A Nash point we havent mentioned...

[Goldfield]

Nash IMO is the PERFECT fit for this team. Offensively he does EVERYTHING this team needs.

Although I dont think his weak defensive skillz will be magnified as much since he isnt on a horrid defensive team(dallas). But I agree he isnt a good defender.

One point I dont think anyone has pointed out is Barbosa. He has show flashes of becoming a great defender. They might make a very good rotation together.

 

[devilalum]

Nash IMO is the PERFECT fit for this team. Offensively he does EVERYTHING this team needs.

Although I dont think his weak defensive skillz will be magnified as much since he isnt on a horrid defensive team(dallas). But I agree he isnt a good defender.

One point I dont think anyone has pointed out is Barbosa. He has show flashes of becoming a great defender. They might make a very good rotation together.

Amare really needs to step up defensively this year. If he can provide an inside presence on D Nash can play up on his guy and Amare should be there to close the door if he gets past.

 

[Chaz]

Yea, the Suns were not a great defensive team last year either so I am not sure it will be that much different from Dallas. I have heard some Dallas fans say Nash is the only one that tried on defense.


Suns defense has been based on quickness and steals not based on a tough inside presense. The Suns have kept the quick perimiter guys (Barbosa, Marion) now they need an inside player to help back them up and let Amare and Marion be weakside shot blockers. Barbosa is a great open court defender but does not really have the strength yet to stay on some of the stronger PG in the league. Also if Zarko expects to play he will have to get stronger to help on the boards to finish defensive possessions.

I agree that Nash fits perfectly with this team on offense and any lack of defense will not be from lack of effort.

 

[Mainstreet]

The main thing about Nash, he will make every Sun on the court a better offensive player and will distribute the ball at the right time to the right player (instant chemistry). Also another team cannot leave him alone because he can shoot the lights out.

He reminds me so much of John Stockton and barring injury, should have a long career as he uses his brain even more than his athletic ability. Larry Bird is another player that comes to mind that had a great career using his intelligence more than his athletic ability.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Another point to consider is that Nash and Amare share the same agent and Amare went with the C's to recruit Nash (the only player that did).

Could it be that, while improving your team, you also are showing your young star your commitment to him. Young players need to be handled with kid gloves.

 

[Goldfield]

The main thing about Nash, he will make every Sun on the court a better offensive player and will distribute the ball at the right time to the right player (instant chemistry). Also another team cannot leave him alone because he can shoot the lights out.

He reminds me so much of John Stockton and barring injury, should have a long career as he uses his brain even more than his athletic ability. Larry Bird is another player that comes to mind that had a great career using his intelligence more than his athletic ability.

I also think Nash is ALOT like Stockton. Although Nash is alittle more "hip" lol...

 

[George O'Brien]

I also think Nash is ALOT like Stockton. Although Nash is alittle more "hip" lol...

Mayb with $65 million he can afford to go to the barber.

I will admit that I'm not sure Marbury was much better than Nash on defense. Maybe Barbosa will get minutes when defense is most at issue. Too early to tell.

 

[devilalum]

Maybe with $65 million he can afford to go to the barber.

What a curmudgeonous line.

 

[Bada0Bing]

I'm sure "curmudgeonous" means something really cool, but I Don't know, I'm just a dumb Suns fan. I'm hoping they have more up their sleeve than Steve Nash.

 

[George O'Brien]

I'm sure "curmudgeonous" means something really cool, but I Don't know, I'm just a dumb Suns fan. I'm hoping they have more up their sleeve than Steve Nash.

Really cool.

I expect they have something on their mind. Still, I'm sure that Nash will change the Suns more than most people realize. It has been a while since the Sun had a PG that could run the break effectively and much much longer since they had a PG who was a solid outside shooter. I'm not sure what kind of offense the Suns will run, but it will be much harder to stop with Nash playing.

