2010 MLB trading deadline thread

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With the trading deadline approaching, I thought I would start a thread regarding trades and rumors. There will be some teams that will be busy, including the Diamondbacks. It will be interesting to see if Haren gets traded and if so, how much talent they get in return.
 
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I was just reading Detroit is interested in Drew and Haren. The Cardinals are also interested in Haren. I just hope the Diamondbacks get some solid players in return if these trades happen.
 

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I was just reading Detroit is interested in Drew and Haren. The Cardinals are also interested in Haren. I just hope the Diamondbacks get some solid players in return if these trades happen.


Drew won't net us much... Haren might, if there are multiple teams making a run for him.
We've got to find a way to move Reynolds as well... I love the guy, but with him and Upton constantly dueling it out for new K records, one has to go and it ain't gonna be Upton...
 

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No need to trade Haren - his contract is reasonable.

Trade Drew, and LaRouche, and Snyder.
 

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Here is minorleaguebaseball.com's Detroit Top 20 prospects, I bolded the guys we should be targeting:


1) Casey Crosby, LHP, Grade B+: Has some of the best southpaw stuff in the minors and seems fully recovered from Tommy John. Further command refinements in 2010 would move him into the A- and maybe a pure A category.
2) Jacob Turner, RHP, Grade B+: Outstanding high school pitcher, but I want to see some pro numbers before giving him a higher grade. Even a B+ is aggressive in my grading scheme, but I like him a lot. Like Crosby, he has A-/A potential if all goes well.
3) Austin Jackson, OF, Grade B: I like him more than the numbers say I should.
4) Alex Avila, C, Grade B: Won't slug .590 in a full season, but I expect him to have a long and solid career. I was thinking B+ earlier but am backing off that now. . .a B is still a strong grade remember.
5) Dan Schlereth, LHP, Grade B: Excellent relief prospect, needs to sharpen command but was rushed by Arizona.
6) Scott Sizemore, 2B, Grade B: Like Avila, I don't think he's going to be a star, but he should be a solid regular, will be a Rookie of the Year candidate assuming he's healthy in spring training.
7) Ryan Strieby, 1B-OF, Grade B-: Love the power bat, but I don't think he'll repeat the .303 average and .427 OBP. Can he really handle left field?
8) Andy Oliver, LHP, Grade B-: We need to see some professional data aside from the Arizona Fall League, but he seems like the kind of pitcher who could be more effective in the pros than in college. Big upside arm.
9) Casper Wells, OF, Grade C+: Scouts are starting to warm to him. He's produced in Double-A and in the Arizona Fall League, but there will always be skeptics until he hits in the Show. Personally I like the guy.
10) Wilkin Ramirez, OF, Grade C+: Hard to grade...excellent tools are still here, but performance remains spotty with no clear indication that will change.
11) Daniel Fields, SS, Grade C+: Excellent tools with local Detroit ties, but how raw is he and where does he fit with the glove? Need pro data before ranking higher.
12) Cody Satterwhite, RHP, Grade C+: Part of large collection of potential bullpen arms that could be ready soon.
13) Robbie Weinhardt, RHP, Grade C+: Another relief arm who could help quickly.
14) Brayan Villareal, RHP, Grade C+: Sleeper prospect, could rank as high as 10th depending on what you want to emphasize. Need some higher level data but he was great at West Michigan.
15) Alfredo Figaro, RHP, Grade C: Looks more like a reliever to me than a starter. They have a lot of good material for a pen here.
16) Luis Marte, RHP, Grade C: Not as effective in Double-A as some expected, but live arm will get him plenty of chances.
17) Gustavo Nunez, SS, Grade C: hit .315 with 45 steals in the Midwest League, but the scouting reports I have emphasize his rawness.
18) Melvin Mercedes, RHP, Grade C: Another hard-throwing relief arm, but needs to show he can throw strikes.
19) Ramon Lebron, RHP, Grade C: Another high-ceiling arm from rookie ball with command issues.
20) Cale Iorg, SS, Grade C: Frankly I think this is generous. I don't think he'll ever hit enough to be a regular, but the glove and major league bloodlines will get him to the majors.
 

