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Josh Weinfuss' of ESPN:

GLENDALE, Ariz. -- The Arizona Cardinals open training camp on July 22 at University of Phoenix Stadium here. Here’s a 53-man roster projection:

QUARTERBACKS (2): Carson Palmer, Drew Stanton

Palmer is a gimme. Stanton will survive a long competition against Blaine Gabbert during training camp, because he’s more familiar with the offense -- having played in it since 2012 -- and coach Bruce Arians likes familiarity with his backups. That’s exactly what Stanton provides.

RUNNING BACKS (4): David Johnson, Andre Ellington, T.J. Logan, Chris Johnson

Arizona could easily keep five running backs (with Eli Penny joining the group), considering Ellington was once slated as a wide receiver this year. But everyone behind David Johnson needs to show they can play special teams at a high level in order to see the field, because he will rarely be coming out this season.

WIDE RECEIVERS (7): Larry Fitzgerald, John Brown, J.J. Nelson, Jaron Brown, Aaron Dobson, Chad Williams, Jeremy Ross

The first four are now staples on the roster. Dobson and Ross are veterans who add size. Williams is a third-round pick who is freaky fast and can be a playmaker at this level. Arians has said this year’s receivers room is the deepest he has ever been around, which will make cutting it down extremely difficult.

TIGHT ENDS (4): Jermaine Gresham, Troy Niklas, Ifeanyi Momah, Hakeem Valles

The fourth tight end spot will likely end up being a battle between Valles and Ricky Seals-Jones, an undrafted free agent out of Texas A&M. But if Valles wins the job, Seals-Jones could end up on the practice squad, waiting for his break. And that might come early, if Niklas can’t break his habit of getting injured.

OFFENSIVE LINE (8): T Jared Veldheer, G Evan Boehm, C A.Q. Shipley, G Mike Iupati, T D.J. Humphries, G Dorian Johnson, G Cole Toner, T Will Holden.

For years, offensive coordinator Harold Goodwin has stressed “position flexibility.” Well, now he has it. Basically, all eight of the offensive linemen can play multiple positions, including Toner, who can play four of the five.

DEFENSIVE LINE (8): Rodney Gunter, Josh Mauro, Robert Nkemdiche, Corey Peters, Frostee Rucker, Ed Stinson, Olsen Pierre, Xavier Williams

The responsibility of replacing Calais Campbell up front won’t be on one player, although Nkemdiche is the likely candidate to fill Campbell’s vacated starting spot. As a unit, this year’s defensive linemen will fill in for Campbell -- now with the Jacksonville Jaguars -- by committee. There’s a familiarity and understanding among them with the scheme they run.

OUTSIDE LINEBACKER (3): Chandler Jones, Markus Golden, Jarvis Jones

Last season, Jones played 86.8 percent of the defense’s snaps, and Golden played in 70.5 percent. In other words, those two rarely came off the field, so the Cardinals don’t need to stockpile their roster with outside linebackers. Jones is a former first-round pick whose talent might be rekindled in a new setting, and, if needed, defensive coordinator James Bettcher can turn to rookie Haason Reddick, who is a converted defensive end.

INSIDE LINEBACKER (5): Haason Reddick, Deone Bucannon, Karlos Dansby, Alani Fua, Scooby Wright

Bucannon is out after ankle surgery, so Reddick will start from Day 1. And depending on how Dansby looks at age 35, Bucannon might be slow to return to the lineup when he’s healthy. The other option is that Bucannon is inserted back into the rotation the day he’s cleared. Fua and Wright are standout special-teamers, which will punch their tickets to the 53-man roster.

Patrick Peterson, Justin Bethel, Brandon Williams, Rudy Ford


Peterson is a lock and will have a front-row seat to the most anticipated position battle of training camp: Bethel vs. Williams. Both looked impressive during OTAs and minicamp, but they could not really show how far they have progressed since last season because they weren’t allowed to make contact. Ford, meanwhile, will get a first-class education from the three above him on the depth chart.

SAFETY (5): Tyrann Mathieu, Tyvon Branch, Antoine Bethea, Budda Baker, Harlan Miller

In some ways, this is an entirely fresh secondary. Mathieu and Branch finished last season on injured reserve. Bethea was a free-agent signing. Baker was drafted. Miller is a converted cornerback. All five will likely have a role in Arizona’s multiple defensive schemes, making them all valuable to Bettcher.

SPECIALISTS (3): K Phil Dawson, P Richie Leone, LS Aaron Brewer

Dawson instantly made the Cardinals a better team because of his experience and cold-blooded demeanor. Leone is a former CFL punter who will compete with incumbent Matt Wile for the job. Brewer has the job to lose.