 

[Dylan]

The thing that makes me think that is I read where Ginobili's agent said we offered some money, but not enough. The whole Ginobili thing surprises me.

I believe that barring a sign and trade for Bryant, that we are going for a big man who plays defense. The Suns have been hinting at that ever since the Marbury trade.

So, I just don't understand that unless there is a sign and trade going on, and we are going to trade somone and need Ginobili, or trade him. He's a good player, but it isn't our biggest need. Maybe this is how we get our big man.

 

[binkar]

I honestly think that this team has alot of defensive potential. They are one of the most ATHLETIC teams in the league. I think they have the skills to be good its just about the desire. I agree Amare has to become not only dominant on offense but on defense as well.

If we learn how to play good defense the sky is the limit because once we get a turnover there are few teams in the NBA that will be able to run with this group.

 

[Goldfield]

Really cool.

I expect they have something on their mind. Still, I'm sure that Nash will change the Suns more than most people realize. It has been a while since the Sun had a PG that could run the break effectively and much much longer since they had a PG who was a solid outside shooter. I'm not sure what kind of offense the Suns will run, but it will be much harder to stop with Nash playing.

That is exactly how I feel about adding Nash...

This tam is built to RUN. Nash is gunna make a huge impact on this team.

 

[Goldfield]

I honestly think that this team has alot of defensive potential. They are one of the most ATHLETIC teams in the league. I think they have the skills to be good its just about the desire. I agree Amare has to become not only dominant on offense but on defense as well.

If we learn how to play good defense the sky is the limit because once we get a turnover there are few teams in the NBA that will be able to run with this group.

We have some good defensive players, the problem is they are so young. It takes time to learn to react instead of allways thinking what to do on D.

BUt we still need a presence inside to help Amare.

 

[George O'Brien]

It would be really interesting to know exactly what the health and conditioning status of McDyess really is. Is he really recovered or likely to get injured again? How much of his former self could he get back to?

At 6'9" 245 (listed) Dice is small for a center, but late in the season he showed that he could be effective on defense, rebound, and shoot that short jumper pretty well (he finished with a 48.4% shooting percentage). The real dream would be if he returned to something close to the level he reached before his injuries.

I know its a long shot, but then again I never expected Camby to come back and be so effective. It's been a long time since Dice was healthy, but he was an incredible player before his injuries. During his last full year he averaged 20.6 ppg, 12.1 rpg, 1.46 blocks per game and averaged 49.5% from the field. He was also considered a very good defender.

I cannot see him getting close to that level again, but even 3/4 of that would be huge. Compare what he might do to what Foyle (who also comes off an injury year) and Dice has more upside. With his history of injuries I don't think anyone is going to offer him a massive package and he seemed to like it in Phoenix.

My hope is that the Suns have a deal in place where they will offer about $2.5 million but match any offer his agent can find up to about $4 million.

 

[Joe Mama]

The best thing the Phoenix Suns could do defensively is get rid of that frantic, double teaming defense. They would be better off just playing man to man. When he was first hired I thought I read that Mike D'Antoni preferred a man to man defense.

Joe Mama

 

[coloradosun]

At 6'9" 245 (listed) Dice is small for a center, but late in the season he showed that he could be effective on defense, rebound, and shoot that short jumper pretty well (he finished with a 48.4% shooting percentage). The real dream would be if he returned to something close to the level he reached before his injuries.

I know its a long shot, but then again I never expected Camby to come back and be so effective.

My hope is that the Suns have a deal in place where they will offer about $2.5 million but match any offer his agent can find up to about $4 million.

George

I've been on the same page with you about Brent Barry and I am on the same page with you on McDyess. The one thing that Dice improved upon after he left the Suns was his jumper, it became lethal in Denver Part II.

It's kind of funny on how both Camby and Dice had problems rehabbing in NY. If I were them I would file some kind of malpractice suit against the trainers.

With Foyle gone, I believe Dice is who we roll with.