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    2024-2025 Around the NBA Thread

    Suns only get aggressive when other team is driving to the hoop. And that's an automatic foul. But apparently, a defender can grab, push, elbow and otherwise torture an opponent near 3 point line with immunity.
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    2024-2025 Around the NBA Thread

    It has morphed! And swarming the guy with the ball and fouling repeatably is now accepted practice. I distinctly remember a sequence in Grizz game where defender clung to KD bringing the ball up court. Fouling many, many times, finally at end of it, KD (thru frustration) gives a slight push...
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    Suns @ Grizzlies Tuesday game thread 2-25-2025

    I absolutely 100% knew Suns would lose the game when Grayson missed one of his free throws. It completely took the pressure off the Grizzlies.
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    Suns @ Grizzlies Tuesday game thread 2-25-2025

    truer words never spoken! Only hope is a massive haul for KD this Summer. That is truly the ONLY hope. Can Beal be bought out by Mr. Moneybags, for what, $100 million or is it $150 million?
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    Suns @ Bulls - Saturday Game Thread (02-22-2025)

    Anyone else cringe when Plumlee scrambles to get a loose ball that is within his grasp but up for grabs? Has he every once secured one? Hands of bricks. Having said that, he had a reasonably good game.
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    Suns @ Spurs Thursday game thread 2-20-2025 (After All-Star Break)

    This will be unpopular, but trade KD and Book and ideally get 4 quality young tall players and a center plus picks in return that can play defense at a high level. I see this as the only true solution. The league has changed. The Suns need to change with it. Trotting out unathletic short guys...
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    Suns @ Spurs Thursday game thread 2-20-2025 (After All-Star Break)

    Time to donate it to charity?
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    Suns @ Spurs Thursday game thread 2-20-2025 (After All-Star Break)

    Super hard to watch. Any team with athletic wings and three point shooters decimates this Suns team. Doesn’t even matter what their previous W-L record might be. Plumlee and Book and Tyus were unwatchable. Where is Dunn? He could have helped massively!
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    Suns @ Spurs Thursday game thread 2-20-2025 (After All-Star Break)

    Book shouldn’t even sniff an all-star slot.
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    Suns @ Spurs Thursday game thread 2-20-2025 (After All-Star Break)

    Maybe we should tank and get an awesome first round pick! ....oh wait.
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    Suns @ Rockets Wednesday game thread 2-12-2025

    I'm with you. I'd like to see Bol Bol get massive run. He has tons of warts but you can't teach size. And a good shooter. He could be a truly gifted blocker with just a little more anticipation. I can't stand when Bol Bol or any of Suns shoot a sideline 3, then just watch it and make zero...
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    Grizzlies @ Suns Tuesday game thread 2-11-2025

    And tonight Suns have Houston at Houston on a b2b with a tired Book & KD. What could possibly go wrong?
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    Grizzlies @ Suns Tuesday game thread 2-11-2025

    I predict Suns lose next two games by a combined 50 points. Porous interior defense strikes again! Is there a worse team in the league than Suns at interior defense?
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    But seriously, folks.

    So true. If Beal didn’t have the no trade clause, you could turn he and KD into possibly 3 good young players and some future picks. You’d have a fighting chance of creating a future team. Book is great, but near useless at the end of most games. I’d be fine with getting rid of any or all of the...
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    Suns 2024-2025 Season Discussions

    Very astute observations! Some kind of gauntlet was dropped. It feels like this is the last straw before KD is traded. If they can get to some reasonable play level with these tweaks, they will keep him.
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    Suns @ 76ers Monday game thread 1-6-2025

    I’ve been watching Suns since 89. There was always either a great team to watch or the hope of youngsters getting better. This product is predictable and awful to watch. This team was built for some era that doesn’t exist anymore.
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    Where do we go from here?

    The sad part is that the Suns actually had a pretty successful off-season and incredible draft considering their picks. But it’s all predicated on 2 out of 3 of our superstars stepping up. And we are only getting one and he’s injured half the time. Although we needed a true point guard, that was...
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    Suns @ Pelicans Thursday game thread, December 5th, 2024

    Beal with 3 stupid turnovers in a row
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    Magic @ Suns Monday game thread, November 18th, 2024

    A lot of teams that have just beaten Suns were down key players as well. Yet virtually all of these teams played well and looked cohesive. Suns without Beal & KD look like a High School team at times to me. Get a steal, dribble it off your foot. Throw a pass over mid court stripe and lose...
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    Magic @ Suns Monday game thread, November 18th, 2024

    I admire your optimism, but at present, I’m not sure there is a team in the league that the Suns could for sure beat.
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    Suns @ Clippers Thursday game thread, October 31st, 2024

    so very true. Am I alone in wondering if Beal out for some games is kind of a good thing? His absence automatically makes us larger and better defensively. I mean, he's had a good shooting season so far, and he'll be a godsend if Booker misses games, but.... I never liked that signing at all...
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    Ryan Dunn - the Real Deal or Beginner's Luck?

    Dunn actually helped Westbrook up off the floor!
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    Suns @ Nuggets Sunday game thread, October 13th, 2024: Preseason

    agreed. Poor Scouting Philosophy. If you plan or get lucky enough to nab a top 5 pick, you CANNOT go strictly on potential. You must get a sure thing that can produce and have at least even odds of eventually becoming part of your starting five. Maybe you endured a whole season of tanking. You...
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    Suns @ Nuggets Sunday game thread, October 13th, 2024: Preseason

    I see your point, but in my mind, if you are selected top 5 in the draft, your floor should be a solid bench player, not out of the league. That's some serious lack of doing your homework on draft selection to me. If nothing else, you need high IQ players with at least one elite skill. Suns have...
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    Suns @ Nuggets Sunday game thread, October 13th, 2024: Preseason

    Maybe not quite peak Kawhi, but Dunn could certainly be very special. It's sooo unusual for Suns to find a diamond it the rough in any part of the NBA draft, much less late first round. Hell, this guy is way better then all those flame-outs we had with top five pick's in the past! The beauty of...

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