Knicks @ Suns Wednesday game thread, November 20th, 2024

[Yuma]

Royce plays great with the big 3 but is awful without them. Plain and simple.

That's true with everyone. KD lets Book play without the double teams. Having KD and Book on the floor together let's Beal play more open in space, and so on. Having KD out makes this team a whole different beast.

 

[Chaplin]

Well yeah, because he is just a spot up shooter.

He's a better defender when playing with them as well.

 

[Yuma]

He's a better defender when playing with them as well.

That's because:

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[Yuma]

KD Suns leader in shot blocking. Really, our best rim protector.

 

[Mainstreet]

Suns cut the Knicks lead to 81-60.

 

[Chaplin]

That's because:

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Defense isn't just blocks. But whatever.

 

[Yuma]

Defense isn't just blocks. But whatever.

I was pointing out without KD there's no rim protector. There's a reason this last 6 games teams are getting layups all game long against us. It's easier to play defense if you have a rim protector behind you.

 

[BirdGangThing]

oneale³³³³³

 

[BirdGangThing]

brunsons actually missing

dunn³

 

[Yuma]

I love Dunn keeps trying.

 

[Mainstreet]

Suns cut Knicks lead to eleven, 88-77.

 

[Yuma]

Dunn slowing them down by dogging Brunson bringing it up. I am amazed Brunson wasn't able to get Dunn a cheap foul. Great discipline by Dunn.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Can’t stand this brand of NBA basketball… Nothing more than launch as many 3’s as possible. So NOT entertaining.

 

[BirdGangThing]

dunn really starting to frustrate brunson now - who was average 25 points a half against the suns

 

[Hoop Head]

I was pointing out without KD there's no rim protector. There's a reason this last 6 games teams are getting layups all game long against us. It's easier to play defense if you have a rim protector behind you.

Rim protection is more than shot blocking. Wade and MJ averaged about 1 block a game while no one would consider either rim protectors. Wemby doesn't need blocks to be a rim protector either. He's a deterrent. Changing shots is often more effective than blocking them because it allows a clean rebound vs ending up right back in the original shooters hands.

 

[Mainstreet]

Allen is 1-8 from the field.

 

[Mainstreet]

Timeout.

Suns trail 99-79.

 

[Yuma]

Rim protection is more than shot blocking. Wade and MJ averaged about 1 block a game while no one would consider either rim protectors. Wemby doesn't need blocks to be a rim protector either. He's a deterrent. Changing shots is often more effective than blocking them because it allows a clean rebound vs ending up right back in the original shooters hands.

True. Let me rephrase it. KD is our best interior defender AND our best shot blocker, and arguably the best defender, PERIOD. Freaking A, I KNOW being a good defender is more than just blocking shots. Sheez. I know you guys are pissed at the Suns. Don't take it out on me. FUDGE!

 

[BirdGangThing]

that's a wrap - we made our usual little mini push in the third quarter - then the focus disappeared again

 

[Hoop Head]

True. Let me rephrase it. KD is our best interior defender AND our best shot blocker, and arguably the best defender, PERIOD. Freaking A, I KNOW being a good defender is more than just blocking shots. Sheez. I know you guys are pissed at the Suns. Don't take it out on me. FUDGE!

I disagree KD is our best defender but I was more adding my 2 cents than trying to discredit your take. In fairness your take wasn't that clear initially. Not looking to argue either way as I'm not pissed. If this Suns team made me pissed then I'd be happy they made me feel something other than disappointment.

 

[BirdGangThing]

might as well put d-lee and bol bol in

 

[Mainstreet]

End of 3rd quarter:

Knicks 110 - Suns 93

 

[mjb21aztd]

Suns gonna fall to 8th place if they continue this awful basketball

Just no heart energy at all ((((

 

[Mainstreet]

might as well put d-lee and bol bol in

I was thinking about bringing the G-League team up.

 

[mjb21aztd]

This team isnt winnin a title im afraid 1 bad inj in the poffs will be like this goddd awfulll stretch of gms