Charmin Marvin Harrison Jr Thread

[AZCB34]

MHJ is good at football

MHJ doesn’t need football and it shows.

 

[602 Native]

It's both. I mean how many NFL analysts have to call out our WR room and say we need to get someone who can get open on 3rd down before we accept that we don't have guys running wide open all over the field that Kyler isn't seeing?

He's played like Poo the last few weeks, the one dumb play we lucked out on against NE ruined that performance for me too.

But at a certain point I don't think Baldy, Kimes, the QB gurus etc are all wrong when they're saying Marv isn't getting open and he isn't catching enough contested catches. And for the record neither is any of the other WR's, Wilson is probably the best at the contested catches of the room.

They run different routes but Wilson has 6 less catches than Marv, and 36 less targets

36 fewer targets and only 6 fewer catches is super concerning

 

[GatorAZ]

Wait now we're pretending he wasn't hyped as the best WR to come in since those 2? That he wasn't the hottest rookie name in every fantasy draft? That people on tv who advise on fantasy drafts weren't telling everyone to take MHJ higher than you think you need to because he's going to be a star and Wr1 on our offense?

I like the kid, and not it's not his fault he was overrated, but the fact is he's not as good as we were told he'd be.

At the end of the day it’s still college so nobody is a sure thing. Ryan Day gets a lot of crap as a HC but since Urban Meyer hired him as OC in 2017 they’ve been a WR factory so they all look amazing in college.

 

[D-Dogg]

MHJ is good at football

MHJ doesn’t need football and it shows.

Yikes. The accuracy here.

 

[MrYeahBut]

I didn't have the old "skillet hands" pic on my phone and I was to lazy to get up and go look on my computer, so this all I got...
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[MrYeahBut]

I mean, how can you look at the tape of those 2 throws in overtime and say to yourself "all I need is a wide receiver coach"? I'd shoot myself. I couldn't look at my team mates.

 

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[MrYeahBut]

btw, I'm bitter.

Carry on

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

I didn't have the old "skillet hands" pic on my phone and I was to lazy to get up and go look on my computer, so this all I got...
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Bryant Johnson’s play was far superior to MHJ’s. He had some drops, but never had a season like this. And he had to share targets with Q and then Q as well as Fitzgerald.

 

[Russ Smith]

I mean, how can you look at the tape of those 2 throws in overtime and say to yourself "all I need is a wide receiver coach"? I'd shoot myself. I couldn't look at my team mates.

that's my thing and I get the people posting here saying well the timing throws are also on Kyler he's late on timing etc. I just posted this in the Kyler thread too.

How many times do we have to have an NFL analyst, who talks to OUR coaches, during the week before our game. And in the case of Schlereth has worked SEVERAL of our games this year, tell us on live tv that Marv isn't running the routes correctly, before we start believing it? He doesn't come back, he doesn't run them precisely. They said today during the telecast he's such a long strider they've had to work with him on his routes because he has a tendency to run the route incorrectly. Earlier in the year it was Frank Sanders on his show saying he "rounds off his routes" because he got away with it in college, you can't do that in the NFL you're going to cause interceptions if you do.

It's just weird for lack of a better word that 15 games into the season he still hasn't figured out NFL CB's don't just give up, they are going to come back and make a play on the ball even if it's in your hands.

Even the ball in the endzone today Kyler threw a "moon ball" that led Marv to the right corner of the endzone where there was no defender. It's not perfect, it's not the throw Young made for a TD for example, but he did what you teach a QB to do, if your guy can't catch it, nobody can. ANd Marv got completely turned around like Jose Canseco trying to track a fly ball. I mean the defender is in front to the left, ANY NFL WR is going to assume the QB will throw the ball to my right, but he didn't adjust until it was too late the ball fell incomplete. the corpse of AJ Green caught throws like that multiple times in his couple of years here because he understood where the QB was going to put the ball, Marv doesn't

 

[Russ Smith]

Bryant Johnson’s play was far superior to MHJ’s. He had some drops, but never had a season like this. And he had to share targets with Q and then Q as well as Fitzgerald.

Marv is better than Bryant Johnson, and will be much better. But man the stuff he hasn't figured out yet is all the stuff we were told he wouldn't need to learn

 

[Russ Smith]

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[Russ Smith]

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[HairZach]

We just need to pretend he doesn't exist. That the pick did not happen, we did not have #4 in the last draft, just #27. Call it Bob if you really need to refer to it.

We will get a WR1 in free agency and that will spark an offense that was undermanned at WR this year. It was incredibly irresponsible of Monti to go into the season with just Wilson, Dortch and Jones at WR.

