A Free Agent List

[slinslin]

Here is a list of interessting players now that it looks like that we might be better of with 2-3 good role players for our bench.


Boston
Chris Mihm , Qualifying Offer, current salary 2.8M$

Chicago
Jamal Crawford, Qualifying Offer, 2.5M$

Cleveland
Darius Miles, Qualifying Offer, 4.1M$
Carlos Boozer, FA, 600K$
Jason Kapono, FA, 300K$
Eric Williams, FA, 6M$

Dallas
Marquis Daniels, FA, 300k$
Steve Nash, Player option, 5.7M$

Denver
Rodney White, FA, 2M$ - According to realgm not FA
Chris Anderson, FA, 600k$
Marcus Camby, Player option, 7.2M$

Detroit
Mehmet Okur, FA, 1.1M$

Golden State
Erick Dampier, Player option, 7.8M$
Adonal Foyle, FA, 4.4M$

Indiana
Reggie Miller, FA, 5M$

LA Clippers
Quentin Richardson, Qualifying Offer, 2.5M$

LA Lakers
Kobe Bryant, Player Option, 13.5M$
Gary Payton, Player Option, 5.4M$
Karl Malone, Player Option 1.5M$

Memphis
Stromile Swift, Qualifying Offer, 4.6M$
Bonzi Wells, Team Option , 6.8M$


Milwaukee
Toni Kukoc, FA, 9.6M$
Dan Gazuric, FA, 600k$

Minnesota
Latrell Sprewell, Player Option, 13.5M$
Troy Hudson, Player Option , 2.5M$
Fred Hoibert , FA, 1M$

New Jersey
Kenyon Martin, Qualifying Offer, 5M$

New York
Kurt Thomas, Player option, 5.4M$

Philadelphia
Kyle Korver, FA, 360K$

Portland
Rasheed Wallace, FA, 17M$
Wesley Person, FA, 7.7M$

Sacramento
Vlade Divac, FA, 12M$

San Antonio
Emanuel Ginobili, FA, 1.5M$

Seattle
Brent Barry, FA, 5.4M$

Toronto
Morris Peterson, Qualifying Offer, 1.6M$

Utah
Carlos Arroyo, FA, 1M$

Washington
Etan Thomas, Qualifying Offer, 3M$

 

[slinslin]

Key Statistics

Chris Mihm
6.6ppg 6rpg 1bpg 49%FG 7'0

Jamal Crawford
17ppg 5.5apg 1.6spg 6'5 PG ; under 40% shooting

Darius Miles
9ppg 4.5rpg 2apg 43%FG

Carlos Boozer
12.5ppg 10rpg 2apg 51%FG

Eric Williams
11.6ppg 4.2rpg 42%FG 26mpg

Jason Kapono
4ppg 42%FG 47%3s 14 3PTM

Marquis Daniels
4ppg 50.5%FG 1rpg 1apg 10mpg

Rodney White
7.4ppg 2.5rpg 1apg 45%FG 35%3s 13mpg

Chris Andersen
3.5ppg 2bpg 4rpg 48%FG 15mpg

Marcus Camby
7.6ppg 9.5rpg 2.6bpg 1.4spg 1.4apg 27mpg

Mehmet Okur
44%FG 10ppg 7rpg 1apg 1bpg 24mpg

Erick Dampier
11.4ppg 11rpg 1.6bpg 51%FG 32mpg

Adonal Foyle
injured all year

Quentin Richardson
17ppg 6rpg 2apg 37.5%FG 35mpg

Stromile Swift
10ppg 6rpg 50%FG 1.8bpg 20mpg

Bonzi Wells
13ppg 4rpg 2.4apg 41%FG 27mpg

Dan Gadzuric
7ppg 6rpg 2bpg 52.4%FG 19mpg 6'11

Toni Kukoc
10ppg 4rpg 3apg 22mpg 43%FG

Fred Hoiberg
8ppg 3rpg 2apg 48.4FG% 40%3s

Troy Hudson
injured all season

Wesley Person
6ppg 36%3s (career 41.5%3s)

Brent Barry
11ppg 49%FG 44%3s 5.4apg 1.4spg

Morris Peterson
7ppg 41%3s

Etan Thomas
8ppg 7rpg 1.6bpg 6'10

Kyle Korver
47%3s

Carlos Arrory
48.5%FG 5.7apg 14ppg 28mpg

 

[sunsfn]

When I look at this list I do not think that the suns will be interested in a player that has a restriction on him, so I have eliminated them from my thoughts on who to sign. Why waste the time.
It appears that the suns will have to replace Googs, Williams, & McDyess, so they will need an experienced big to do that.

-------------------------------------------
I am thinking the suns will keep CJ and he looks like his shot is coming around and he knows how to play the game and that is why he is playing now.
Therefore we will probably look big especially if they can sign the foreign player to come over and play guard.

(that is for a free agent)

The suns may decide to keep white but they will still need one more big.