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Drew won't net us much... Haren might, if there are multiple teams making a run for him.
We've got to find a way to move Reynolds as well... I love the guy, but with him and Upton constantly dueling it out for new K records, one has to go and it ain't gonna be Upton...

Actually analysts like Rosenthal believe Drew should net us a top of the rotation SP and a couple of more prospects in a package. The guy is a left handed bat, that might not win a batting title or knock in 25 HR's but he plays above average defense, his .270 average isn't bad and he will net you a bunch of doubles and triples and get you around 70 RBI's. BOS has been interested for a couple of years now and has the prospects to deal and with Pedroia's injury are in need of a replacement. Plus Drew is only 27 years old so he isn't on the downside of his career. Haren is now the most available SP left on the market, with Lee off the market, Haren is younger than Oswalt and is owed less money but the key point is that Oswalt must waive his no trade clause to go to a new team Haren doesn't. I would say Haren should net us at least 3 top prospects in any package.
 

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Actually analysts like Rosenthal believe Drew should net us a top of the rotation SP and a couple of more prospects in a package. The guy is a left handed bat, that might not win a batting title or knock in 25 HR's but he plays above average defense, his .270 average isn't bad and he will net you a bunch of doubles and triples and get you around 70 RBI's. BOS has been interested for a couple of years now and has the prospects to deal and with Pedroia's injury are in need of a replacement. Plus Drew is only 27 years old so he isn't on the downside of his career. Haren is now the most available SP left on the market, with Lee off the market, Haren is younger than Oswalt and is owed less money but the key point is that Oswalt must waive his no trade clause to go to a new team Haren doesn't. I would say Haren should net us at least 3 top prospects in any package.

Sorry... just don't see it at all. I like Drew, a lot. But, a team would have to be EXTREMELY stupid, or VERY desperate to give up a "top of the rotation SP" for Drew. Unless you mean a #4 or #5 is "top of the rotation"...
 

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Sorry... just don't see it at all. I like Drew, a lot. But, a team would have to be EXTREMELY stupid, or VERY desperate to give up a "top of the rotation SP" for Drew. Unless you mean a #4 or #5 is "top of the rotation"...

Hey I'm just going by what Rosenthal said. I guess maybe your focusing on the lack on power but his numbers stack up pretty well to other shortstops. Other than Haren, I would bet Drew is probably garnering the most interest from other teams.
 

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Well the gossip I've heard is that ownership is holding the reins tight on our interim GM and no big deals will be made this mid-season. That means no Haren IMO, although I doubt we could get proper replacement value in a trade with Haren.
 

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Screw the scout who says they are starting to get realistic, teams overpay for SP at the trade deadline, that is when pitching value is at its highest. Haren is reasonably priced and had he some run support and a competent bullpen his record would be a lot better. ARZ better not give him away to shed payroll, Webb and his $8M and Byrnes' $10M come off the books this offseason. No need to start a fire sale, DiPoto needs to get clear cut wins on any deal for Haren and Jackson or we should just keep them. Minimum asking price for Haren should be 3 premium, ML ready prospects. There are too many teams that need SP, someone will get desperate especially with only Oswalt as a potential difference maker along with Haren. Qualls on the other hand can be given away for a bunch of bats for all I care.
 
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Screw the scout who says they are starting to get realistic, teams overpay for SP at the trade deadline, that is when pitching value is at its highest. Haren is reasonably priced and had he some run support and a competent bullpen his record would be a lot better. ARZ better not give him away to shed payroll, Webb and his $8M and Byrnes' $10M come off the books this offseason. No need to start a fire sale, DiPoto needs to get clear cut wins on any deal for Haren and Jackson or we should just keep them. Minimum asking price for Haren should be 3 premium, ML ready prospects. There are too many teams that need SP, someone will get desperate especially with only Oswalt as a potential difference maker along with Haren. Qualls on the other hand can be given away for a bunch of bats for all I care.

