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  1. Cheesebeef

    Kyler Murray Debate Thread

    Hehe…
  2. Cheesebeef

    Suns 2024-2025 Season Discussions

    I dig this attitude
  3. Cheesebeef

    LA Chargers @ Arizona Cardinals Pre Game Thread. 10/14/24-10/20/24

    You can get ESPN+ on Disney Pkus?
  4. Cheesebeef

    Kyler Murray Appreciation Thread

    Plenty of games… 3 out of 8. You and I have very different ideas of success. Also, what good is it if your QB can only be successful against bad teams? And again, if we don’t have success in the meaningless part of the schedule where we’re already out of contention, will you change your tune?
  5. Cheesebeef

    Suns 2024-2025 Season Discussions

    Yeah… even if the offense comes together and we’re pretty healthy, we’re a solid Big away from being able to really matchup with Minnesota or OKC. Dallas is more of a toss-up for me if the O is running on all cylinders.
  6. Cheesebeef

    Kyler Murray Appreciation Thread

    And what will you say if the above doesn’t happen? The offense is barely better than the Dobbs led offense.
  7. Cheesebeef

    Kyler Murray Appreciation Thread

    Well, yeah. They want to get better. But Allen still has them at 4-2 without great weapons around him to this point. Sorry. Just can’t agree with this. Lamar has won two MVPs with similar talent. Mahommes had next to nothing on offense most of last year and won a Super Bowl.
  8. Cheesebeef

    Suns 2024-2025 Season Discussions

    We got pretty lucky with KD last year though. Wouldn’t surprise me to see him fall back to only about 55-60 games this season. But they’re definitely better on paper.
  9. Cheesebeef

    Suns 2024-2025 Season Discussions

    Yeah… if he is a good rotation player, that plugs a glaring hole this team has. And it probably allows them to use Allen/Royce and picks to try and get another serviceable big at some point.
  10. Cheesebeef

    Suns 2024-2025 Season Discussions

    Huh? The convo was about how good Beal would be off the bench. That’s what his role should be because it’s a waste for him to just be on the corner and be a mid-defender at best. And Allen should be nowhere near the starting lineup. He’s a good bench player and having a backcourt of him and...
  11. Cheesebeef

    Kyler Murray Appreciation Thread

    Josh Allen is there also. Also, who’s the number 1 in GB? This year or last when Love has been good to great?
  12. Cheesebeef

    Kyler Murray Appreciation Thread

    Every time Lamar gets hurt or wasn’t a starter, like at the beginning of his rookie season, the offense either started bad in his rookie season or totally cratered later in his career with the team going in the tank. Every time he plays the offense is good to great. He lifts the talent around...
  13. Cheesebeef

    Kyler Murray Appreciation Thread

    I was dead wrong there. Dude is just a completely different animal.
  14. Cheesebeef

    Kyler Murray Appreciation Thread

    Yeah… this is the Kyler Conundrum. His wheels are legit great, but if we can’t maximize them for fear of injury, do they matter enough to overcome some of his shortcomings as a passer? A guy like Lamar showed his wheels could overcompensate for his flaws as a passer the second he stepped on the...
  15. Cheesebeef

    The Kyler Murray is mediocre thread

    You just summed up what I’ve been thinking about Kyler since he stopped being a major running asset like he was his first two years in the league where he rushed for over 1300 yards. Since then, he’s rushed for around 440 yards per season. That’s just not special enough output if he’s also...
  16. Cheesebeef

    Kyler Murray Appreciation Thread

    And yet every time Lamar is out, despite the “top tier” offensive line and top 3 round receiving weapons that offense SUCKS and the entire team completely goes in the tank. He’s the straw that stirs the drink. Anyone who can’t see that isn’t paying attention . Yes… it was Lamar’s fault his...
  17. Cheesebeef

    Suns 2024-2025 Season Discussions

    If Beal’s healthy, he demands playing time over Grayson. That dude is never shooting the rock like that again. He’s a good shooter… 40% from three, but last year was an all time season. It wasn’t the norm nor should we expect it to be.
  18. Cheesebeef

    Kyler Murray Appreciation Thread

    Lamar had already won TWO MVPS without Henry and Flowers blossoming into a superstar WR… because he’s had two good back to back games. And you say he took over a 9-7 team… but you’re kinda leaving out the crucial detail that during the season Lamar took over, that team was a floundering 4-5 and...
  19. Cheesebeef

    Kyler Murray Appreciation Thread

    He’s an okay number 1, on pace for 1100 yards and 3 TDs. Hardly a superstar 1 that apparently all great QBs need. And that’s the PEAK of good WRs that Lamar has had. He’s been a superstar MVP level player most of his career with nothing more than a great TE, his own wheels and middling talent...
  20. Cheesebeef

    Bilal Nichols to IR

    I’m sorry but his D-Line FAs sucked when healthy, and considering how mediocre to bad most of his draft picks are, there’s no reason to believe Robinson would be any better.
  21. Cheesebeef

    2024 Twitter Thread (News of the Cards)

    First, did they ever actually say that? Second, what’s considered “competitive” to this franchise probably isn’t considered “competitive” ion the open market, considering they haven’t gone after anyone like that and we’ve seen them let GM candidates get away because they weren’t competitive...
  22. Cheesebeef

    2024 Twitter Thread (News of the Cards)

    Especially in years where it’s very apparent you’re not trying to win. That is the time when you can basically try out young Kickers to see if you can find someone to depend on for the future. Which isn’t said in hindsight… that was my opinion at the time.
  23. Cheesebeef

    2024 Twitter Thread (News of the Cards)

    Guys… the answer to this is probably much more simple than he hated losing, followed his coach, loves snowboarding, etc etc. Look at how much money we’ve spent on FA in two off-seasons, then look at the contract he got. We haven’t signed anyone to anything CLOSE to what he got in FA. The truth...
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