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I don’t know if I am ready to accept 5 years of 10 win seasons, giving up the top pick to another team each time.

I also think moving KD for anything of value is going to be almost impossible.

I think that's why all firesale trades should basically start with re-acquiring our picks from Houston. The swaps are too far gone and we can sort of mitigate the disaster of those by pushing for wins every other year. Making a bottom feeder a potential play-in candidate isn't as difficult as turning a low level playoff team into a legit contender.

Find a way to get our picks and then move forward.
 

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I think that's why all firesale trades should basically start with re-acquiring our picks from Houston. The swaps are too far gone and we can sort of mitigate the disaster of those by pushing for wins every other year. Making a bottom feeder a potential play-in candidate isn't as difficult as turning a low level playoff team into a legit contender.

Find a way to get our picks and then move forward.
I don’t think there is a trade with Houston to be made.

Maybe in the summer, not right now.
 

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I'd like to see if the Suns can make a trade that fixes the hole in the middle before resorting to fire sales.

The Suns front office overreacted when they traded for Durant.

They shouldn't suddenly overreact again and jump to the other side of the boat. However, they do need to make a change before the trade deadline.
 

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I'd like to see if the Suns can make a trade that fixes the hole in the middle before resorting to fire sales.

I'd like to see if the Suns can make a trade that fixes the hole in the middle before resorting to fire sales.
with what assets are they going to be able to do this? We don't have a pick until 2031 we can deal. And i believe because we're over the 2nd apron, we can't bundle multiple players to make a deal for a big man.

and ultimately, no serviceable big man is cure this team's biggest problem... KD and Beal's health.
 

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with what assets are they going to be able to do this? We don't have a pick until 2031 we can deal. And i believe because we're over the 2nd apron, we can't bundle multiple players to make a deal for a big man.

and ultimately, no serviceable big man is cure this team's biggest problem... KD and Beal's health.
I have not looked at every roster and salary. I don't think we need a 18 point per night scorer either. Just someone who can keep people honest in the middle with an occasional basket. We have plenty of scoring on the team. There might not be anybody available. All I have been saying is that I would like for them to shore up PF position before a fire sale. Especially, when we have so much redundancy at other positions.
 

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with what assets are they going to be able to do this? We don't have a pick until 2031 we can deal. And i believe because we're over the 2nd apron, we can't bundle multiple players to make a deal for a big man.

and ultimately, no serviceable big man is cure this team's biggest problem... KD and Beal's health.

There is no cure for the health of Nurkic, Beal and Durant, but the Suns might be able to put together a trade for a player like Isaiah Stewart or Robert Williams as examples.
 

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I don’t know if I am ready to accept 5 years of 10 win seasons, giving up the top pick to another team each time.

I also think moving KD for anything of value is going to be almost impossible.
I wouldn't accept it either if I had a better way to go. Sure, we could keep going as is and maybe average 35 wins a season for the next decade but where's the fun in that? We took a huge risk, we failed. Throwing good money at a bad situation clearly isn't the answer so what else is there?

I'm okay not being good enough to win a championship as long as there's a possibility we're moving in the direction that will eventually put us in contention. But we're set up to gradually, perhaps rapidly, head the other direction over the next several years with no relief in sight unless we blow it up. And the longer we wait to blow it up, the older KD and Beal get and the closer we get to a career altering Booker injury.
 

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I wouldn't accept it either if I had a better way to go. Sure, we could keep going as is and maybe average 35 wins a season for the next decade but where's the fun in that? We took a huge risk, we failed. Throwing good money at a bad situation clearly isn't the answer so what else is there?

I'm okay not being good enough to win a championship as long as there's a possibility we're moving in the direction that will eventually put us in contention. But we're set up to gradually, perhaps rapidly, head the other direction over the next several years with no relief in sight unless we blow it up. And the longer we wait to blow it up, the older KD and Beal get and the closer we get to a career altering Booker injury.

If the Suns owned their future draft picks and rights, it would be an easier call. Also, the Big 3 have albatross contracts attached to them.

I'd like to see if the Suns can find a fix for the team before blowing it up. It's a long shot but not impossible.

If the right trades came along, sure I would consider it. However, the Suns need to think their way out of the situation, as contrasted with the way they blundered into it.
 

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If the Suns owned their future draft picks and rights, it would be an easier call. Also, the Big 3 have albatross contracts attached to them.

I'd like to see if the Suns can find a fix for the team before blowing it up. It's a long shot but not impossible.

If the right trades came along, sure I would consider it. However, the Suns need to think their way out of the situation, as contrasted with the way they blundered into it.
I think we can find a fix to make us better but not one that can put us in championship contention. To me, going forward with adjustments to this core is just prolonging the agony and everyday our tradable assets lose value. The best thing we have going for us is Ishbia's apparent willingness to spend money. So clear the cap and use that space and his wallet to facilitate trades that bring in picks so that we don't have to continue sliding into an abyss for the next 15 years. I don't have that long to live, many of us here don't.
 

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