They need to get top return for Haren, or better yet, keep him
 

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Haren now is really the Dbacks ace. Nice contract and an excellent number 1 pitcher for the staff. No reason to trade him.
 

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I can see the White Sox making a run at Haren with Peavy out. Plus, they have traded alot in the past. If the Sox could pick up Haren without having to give up Daniel Hudson or Dayan Viciedo it would be awesome for a Sox fan like myself. I doubt they could do that though. I don't really know your teams needs but the Sox top 5 are:
Hudson- SP that looks to be the real deal.
Viciedo- young power hitter that will end up as a 1B. You guys may not want him as Reynolds, Upton, and Viciedo may strike out 700 times betwen them.
Tyler Flowers-C, another power hitter with strikeout issues.Good prospect though.
Jared Mitchell-OF, 5 tool guy but injured an ankle in the pre-season and is out for the year.
Jordan Danks- CF, great defensively, but needs offensive consistency and needs to make better contact.
Brent Morel-3B, excellent defensively and hit for a high average. Probably needs a little more power for 3B.

The Sox have some lower level minor leaguers that show promise but they are a few years away and the D'backs probably will want guys closer to the MLB level.
 

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I can see the White Sox making a run at Haren with Peavy out. Plus, they have traded alot in the past. If the Sox could pick up Haren without having to give up Daniel Hudson or Dayan Viciedo it would be awesome for a Sox fan like myself. I doubt they could do that though. I don't really know your teams needs but the Sox top 5 are:
Hudson- SP that looks to be the real deal.
Viciedo- young power hitter that will end up as a 1B. You guys may not want him as Reynolds, Upton, and Viciedo may strike out 700 times betwen them.
Tyler Flowers-C, another power hitter with strikeout issues.Good prospect though.
Jared Mitchell-OF, 5 tool guy but injured an ankle in the pre-season and is out for the year.
Jordan Danks- CF, great defensively, but needs offensive consistency and needs to make better contact.
Brent Morel-3B, excellent defensively and hit for a high average. Probably needs a little more power for 3B.

The Sox have some lower level minor leaguers that show promise but they are a few years away and the D'backs probably will want guys closer to the MLB level.
Amen. Closer? Did you say closer? How about throwing in Jenks?
 

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Amen. Closer? Did you say closer? How about throwing in Jenks?
Jenks, Flowers, and another prospect not named Hudson or Viciedo and i'm in.

If the Sox could get Haren without giving up Hudson, they could turn around and deal him for Dunn. :fans:.


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Yankees are apparently the front runner for Haren. I would think Joba Chamberlain would have to be one of the players involved in the talks.
 
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Man that sucks... Why move Haren if you're not going to get top, #1 talent?? His contract isn't a killer.... This is pretty stupid...

I'm sure other teams like the Cardinals will try and match the Yankees offer. The Diamondbacks need to be patient and talk to all the teams before making a decision. They don't need to make a trade this weekend.
 

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From the looks of it Joba name isn't being thrown in, I looked at Ken Rosenthals column and SI's John Heyman and they only mention McAllister who happens to be one of our senior scouting advisors son and Ivan Nova. I don't like Nova, he wasn't mentioned among NY's top prospects prior to this year and could be having a fluke year. Heyman's column mentions our asking price to be 2 SP's and bullpen help which seems to be the A+ package we should be asking for.

What I would ask for from the potential teams:

DET
LHP Casey Crosby
RHP Jacob Turner
LHP Daniel Schlereth
LHP Andy Oliver

NYY
They have nothing I would want, we would have to get Hughes before I start listening, their whole system is garbage. Joba sucks and is going nowhere fast.

PHI
LHP J.A. Happ
RHP Phillip Aumont
OF Dominic Brown

STL
LHP Shelby Miller
LHP Jamie Garcia
C Robert Stock

MIN
RHP Scott Baker
RHP Kyle Gibson
OF Aaron Hicks
 
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