Seth Cox's of Revenge of the Birds:

Quarterbacks
Carson Palmer
Drew Stanton
Blaine Gabbert

Running Backs
David Johnson
Chris Johnson
T.J. Logan
Elijhaa Penny

Wide Receivers
Larry Fitzgerald
John Brown
J.J. Nelson
Chad Williams
Jaron Brown
Krishawn Hogan

Tight Ends
Jermaine Gresham
Troy Niklas
Ifeanyi Momah

Offensive Line
D.J. Humphries
Mike Iupati
A.Q. Shipley
Evan Boehm
Jared Veldheer
Will Holden
Dorian Johnson
Cole Toner
John Wetzel

Offense: 25


Defensive Line
Robert Nkemdiche
Corey Peters
Rodney Gunter
Josh Mauro
Olsen Pierre
Xavier Williams
Frostee Rucker

Linebackers
Chandler Jones
Deone Bucannon
Karlos Dansby
Markus Golden
Jarvis Jones
Haason Reddick
Zaviar Gooden
Kareem Martin

Cornerbacks
Patrick Peterson
Justin Bethel
Brandon Williams
Elie Bouka

Safeties
Tyrann Mathieu
Antoine Bethea
Tyvon Branch
Budda Baker
Harlan Miller

Defense: 25

Special Teams
Phil Dawson
Richie Leone
Aaron Brewer

Specials: 3

Jess Root's of Cards Wire (USA Today):

QUARTERBACK:

Carson Palmer, Drew Stanton, Blaine Gabbert

Palmer is the starter. The team will not part with Stanton, as they know they can win games with him in relief, as evidenced by his 6-3 record as a starter with the Cardinals. As I have stated many times, they signed Gabbert for the future. Unless he is awful, he will be on the roster.

Running back
David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Kerwynn Williams, T.J. Logan

Here we might see five backs make the team if Elijhaa Penny develop into someone as reliable as Stepfan Taylor was. Williams had a great offseason. Logan is the game changer and return specialist. Andre Ellington has no room on this roster with a younger, faster, more versatile version of him on the roster.

WIDE RECEIVER:

Larry Fitzgerald, John Brown, J.J. Nelson, Jaron Brown, Chad Williams, Brittan Golden

Somehow, Golden makes it again. Here Krishawn Hogan could make it or Jeremy Ross because of special teams and perhaps even punt returns, but the reliable play of Golden, who had a great offseason, and his special teams contributions are what get him on the roster.

Tight end
Jermaine Gresham, Troy Niklas, Ifeanyi Momah

The sixth receiver, third quarterback and ninth offensive lineman force me to short a position. It’s here.

OFFENSIVE LINE:

D.J. Humphries, Mike Iupati, A.Q. Shipley, Evan Boehm, Jared Veldheer, Cole Toner, John Wetzel, Dorian Johnson, Will Holden

The Cardinals go with nine because they like what they see in Holden, but don’t want to lose Wetzel and his versatility. Toner and Wetzel are the main backups. Ideally, neither of the draft picks play this year.

Defensive line
Robert Nkemdiche, Corey Peters, Josh Mauro, Frostee Rucker, Rodney Gunter, Xavier Williams, Olsen Pierre

Ed Stinson can’t find his way on the roster here.

INSIDE LINEBACKERS:

Karlos Dansby, Deone Bucannon, Haason Reddick, Alani Fua, Scooby Wright

The first three are a given. Fua and Wright are about special teams.

Outside linebacker
Chandler Jones, Markus Golden, Jarvis Jones, Kareem Martin

No surprises here. Jones and Martin should be solid on special teams.

Cornerback
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Jason Getz-USA TODAY Sports

Patrick Peterson, Justin Bethel, Brandon Williams, Elie Bouka

This is where no surprises happen. Sojourn Shelton might make a push, but he doesn’t make the cut and could be a practice squad candidate.

Safety
Antoine Bethea, Tyvon Branch, Tyrann Mathieu, Budda Baker, Harlan Miller

The first four are set. Miller’s experience gives him the edge over sixth-round pick Rudy Ford.

Specialists
Phil Dawson, Matt Wile, Aaron Brewer

In a tossup for me, I pick Wile to win the punting job.
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Summary:

Consensus:

QB (2): Palmer, Stanton
RB (3): Johnson, D., Johnson, C., Logan
WR (5): Fitzgerald, Brown (John), Nelson, Brown (Jaron), Williams
TE (3): Gresham, Niklas, Momah
OL (8): Humphries, Iupati, Shipley, Boehm, Veldheer, Holden, Johnson, Toner
DL (7): Rucker, Peters, Mauro, Nkemdiche, Gunter, X. Williams, Pierre
ILB (3): Bucannon, Dansby, Reddick
OLB (3): Jones (Chandler), Golden, Jones (Jarvis)
CB: (3); Peterson, Bethel, Williams
S: (5): Bethea, Mathieu, Baker, Branch, Miller
ST (2): Dawson, Brewer

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Bubble:

QB: Gabbert
RB: Ellington, Williams (Kerwynn), Penny
WR: Golden, Dobson, Ross, Hogan
TE: Valles
OL: Wetzel
DL: Stinson
ILB: Wright, Fua, Martin (Gabe), Gooden
OLB: Martin (Kareem)
CB: Ford, Bouka
ST: Wile, Leone

My Thoughts:

* I think Jess Root's (USA Today) is the most accurate.

