as fast as a rodent. When they get mad they pick the back two pair of legs off the ground and run randomly, looking to bite anything.

Yeah, we had one take off running through our tent, and we spent the next three hours tearing the tent apart trying to corner it and kill it. Those suckers are fast.

A buddy of mine got bit on the top of the thigh one night. At fist he just thought it was a sand flea bite that was getting infected. It started out as a hole about the size of a dime, but after the pain got too unbearable, he went to the medic where they proceded to squeeze a good portion of his liquified muscle out of the bite wound.

After it was all said and done, he was left with an gaping wound about 5 inches wide in diameter. :(

[jkf296]

camel spider:

[jkf296]

wind scorpion:

[jkf296]

box jelly:

[Red Air Force]

Originally posted by jkf296
camel spider:

Thats it.

I was told they get their name from the way the feed. They attach themselves to the bellies of camels, and inject a form of novicane to numb the skin, before turning the flesh to mush and then sucking it out.

[SECTION 11]

Geezuz. That things just f*ing nasty.

I'm creeped out.

[Stronso]

Seriously!! got new neroses to work on now - camel spiders - eeeek :eek:

[Cardinal Bob]

The wind scorpion looks truly evil. The camel spider sounds truly evil.

Glad I live in Jersey where we only have to worry about suicidal drivers! :D

[maddogkf]

Originally posted by Krangthebrain
I've been stung 3 times...I told you about that already Section 11.:D

Once was by a bark scorpion....not fun.

Watch out for those barking spiders

[EndZone]

Hey 11 I have a friend who lives in Tookie and he was infested with Skkorps. He paid like $800 to "Scorpion proof" his house. And he said it worked, has not seen one since and that was over a year ago...those things freak me out. Never seen one in my house but I house sat for a guy over a weekend and say 2...I told him to find a new housesitter!

[Krangthebrain]

There is a type of spider out here that is very similar to the camel spider (and I wouldn't doubt if they were one and the same).

I saw one once in Ahwatukee and it moved really fast and scared the **** out of me. The creepy little thing ran right at me faster than any insect I've ever seen....

[Northern Card]

God!!! can we have a new signing ASAP... so this can end...

[Stronso]

Originally posted by Krangthebrain
There is a type of spider out here that is very similar to the camel spider (and I wouldn't doubt if they were one and the same).

I saw one once in Ahwatukee and it moved really fast and scared the **** out of me. The creepy little thing ran right at me faster than any insect I've ever seen....

Get the fu@& outta here! Those things are in AZ? I grew up there and I never heard of them. Are you guys serious?

[SECTION 11]

Originally posted by EndZone
Hey 11 I have a friend who lives in Tookie and he was infested with Skkorps. He paid like $800 to "Scorpion proof" his house. And he said it worked, has not seen one since and that was over a year ago...those things freak me out. Never seen one in my house but I house sat for a guy over a weekend and say 2...I told him to find a new housesitter!

I prefer a good old fashioned duel in the garage.

Large heavy objects at twenty paces!

[SweetD]

I killed my last one with my 9 Irion. It took awhile becouse I had to put back my 7 irion, becouse that is the only one I can hit the ball with. :)

[40yearfan]

Originally posted by SweetD
I killed my last one with my 9 Irion. It took awhile becouse I had to put back my 7 irion, becouse that is the only one I can hit the ball with. :) <P>SweetD---Were you drinking when you typed this?:wave:

[KingofCards]

I have had three Scorpions at my house since we bought it in August.

Killed two of them and the other escaped due to spousal idiocy.


I once had a skunk in my tent.

[Coyote Tony]

Originally posted by Cardinal Bob
No scorpions in Jersey! ;)
They are also intelligent.

[jstadvl]

you spray scorps w/hairspray prior to killing them is they carry their babies on their backs. True?

[SECTION 11]

Originally posted by KingofCards
I once had a skunk in my tent.


Is that code for something?

[jkf296]

Originally posted by jstadvl
you spray scorps w/hairspray prior to killing them is they carry their babies on their backs. True?

No, because with the hairspray - you get an awesome fireball and flame thrower.

[Audrey19]

Maybe I'm just a wimp, but when I was 12 a baby bark scorpion stung me while I was half asleep. I thought a thick, foot-long needle went into my arm! After that I don't remember pain, but the memory of the initial sting has stayed with me all these years.

My sister's dog was stung in the face... he didn't like it too much and kept rubbing it, but he was fine. I heard it depends on where dogs are hit as to whether or not it's dangerous for them.

[jw7]

I live in the Foothills as well. I used to have a great exterminator. He switched me from the regular stuff to Noxout (microencapusated diazanon) and that did the trick. Used to get 6-10/yr then it wen't down to 0-1/year.

Unfortunately they got bought out by Terminex and they don't offer that chemical. They started coming back and finally I switched to another company. They don't use Noxout but it is similar in effect, and I think I've only seen one since I switched.