Magic @ Suns Monday game thread, November 18th, 2024

[BirdGangThing]

looks like the suns could use the break

 

[Mainstreet]

The Suns are only shooting 40.7%. The Magic, 50.7%.

 

[Hoop Head]

Okogie sucks

 

[BirdGangThing]

oso had a hell of a coming out tho - been waiting to see what the young man can do - we're not talking all star but we are talking defense and offensive production in the paint

 

[BirdGangThing]

really glad we got off to that hot start early in the season

 

[Mainstreet]

Final:

Magic 109 - Suns 99

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[Mainstreet]

There will be a eulogy for the Suns after the game.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I might have been a little quick to put the admittedly pie in the sky ceiling of Kawhi Leonard on Ryan Dunn.

 

[BirdGangThing]

look at those oso minutes

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[clyde2tw]

Suns played above my expectation for the game. Oso, Okogie, Morris positively surprised me with their games. Plumlee was solid with his usual shortcoming. Royce had been bad for the last 5 games, no confidence in his shots. Allen and Tyus were too streaky, if either of them could shoot the 3s and FTs at their capable level! Booker's decison making has been odd by forcing too many pullup 3s. Generally, our game plan could use more optimization to create open shots for hot hands, our ball too often ends in cold hands like RO and Dunn in this game, rarely in GA and JO's in the 2nd half when both were on. Our rooks Oso and Dunn have good and bad traits and need maturation time.

 

[Hoop Head]

Not sure how but the Suns can pull off a deal for some size or who that size is but we're headed towards another disappointing 1st round exit if nothing is done. We've given the entire league a blueprint of how to dismantle us. The only team in the top 10 that I think we might be able to beat in a series are the Clippers, and that isn't a gimme.

 

[Mainstreet]

Not sure how but the Suns can pull off a deal for some size or who that size is but we're headed towards another disappointing 1st round exit if nothing is done. We've given the entire league a blueprint of how to dismantle us. The only team in the top 10 that I think we might be able to beat in a series are the Clippers, and that isn't a gimme.

The writing has been on the wall all season.

It's a shame because the Suns weakness at point guard has been fixed, especially when Gillespie returns.

He is on a two-way contract.

 

[GatorAZ]

Not sure how but the Suns can pull off a deal for some size or who that size is but we're headed towards another disappointing 1st round exit if nothing is done. We've given the entire league a blueprint of how to dismantle us. The only team in the top 10 that I think we might be able to beat in a series are the Clippers, and that isn't a gimme.

Robert Williams which would be the swing of all swings.

 

[BirdGangThing]

Phoenix Suns (@sunsphx.bsky.social)

Keeping the hustle.

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[Phrazbit]

The KD trade devastated the future, the Beal trade doubled down on it, but the Nurkic trade might be the real killer of any present hope.

We have a void on the inside and no reasonable way to address it.

We paid Allen and now he looks like one more albatross.

Fat Allen needs lypo and we need to inject his lard into Nurk.

 

[CardNots]

Down three starters, why would one expect a different outcome?

The goodness, its early in the season and the minutes given those who wouldn’t receive them ordinarily will pay dividends down the road.

 

[Peter Sheldon]

Down three starters, why would one expect a different outcome?

The goodness, its early in the season and the minutes given those who wouldn’t receive them ordinarily will pay dividends down the road.

I admire your optimism, but at present, I’m not sure there is a team in the league that the Suns could for sure beat.

 

[BirdGangThing]

we were just 9-2 lol - books getting doubled and folks aren't hitting their shots when he passes out of it - our offense has understandably fallen off without kd and beal in the line up - imagine that

i also happen to notice this thing called defense - which we're starting to get better at - i was a nurk guy but now im a bud guy - meaning what have you done for us lately and im specifically talking about the last 15 minutes

you've seen what this team can do - right off the back too - so im not going to argue about who should stay or go - far as i can tell nobody's going anywhere - we're phx fans so i understand but we're clearly better than last year and don't know what we have yet + we're developing two rookies!

im still good

 

[Covert Rain]

Down three starters, why would one expect a different outcome?

The goodness, its early in the season and the minutes given those who wouldn’t receive them ordinarily will pay dividends down the road.

This. This injury stretch sucks and the Suns can't afford for it to last much longer but this board is moody. If the team gets healthy and goes on another streak the mood will swing back the other way. The question becomes can this team even stay healthy enough to actually make a lasting run this season? That to me is the biggest concern. No matter how good this team is when healthy? None of that matters if they can't stay healthy.

 

[Carolinacacti]

The KD trade devastated the future, the Beal trade doubled down on it, but the Nurkic trade might be the real killer of any present hope.

We have a void on the inside and no reasonable way to address it.

We paid Allen and now he looks like one more albatross.

Fat Allen needs lypo and we need to inject his lard into Nurk.

It’s not over till the fat lady sings

 

[BirdGangThing]

yeah im just going to enjoy this season instead

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I’m not surprised beal misses games. I’m just surprised at how he misses games. Never seems a big injury. Always seems to be an injury that should keep him out 2-3 games and then it’s 7-10 with a lumpy 15 game miss somewhere mixed in.

 

[Mainstreet]

We are not moody because of the losses, because we have seen Suns teams with many more losses than this do impressive things.

We are moody because the team as constructed is boring and uninspiring, and because it's prrrrobably financially locked into that design. It can't trade Bradley Beal's contract; trading Devin Booker would make many fans mad; and it would just be absurd to trade Kevin Durant.

The last Suns team that inspired me was the 2013-14 team, because it was a group that fought when (as I have suspected for years) management probably didn't believe in it. A few less injuries and it probably would have squeaked into the playoffs. Will this team do anything unexpectedly great? Possibly, but I see no evidence. I suppose when Kevin Durant plays again, he might carry the team to a championship on his back.

The Suns 2020-21 team was special as well. IMO, only one rotational big man short of a championship.

This Suns team has similar issues.

 

[Mainstreet]

Robert Williams which would be the swing of all swings.

It's not like the Suns haven't taken the swing already with Durant and Beal.

At this point, shoving all the chips to the middle of the table doesn't seem like such a reach when he might be the answer if he is healthy.

I know that is a big "if."

 

[Mainstreet]

we were just 9-2 lol - books getting doubled and folks aren't hitting their shots when he passes out of it - our offense has understandably fallen off without kd and beal in the line up - imagine that

i also happen to notice this thing called defense - which we're starting to get better at - i was a nurk guy but now im a bud guy - meaning what have you done for us lately and im specifically talking about the last 15 minutes

you've seen what this team can do - right off the back too - so im not going to argue about who should stay or go - far as i can tell nobody's going anywhere - we're phx fans so i understand but we're clearly better than last year and don't know what we have yet + we're developing two rookies!

im still good

The Suns need a dose of nasty, preferably at the 4/5.