* Gabbert is going to make the roster
* Kerwynn Williams is going to make the roster
* The #6 WR spot is wide open
* G/T John Wetzel is gong to make the roster and be active on game days
* ILB Scooby Wright is going to make the roster and possibly be a ST's captain
* If Rudy Ford has a good camp, he makes it and Tyvon Branch gets waived
* Elie Bouka is going to make the roster (team won't risk putting him on waivers)
* The punting competition may come down to who is the better holder on field goals.

Possible Roster Surprises (imo):

RB Elijaah Penny
WR Krishawn Hogan
DT Pasoni Tasini
ILB Tre'Von Johnson
OLB Alex Bazzie
CB Sojourn Shelton
SS Ironhead Gallon


 

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Jurecky prediction has zero chance to happen and show he doesn't have any clue
 

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For kicks, and to keep me inside on this day where my state is experiencing rancid, armpit weather.

Practice Squad guys:

1. Trevor Knight - BA talked about rest for Palmer, and Stanton, and the Cardinals need to start thinking about the eventual replacement for both.

2. [Eliajah Penny vs. James Summers] - Johnson & Johnson, Williams, Logan are locks, IMO.

3. [Carlton Agudosi vs. Krishawn Hogan] - This is it, because Fitz, Brown, Brown, Williams, Nelson, Golden are a lock, IMO.

4. [Larry Clark vs. Marquis Bundy] - See above

5. [Eli Bouka vs. Sojourn Shelton] - Peterson, Bethel, Williams, Ford

6. [Stephen Wroblewski vs. Ricky Seals-Jones vs. Hakeem Valles] -

------- 4 players can have 2 seasons under their belt --------

7. Givens Price - Cardinals have been keeping him around for few seasons, and seem to like him.

8. Cole Toner - Shipley and Boehm can play center. Dorian Johnson is slotted for OG.

9. [Scoobey Wright vs. Gabe Martin vs. Tre'Von Johnson vs. Cap Capi vs the entire NFL cuts]

10. [BPA amongst the cut NFL players]


Any players with 2 years or less in the entire NFL that gets waived when the team cuts down its 90 man roster are competing for these spots, that includes all the players currently on the roster not noted above, and even the players on the list above have to out compete the 1,184 other players who get cut at that time.


Obviously Camp Bodies / Emergency for season ending camp injuries:

1. Aaron Dobson, WR

2. Zavier Gooden, ILB

3. John Ulrick, OT

4. Tony Bergstrom, OC


Its a long, long, long shot, but "You are saying their is a chance!"


1. Jumal Rolle, CB - Because who knows who the best CB2 on the roster is this year.

2. Jeremy Ross, WR - Numbers game makes it almost impossible for him to make the cut.
 

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Stacking a Roster - A Different Way to Look at Things.

We've always stocked each roster-position group with an appropriate number of quality starters with the hope we'll gradually upgrade thinner positions as the preseason wears on.

Problem is: No position is deep enough because you never know where the injury gods will strike next. (That leaves everything up to chance - a pretty scary way to run a railroad). You can win with that approach, but not very often over a logical span of years.

There's no way we can predict which positions will be hard-hit and which ones we'll get by with Scott free. All we can do is guess, pray and hope we'll stay lucky. Or we can try to take controol of our destiny.

Suggested Solution: Upgrade at the bottom. Overpay for talent at roster-positions #45 - 53 (& while we're at it, enhance movement up & down between the "street" and the active and PS rosters).

We already do most of this - with our secret weapon being our credibility for being a good team to play for.

In other words, we might be better off spending a higher portion of our budget on #45 - #53 than we do on 2 or 3 guys higher up on our pecking order. Keys to our success may turn out to be how good we manage the bottom 15% of our roster and our credibility in the free market.

Thoughts?
 
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Stacking a Roster - A Different Way to Look at Things.

We've always stocked each roster-position group with an appropriate number of quality starters with the hope we'll gradually upgrade thinner positions as the preseason wears on.

Problem is: No position is deep enough because you never know where the injury gods will strike next. (That leaves everything up to chance - a pretty scary way to run a railroad). You can win with that approach, but not very often over a logical span of years.

There's no way we can predict which positions will be hard-hit and which ones we'll get by with Scott free. All we can do is guess, pray and hope we'll stay lucky. Or we can try to take controol of our destiny.

Suggested Solution: Upgrade at the bottom. Overpay for talent at roster-positions #45 - 53 (& while we're at it, enhance movement up & down between the "street" and the active and PS rosters).

We already do most of this - with our secret weapon being our credibility for being a good team to play for.

In other words, we might be better off spending a higher portion of our budget on #45 - #53 than we do on 2 or 3 guys higher up on our pecking order. Keys to our success may turn out to be how good we manage the bottom 15% of our roster and our credibility in the free market.

Thoughts?

Those spots--game-day inactives--are generally rookies who aren't ready to see the field but have shown something you want to develop in the middle term.

There are hardly any middle class veterans left in the NFL. The Pats are one of the few teams that do have them, in part because Brady has such a below-market deal.

These guys have to play special teams. They just have to.
 
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