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    Suns updates and discussion for the 2023-24 season

    No twitter to read those links, but agree here. Book's PG vision and passing ability is merely average, way below Harden's level, not even SGA's level. The best Suns can do is to about equally distribute the ball handler role to Book, Beal, Gordon, and KD, and make multiple playsets to help them...
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    Suns hire Frank Vogel as next head coach

    Actually, I like coach Vogel's actions the last couple games. They are not all perfect but he seems to adapt to the situations better. In this game, Book stopped dominating the ball from the beginning of possessions, and he stuck to Bol to end the game. He may have pulled Okogie too early though...
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    Clippers @ Suns Wednesday game thread 1-3-2024

    Actually, Bol did get stolen the ball once trying to dribble the ball, a minor error though just like the one 3pt Okogie should have taken but did not.
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    Clippers @ Suns Wednesday game thread 1-3-2024

    Yet, JO has been having the higher +/- for a couple of games already. He is not a reliable 3pt shooter but can facilitate in a proper off. system. He should have shot that 3pt instead of driving into GP for TO, because we'd still have chance for OR, but bad decision occurs, his overall effect on...
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    Clippers @ Suns Wednesday game thread 1-3-2024

    I'm actually not too disappointed by the expected loss. We should now know our problems better and try to prepare better. On O, it's obvious that Booker should not be the designated "PG" with too much ball handling duty. Good team figured him out and he cannot deal with it properly while wasting...
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    Clippers @ Suns Wednesday game thread 1-3-2024

    Yeah, Booker's easily figured out as the PG by good teams and he should more focus on playing SG, let Beal and EG ininiate the offense more. In the long run, we need more cuts and screens to accomplement our SG-turned-PG plays. And, without defense like Okogie's, it's hard to win vs top teams.
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    Clippers @ Suns Wednesday game thread 1-3-2024

    We should play Book more off ball, and let Gordon, Beal initiate more, particularly when it's clear Book got figured out by the other team.
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    Clippers @ Suns Wednesday game thread 1-3-2024

    Clippers figured Book's "PG" moves fully out, Gordon made surprise move successfully.
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    Trail Blazers @ Suns Monday game thread 1-1-2024

    Wish we had a mixture of Beal and Book at handling the ball and at drives. Beal is more forceful but often get into too many collapsing defenders and TOs. Book ends up with jump shots most of the time. It's up to the coaches to find suiting plays. Bol Bol surprised everybody in this game, though...
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    Trail Blazers @ Suns Monday game thread 1-1-2024

    He keeps shooting jumpshots too much when the touch isn't there. But stars like him and Beal often need that, and they can get hot anytime.
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    Trail Blazers @ Suns Monday game thread 1-1-2024

    Beal is a better "PG" than Booker, his drives are more crisp and create better space. And Okogie saved the 1st half for us with his defense. Bol improved a lot, no longer lost on both sides.
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    Trail Blazers @ Suns Monday game thread 1-1-2024

    We see how disruptive Okogie can be on D that feeds to fastbreaks. Bol can play by not jumping into air. LOL
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    Trail Blazers @ Suns Monday game thread 1-1-2024

    Really bad decision makings. Why let KBD, Azu make so many decisions!
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    Magic @ Suns Sunday game thread 12-31-2023

    pathetic defense, if not for so many TOs by Magics... Book missed 3-4 jumpers late 3rd, just kinda forcing when not in rhythm. Saved by Beal's moves.
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    Magic @ Suns Sunday game thread 12-31-2023

    Nurk is good on offense but has defensive lapses. Carter has the 3pt touch in this game, yet Nurk and our D hasn't paid enough attention. If we ever learn to play proper team defense consistently, the offense with big-3 comes easy.
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    What can (or should) be done to fix the team this season?

    The advantage of a fast pace is not letting Book hold the ball too long that result both in lethargic teammates and lack of time for alternative plays when the initial one failed to work. So, without a true PG, our substitue ballhandlers shall be instructed to make quick decisions with quick...
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    Hornets @ Suns Friday game thread 12-29-2023

    I remember that game. Beal was shooting like 2/15 before the 4th and then torn our paint apart in the 4th.
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    Suns updates and discussion for the 2023-24 season

    Just watched Pacers-Knicks game. Pacers defended Brunson a lot better than we did, even with McConnell on him. The recipe is simple, not buy the fakes and stay on the ground keeping the shadow on him. And on offense, Pacers move really well to get open looks. We are on the right track to abandon...
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    Hornets @ Suns Friday game thread 12-29-2023

    Nurk had one out-of-bound ball saved right into other team's player for easy layup, AND one side pass to Allen without seeing Allen was already gone. In general, we just make a lot of mechanical passes without proper assessing the situation that lead to TOs.
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    Hornets @ Suns Friday game thread 12-29-2023

    Our offense is working now. We move the ball and the ball handler make decisions a lot quicker now. Beal and Saben drives into the paint are more forceful than others that resulted in open shots overall, despite both not scoring themselves much. Book back to not holding the ball too long and...
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    Hornets @ Suns Friday game thread 12-29-2023

    Nurk was the culprit in both scenarios. Our game focus is not always there. Allen and Metu relaxed a bit on rotation and boom they hit the 3s. At least Vogel called timely TOs to sub out Metu and instruct Allen to pressure Rozier closer. But at least the coaches are aware of those problems and...
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    What can (or should) be done to fix the team this season?

    In the Knicks game Beal got nice screens to catch and shoot with success, but got unfortunate injuries there. We need to have more of the same for all of our shooter including KD, Book, Gordon and Allen when hot. In those sets, Okogie can be useful.
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    Suns @ Rockets Wednesday game thread 12-27-2023

    Not excuse, but seeing improvement where it was and existing problems for later corrections.
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    Suns @ Rockets Wednesday game thread 12-27-2023

    Saben is ultra quick and strong for his size, his drives have good odds to tear up the paint defense and he finishes well around basket. In no gabbage playing time, he just needs to control it more and choose wisely when to do the layup.
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    Suns @ Rockets Wednesday game thread 12-27-2023

    Some of them were from being not prepared for aggressive poking from behind moves, lack of situation awareness. Some were too hard passes that should have been softer lobs or touch passes for open guys, need refinement there with more reps. At least we ain't turn over due to double teaming KD...

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