Adonal Foyle, FA, 4.4M$
This guy has been in Golden state long enough and probably wants a change. Should be resonable.

Vlade Divac, FA, 12M$
I am not sure Vlade would come here no matter about the other foreign players. Vlade may stay another year at Sac. just to try for a championship, unless they get one this year, then he may play a year with someone like Phx.


Dan Gazuric, FA, 600k$
This guy would be a great pick-up, but Milwaukee would be very foolish to let him go so he may not be available.

I would think that Boozer will re-sign with Cleveland and enjoy the ride with LaBron. If not he would be a good pick-up.
Carlos Boozer, FA, 600K$

I still think Okur will resign with Detroit, but if not a good pick-up but also may be too expensive.
Mehmet Okur, FA, 1.1M$

 

[slinslin]

Best role player options in my opinion


PG
1. Brent Barry as a tweener
2. Carlos Arroyo

SG
1. Brent Barry
2. Quentin Richardson
3. Wesley Person
4. Fred Hoiberg
5. Morris Peterson

SF
1. Darius Miles
2. Rodney White
3. Toni Kukoc
4. Eric Williams

PF
1. Stromile Swift 6'9-6'10
2. Carlos Boozer 6'8-6'9
3. Camby/Okur
4. Chris Mihm 7'

C
1. Mehmet Okur 6'11
2. Marcus Camby 6'11-7'
3. Vlade Divac
4. Dan Gazuric 6'11
5. Etan Thomas 6'10
6. Erick Dampier 6'11 - might not be FA

Best storyline, Quentin Richardson and Darius Miles.

Possible star FAs or FAs that don't want to be role players:

Rasheed Wallace, Steve Nash, Kobe Bryant, Kenyon Martin, Latrell Sprewell, Karl Malone, Gary Payton, Emanuel Ginobili (wouldn't want to backup), Jamal Crawford (has an ego), Bonzi Wells (no backup), Kurt Thomas(no backup).

 

[JCSunsfan]

I like Barry as a 3rd guard.

He would be to this team what Danny Ainge was to the teams of the early 90's. He would be an effective crunch time player and a 3 pt gunner. He's actually a pretty good defender as well.

His shooting percentages indicate that he is quite economical in his shot selection--just the thing we need.

We probably need to sign a vet big guy. Lampe is only 18, he might end up being very good but that could be 2 or 3 years away. We'll need someone to fill the void until he is ready.

 

[slinslin]

I think that if we don't draft a backup for Amare , Swift would be the perfect backup.
Basically a less talented version of Amare with the same athleticism.

Boozer would also be excellent but I would like to have some good athletes on the bench as well and not only in the starting lineup.

Voshkul/Lampe
Amare/Swift
Marion/Zarko
JJ/BBarry
Barbosa/Milos

That leaves 2 roster spots preferably a F/C and a G/F.

IR: White, Eisley, Jacobsen - Well the injured list guys are the same in all my scenarios.

 

[George O'Brien]

I would like an SG who is a good pure shooter and be willing to come off the bench: Brent Barry or Wes Person fit if the price is right.

I would like a strong defensive center who can rebound and block shots. Okur is more of an offensive threat than a defender. Swift is too small to be a center (he is listed at 230).

When I brought up Gazuric a few weeks ago, most of the comments were negitive. I'd go for him if he was not too expensive, but he would be strictly a role player.

 

[hcsilla]

Suns probably can't sign both Barry and Swift.

 

[slinslin]

Originally posted by George O'Brien
I would like an SG who is a good pure shooter and be willing to come off the bench: Brent Barry or Wes Person fit if the price is right.

I would like a strong defensive center who can rebound and block shots. Okur is more of an offensive threat than a defender. Swift is too small to be a center (he is listed at 230).

When I brought up Gazuric a few weeks ago, most of the comments were negitive. I'd go for him if he was not too expensive, but he would be strictly a role player.

Swift started a lot of games at center for the Grizz.
He is very muscular.

Anyway he would be a backup for the Suns at the 4 and 5. His size is perfectly ok at the 4 and good enough to play against 2nd unit centers.

 

[George O'Brien]

Originally posted by hcsilla
Suns probably can't sign both Barry and Swift.

With Barry, a lot will depend on how healthy is perceived to be. If he is 100%, he should get $4-5 million. If there are doubts, he gets $2-2.5 million for a short contract.

I can't see Jerry West letting Swift go. He's out of position but still does a pretty good job. I agree, I think he will be too expensive since he is not a long range solution.

 

[Joe Mama]

It wouldn't surprise me if Swift is traded before the deadline. Ion so don't believe Jerry West will let him go for nothing. I would love it if the Phoenix Suns signed Brent Barry for a reasonable contract, but I think the only way they could attract him would be for a ridiculous salary. I think he was be a fantastic fit for the San Antonio Spurs.

I believe Quentin Richardson is going to be a bad signing for somebody. IMO he epitomizes the current young, American NBA prospects. He is a good athlete who does not shoot and pass the ball well. He is a very streaky scorer. There's no way he should get anything over the mid-level exception.

