Magic @ Suns Monday game thread, November 18th, 2024

[Mainstreet]

End of 3rd quarter:

Magic 84 - Suns 68

 

[BirdGangThing]

one more quarter to go - we've shown signs of life but it'll take defense and some aggressive offense

 

[Mainstreet]

Monte getting it going.

 

[Mainstreet]

Good to see Dunn hit the 3-pointer.

 

[Hoop Head]

It's today's NBA, position less basketball.

This theory the league has gone position-less ignores how players have become harder to define by 1 or 2 positions. The way successful teams play is roughly the same though. 1 offensive initiator who does the bulk of the ball handling while directing the teams offense. He's also the first of defense. Then 2-3 wings who can stretch the floor, attack the basket, and defend 3-4 opposing players at most times. Then 1-2 bigs that can finish inside at a high rate. They can rebound on both sides, creating more scoring opportunities, and defend the paint as a last line of defense. A strong big can get away with being the only big, like Embiid, or if they're paired with a large wing who can rebound then you can get away with 1, like AD next to LeBron in LA.

Positionless basketball is kind of a myth though. The league isn't positionless, the positions are no longer dictated by height like they were for decades because the level of athletes now is so much more than it ever was. You can be a 6'11" 270 lbs PG like Ben Simmons or a 6'5" PF/C like PJ Tucker. They aren't without position, they don't fit traditional labels.

 

[BirdGangThing]

that's a wrap

 

[Mainstreet]

It's today's NBA, position less basketball.

However, a player has to be able to play at least one position.

 

[Mainstreet]

Josh has to take the open three. It was the best shot.

 

[mjb21aztd]

Disgustingggg effort by suns no fight at all vs frekin magic at home what a joke

Sad suns fan

 

[Hoop Head]

IIRC, Tyus is a good shooter. If the Suns get Gillespie back (and he makes the regular roster), I believe Monte has second round value.

Tyus has been a reluctant shooter. That's been my issue with him.

I don't think we should trade Monte for a 2nd rounder. He's more beneficial to us. Plus it's more likely he stays beyond this season than Tyus.

 

[BirdGangThing]

now would be a good time to get hot and steal this game - dunn and oneale haven't done jack tonight

greyson - okogie - tyus - oso and?

 

[Mainstreet]

Disgustingggg effort by suns no fight at all vs frekin magic at home what a joke

Sad suns fan

The Suns are playing back-to-back games.

Besides they are so small they look like ants out there compared to the Magic.

 

[BirdGangThing]

here we go

 

[Mainstreet]

Suns have the Magic lead down to 10.

 

[BirdGangThing]

getting chippy out there - nothing wrong with a little chaos if you're 10 points down - nothing to lose at least

 

[Mainstreet]

Don't make Grayson mad...

 

[Mainstreet]

Whatever happened to flopping?

 

[BirdGangThing]

dude put his hands all on the ref and they're looking at greyson - unbelievable

 

[BirdGangThing]

lol - now phx is challenging the screen foul

 

[BirdGangThing]

that was a dumb challenge

 

[BirdGangThing]

book³

 

[BirdGangThing]

lol book

 

[Hoop Head]

Booker with hero ball. Disregarding his teammates. SMH.


(I kid)

 

[BirdGangThing]

gringo kd is killing us

 

[Hoop Head]

Bud is too quick to challenge calls. I can see how the players like it but he needs to save his challenge for later on more critical plays.