For people saying that Bob's 1st season reminds them of Fitzgerald's, it reminds me a lot more of Jerry Jeudy's.

 

[Russ Smith]

Not to pile on but there's a new bunch of these. Including a mic'ed up Christian Gonzalez where his coach is telling him he can't beat you, you own him. And the one he stripped out on the sideline CG says "he came out of the huddle and spit on his gloves so I knew the ball was coming to him. He gave me a move I didn't expect but then didn't finish so I just knocked it out."

I assume by finish he means Marv didn't use his body to prevent CG from coming back in to knock the ball out

 

[Russ Smith]

We just need to pretend he doesn't exist. That the pick did not happen, we did not have #4 in the last draft, just #27. Call it Bob if you really need to refer to it.

We will get a WR1 in free agency and that will spark an offense that was undermanned at WR this year. It was incredibly irresponsible of Monti to go into the season with just Wilson, Dortch and Jones at WR.

I think it's much more likely to find a WR2 and hope Bob becomes a real 1 than find a 1 in FA. I just hope whoever the QB is next year that they have a much better wr room to throw to.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

I’m just so disgusted with everybody in the organization right now. Even Conner.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I’m just so disgusted with everybody in the organization right now. Even Conner.

Lol… WHAT? Conner is the only legitimate warrior/consistent producer on this team.

 

[Russ Smith]

I’m just so disgusted with everybody in the organization right now. Even Conner.

Nah James Conner has earned mad respect from me. You could see the knee twist when he went down that dude was in pain

 

[iLLmatiC]

that's my thing and I get the people posting here saying well the timing throws are also on Kyler he's late on timing etc. I just posted this in the Kyler thread too.

How many times do we have to have an NFL analyst, who talks to OUR coaches, during the week before our game. And in the case of Schlereth has worked SEVERAL of our games this year, tell us on live tv that Marv isn't running the routes correctly, before we start believing it? He doesn't come back, he doesn't run them precisely. They said today during the telecast he's such a long strider they've had to work with him on his routes because he has a tendency to run the route incorrectly. Earlier in the year it was Frank Sanders on his show saying he "rounds off his routes" because he got away with it in college, you can't do that in the NFL you're going to cause interceptions if you do.

It's just weird for lack of a better word that 15 games into the season he still hasn't figured out NFL CB's don't just give up, they are going to come back and make a play on the ball even if it's in your hands.

Even the ball in the endzone today Kyler threw a "moon ball" that led Marv to the right corner of the endzone where there was no defender. It's not perfect, it's not the throw Young made for a TD for example, but he did what you teach a QB to do, if your guy can't catch it, nobody can. ANd Marv got completely turned around like Jose Canseco trying to track a fly ball. I mean the defender is in front to the left, ANY NFL WR is going to assume the QB will throw the ball to my right, but he didn't adjust until it was too late the ball fell incomplete. the corpse of AJ Green caught throws like that multiple times in his couple of years here because he understood where the QB was going to put the ball, Marv doesn't

He didn’t do the combine so he could instead prepare his mind and body for the NFL season.

 

[iLLmatiC]

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That’s debatable. Our tight end ain’t no slouch.

 

[Russ Smith]

That’s debatable. Our tight end ain’t no slouch.

She loves Trey. She just means we don't have a true #1 X WR and that's why she said you just have a bunch of 2's and 3's. It's why McBride has so many catches

 

[iLLmatiC]

She loves Trey. She just means we don't have a true #1 X WR and that's why she said you just have a bunch of 2's and 3's. It's why McBride has so many catches

What’s the point of her comment though? That mhj doesn’t have anyone to distract the defense off him?

 

[Russ Smith]

What’s the point of her comment though? That mhj doesn’t have anyone to distract the defense off him?

Well I mean teams aren't taking their #1 CB off Marv to cover Trey and they're not playing a safety over the top of him either. I love Trey but what a guy like Jefferson does is make everyone else on the team better because he's got gravity like Steph Curry. They have to put their best CB on him, they have a safety over the top etc. So everyone elses job is easier. Marv isn't good enough to do that for his team yet, and he doesn't have anybody to do it for him.

she mentioned Addison, he had 10TD's as a rookie, 8 this year, similar catch and yards stats to Marv, but much higher catch to target % and much better efficiency. 1 year older second year guy but has a totally different situation because he plays with Jefferson

 

[Dayman]

Marvin is fifth among rookies in receiving yards, with Odunze only 25 yards behind him. This isn't the '90s. Rookies can learn their positions quickly. Well, the good ones at least.