2021-22 Around the NBA Thread

[95pro]

Simmons for LeBron makes sense. The 76ers get a player for a championship run and the Lakers get a young top overall pick with Magic skills (yes, worse shooting better defense).

I wonder if the Lakers would trade LeBron without his consent.

The lakers have no shooters, adding Simmons isn’t going to help them. Also he needs the ball as much as Westbrook.

 

[Phrazbit]

Simmons for LeBron makes sense. The 76ers get a player for a championship run and the Lakers get a young top overall pick with Magic skills (yes, worse shooting better defense).

I wonder if the Lakers would trade LeBron without his consent.

The Sixers would be a gigantic favorite if that happened.

I don't see the gain for the Lakers though. Simmons would be radioactive, no star would have any interest in getting anywhere near him. He needs to rehabilitate his career somewhere on a lower profile franchise.

 

[JCSunsfan]

The lakers have no shooters, adding Simmons isn’t going to help them. Also he needs the ball as much as Westbrook.

What? Why would that matter? The motive for the trade is not to win.

If they trade LeBron, it doesn't matter if they have no shooters. They are blowing it up. They are basically tanking while trying to start putting together a core of younger players with talent.

Winning doesn't matter and Westbrook would be the least of their concerns.

I doubt either team would get anything better for their respective player.

 

[Proximo]

The lakers have no shooters, adding Simmons isn’t going to help them. Also he needs the ball as much as Westbrook.

Lakers are not doing that, and it would not accomplish anything if they did.

there are no quick fixes for that disaster of a roster they have created.

 

[Proximo]

What? Why would that matter? The motive for the trade is not to win.

If they trade LeBron, it doesn't matter if they have no shooters. They are blowing it up. They are basically tanking while trying to start putting together a core of younger players with talent.

Winning doesn't matter and Westbrook would be the least of their concerns.

I doubt either team would get anything better for their respective player.

You would seriously want to rebuild around Simmons, a dude who can’t shoot?

he Is about the last guy I would want to build a franchise around, especially with the attitude he has had The last 6 months.

 

[Proximo]

Why did you guys let DeAnthony Melton go again, just too young or was it because you got CP3? obviously Paul is better but melton has become a stud for the Grizz.

Stupid decision by management. He was clearly a keeper.

 

[Finito]

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Lakers have officially quit. Only lebron ran back

 

[Mainstreet]

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Lakers have officially quit. Only lebron ran back

This would be sad if it weren't the Lakers. Lebron was all alone coming down the court and has to settle for a 3-point shot.

Then he looks around for a foul he never got.

 

[Proximo]

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Lakers have officially quit. Only lebron ran back

This is great. Gotta say I love to see Laker and Laker fan suffering.

 

[AzStevenCal]

This is great. Gotta say I love to see Laker and Laker fan suffering.

Not me, I'm all about peace and love (but screw the lakers).

 

[Russ Smith]

I think they preferred Carter over him, at the time Carter was a much better outside shooter and defender and they wanted guys who could contribute right away. I liked both guys, unfortunately Carter regressed and lost his rotation spot to Cam Payne and now Melton has grown by leaps and bounds.

I loved Melton in HS UCLA didn't recruit him hard because he wasn't a shooter but when you saw him play you knew it was a mistake. If Cronin had been the coach then he'd have been a Bruin for sure. Then his soph year at USC was wiped out with the FBI story where in the end they basically proved his family didn't take any money the assistant coach kept it for himself but by then his season was over. He was really good last night

 

[Chaplin]

Melton is good now, but let's not fool ourselves -- he was not this player back when we traded him. Losing him was a side effect of having to make up for the mistakes of Ryan McDonough. We had a revolving door of point guards and Melton hadn't really stood out as someone we could use.

He's obviously gotten much better, but there's no reason to start proclaiming trading him a huge mistake. Hell, in my opinion he was a small price to pay to get rid of Josh Jackson.

 

[Finito]

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This killed me. NSFW

 

[Mainstreet]

As I recall the Grizzlies wanted De'Anthony Melton in the Josh Jackson trade so the Suns obliged.

 

[SunsTzu]

As I recall the Grizzlies wanted De'Anthony Melton in the Josh Jackson trade so the Suns obliged.

Yeah, Jones wanted to overhaul the team with pieces that fit even at the cost of losing value, just like shedding Warren for a 2nd. Hard to argue with the results even if Melton has developed into a solid player and Warren plays like a stud for stretches at a time.

 

[elindholm]

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The modern-day microfracture. This does not bode well.

 

[GatorAZ]

Melton is good now, but let's not fool ourselves -- he was not this player back when we traded him. Losing him was a side effect of having to make up for the mistakes of Ryan McDonough. We had a revolving door of point guards and Melton hadn't really stood out as someone we could use.

He's obviously gotten much better, but there's no reason to start proclaiming trading him a huge mistake. Hell, in my opinion he was a small price to pay to get rid of Josh Jackson.

Thought it was a mistake in real time. It was just a dumb deal to make considering there were other ways to move JJ. But it doesn’t really matter anymore.

 

[Ronin]

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[Ronin]

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[Mainstreet]

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You know that guy has to be quick.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I can't believe this, but I can't even remember the french guards name anymore - but he could have been sent out in that deal instead of Melton and should have been. It was obvious at the time Melton had a ton of potential and was already a good defender with a developing jump shot.

I can't remember the exact details but I'm pretty sure there was some financial concerns. As I recall we'd only signed him for two years so maybe he was expecting a bigger deal than we could give him? There was no doubt he had potential.

 

[Mainstreet]

This NBA tournament idea will not go away.

Maybe do a tournament in late December than concludes on Christmas Day but doesn't extend the number of games in the season.

It would be ideal if a play-in could be included but it's so early for that.

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[Mainstreet]

I can't remember the exact details but I'm pretty sure there was some financial concerns. As I recall we'd only signed him for two years so maybe he was expecting a bigger deal than we could give him? There was no doubt he had potential.

Also I think the Grizzles specifically wanted Melton in the trade and the Suns relented to get the trade done.

At the time there didn't seem to be a huge difference between Carter and Melton... at least not a deal breaker.

James Jones wanted to build his team and do it expeditiously.

 

[AzStevenCal]

This NBA tournament idea will not go away.

Maybe do a tournament in late December than concludes on Christmas Day but doesn't extend the number of games in the season.

It would be ideal if a play-in could be included but it's so early for that.

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It will happen but it won't be for the sake of the game or for the players well-being or for the enjoyment of the fans. It will be for money, nothing more.

It will cheapen the regular season and eventually (IMO) it will lead to the tournament carrying almost as much importance as the postseason. I wouldn't be surprised to see them eventually wipe out much of the regular season.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Also I think the Grizzles specifically wanted Melton in the trade and the Suns relented to get the trade done.

At the time there didn't seem to be a huge difference between Carter and Melton... at least not a deal breaker.

James Jones wanted to build his team and do it expeditiously.

Yeah they definitely wanted Melton, I just think that his next contract played a role in our willingness to let him go. And you're right, James was looking for a quick turnaround and it's hard to fault him when you look at the overall results.