Joe Mama

 

[slinslin]

I forgot one interessting FA.

Carlos Arroyo, FA ,1M$

14ppg 5.7apg 48.5FG% 28mpg

 

[George O'Brien]

Originally posted by slinslin
I forgot one interessting FA.

Carlos Arroyo, FA ,1M$

14ppg 5.7apg 48.5FG% 28mpg

He is on a team with only $8.6 million in salaries guaranteed for next year and is getting starter minutes on a playoff level team. He is not going anywhere.

 

[Joe Mama]

Originally posted by George O'Brien
He is on a team with only $8.6 million in salaries guaranteed for next year and is getting starter minutes on a playoff level team. He is not going anywhere.

I'm not so sure that Utah will overpay for him, but I know that the Phoenix Suns will not.

We have talked about all this money for free agency, but if the Suns really do intend to bring over Vujanic I'll bet it's going to cost at least $2 million per season.

Joe Mama

 

[George O'Brien]

Originally posted by Joe Mama
I'm not so sure that Utah will overpay for him, but I know that the Phoenix Suns will not.

We have talked about all this money for free agency, but if the Suns really do intend to bring over Vujanic I'll bet it's going to cost at least $2 million per season.

Joe Mama

I agree. I do not understand all these posts about point guards like Felton and Gordon in draft or Arroyo just because he is under paid. Barbosa has unlimited potential and Vujanic would be an early lottery pick if he came out this year. I would not kill any cap space on another PG.

 

[SunsTzu]

Originally posted by George O'Brien
I would like an SG who is a good pure shooter and be willing to come off the bench: Brent Barry or Wes Person fit if the price is right.

I think Kyle Korver would be a better choice. Younger and cheaper. Even though CJ has improved his shot since last year I think Korver is the much better shooter right now.

 

[George O'Brien]

Originally posted by SunsTzu
I think Kyle Korver would be a better choice. Younger and cheaper. Even though CJ has improved his shot since last year I think Korver is the much better shooter right now.

HoopsHype profile:

"A truly outstanding 3 point shooter. Can't create his own shot. Lacks athleticism. Can he adjust to the physical play of the NBA?"
HoopsHype

His stats are weird. He is shooting only 40% from the field but 47.3% for 3 pointers.

 

[SunsTzu]

Originally posted by George O'Brien
HoopsHype profile:

"A truly outstanding 3 point shooter. Can't create his own shot. Lacks athleticism. Can he adjust to the physical play of the NBA?"
HoopsHype

His stats are weird. He is shooting only 40% from the field but 47.3% for 3 pointers.

Yeah that report sounds accurate. When I've seen him play this year he has been lights out when given any space beyond the arc. If we're looking for a sniper I think he's our man.

 

[George O'Brien]

Originally posted by SunsTzu
Yeah that report sounds accurate. When I've seen him play this year he has been lights out when given any space beyond the arc. If we're looking for a sniper I think he's our man.

Can he be more than a 10 minute a game role player?

 

[SunsTzu]

Originally posted by George O'Brien
Can he be more than a 10 minute a game role player?

Honestly don't konw how much he can develop. Right now he is a deadly shooter and not much else. He gets in foul trouble largely due to getting no respect from the refs. He is only a rookie so I'm sure he can improve his game, I'm just not sure how much(only seen the nationaly televised 6ers games).

Also I'm not sure how great our need for a shooter really is. Barbosa seems to be shooting well, by all accounts Milos is a great shooter and CJ did make improvements since last year. Personally I'd like to see us get someone that can play the high post center.

 

[George O'Brien]

Originally posted by SunsTzu
Honestly don't konw how much he can develop. Right now he is a deadly shooter and not much else. He gets in foul trouble largely due to getting no respect from the refs. He is only a rookie so I'm sure he can improve his game, I'm just not sure how much(only seen the nationaly televised 6ers games).

Also I'm not sure how great our need for a shooter really is. Barbosa seems to be shooting well, by all accounts Milos is a great shooter and CJ did make improvements since last year. Personally I'd like to see us get someone that can play the high post center.

He does sound a lot like CJ, although I think Casey has a bit more game but not the shooting consistency. I think the jury is out on CJ, but if he is replaced it has to be by someone who can play defense as well as shoot.

 

[slinslin]

Cavs beat Sonics without Lebron James.

Boozer 32points 20rebounds 4assists

Against Utah the game before he had 32points 18rebounds.

Maybe he should be our main target. Why did we not draft him! ARgh!

 

[Joe Mama]

Where is he going to play?

Joe Mama

 

[slinslin]

6th man or start Amare at center against the majority of teams.

Though I would guess that he is a Utah guy, meaning Utah will throw as much as they can at him.

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

Why would he want to leave Cle though? I mean he gets to play next to Lebron, who will make him look better than he is for the next decade. I mean the cavs arent in a hurry to get rid of him either.