A Weis Decision

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First and foremost on my mind today, is the health of Jim Skane, Damien Anderson and his brothers. I wish all of you a rapid recovery. Get well soon, men.

Here's this week's article:

The recent word from the Cardinal front office is that they have a clear-cut plan for the off-season. Rod Graves and Michael Bidwill have alluded to such a plan in their post-season interviews with the media.

While talk of a clear-cut plan is encouraging, it already appears from the Cardinals' initial short list of head coaching candidates that the front office's plan is not particularly well thought out.

One would think that with young quarterbacks Josh McCown and Preston Parsons already in the mix and with the potential opportunity to draft either Eli Manning or Ben Roethlisberger in the 2004 draft, that the Cardinals would be best served to hire an established offensive guru, to not only accelerate the progress of these young quarterbacks, but to address the fact that the Cardinals posted the worst scoring average in the NFL this past year.

Interviewing Jim Fassel and Dennis Green can be seen as a positive, especially in the sense that both candidates bring many years of NFL head coaching experience to the table and both coaches are offensive oriented. Hiring an experienced head coach would break the Cardinals' trend of hiring unproven and untested coordinators (4 of the past 5 head coaches have fit this mold: Stallings, Bugel, Tobin, McGinnis). Fassel is an astute teacher and play caller...and is the kind of offensive guru the Cardinals really need.

The problem is...why would Fassel choose Arizona over the tradition rich franchises in Buffalo or Washington? First of all, Fassel must know that his next head coaching job will almost certainly be his last. It would therefore behoove him to make the most prudent decision.

In Buffalo Fassel would be working with one of the game's most dynamic general managers in Tom Donohoe...Fassel would be inheriting an offense featuring Travis Henry and Eric Moulds and a much improved defense led by Takeo Spikes...if he can turn the offense around, he can win immediately in Buffalo...and, regardless of whether the Bills win immediately or not, Fassel would never have to worry about selling out Ralph Wilson stadium. It will be loaded to the gills for years to come...just as FedEx Field will always be jam packed in Washington...where Fassel would have to deal with the meddling, overzealous Dan Snyder...but Snyder is an owner who will do everything in his power to bring the best available talent to Washington...which to Fassel would be a refreshing change from the ultra-conservative management in the Meadowlands.

As for Dennis Green, give him credit for saying all the right things at his recent press conference at Cardinal headquarters. However, Green is far more desperate than Fassel, having been out of a coaching job for the past two seasons....and quite frankly, Green hasn't received much interest from teams looking for a head coach the past two years...the most curious of which was the snubbing he received from the San Francisco 49ers...where Green was once an assistant to Bill Walsh. When the 49ers turned to controversial college/ex NFL head coach Dennis Erickson, this did not reflect well on Green's candidacy.

One must wonder just how stigmatized Green has become around NFL management circles. If so, what caused such a stigma? Was it the utter chaos and turmoil surrounging the Viking franchise when Green departed the scene? Was it Green's threat to sue Viking ownership even while he was employed in Minnesota? Was it Green's egomaniacal demeanor?...or Green's reputation for playing favorites? Some of the above? All of the above?

Like Fassel, Green must believe that his next coaching assignment will be his last. Sure, Green would love to land on his feet in Washington or Oakland, but in light of team's consistently tepid interest in his candidacy the past two years, Green is ready to hop on any opportunity....and will likely try to do his best to erase any past stigmas...which may be a plus...yet...one has to wonder what kind of a staff he can piece together. His last offensive coordinator in Minnesota was Sherman Lewis, the ex-Packer offensive coordinator who rarely if ever called the plays in Green Bay. Mike Tice did not retain Lewis as offensive coordinator when Tice took over the head coaching reins two years ago, electing instead to turn to Scott Linehan, a play-caller with no NFL experience.

Can Dennis Green take over the play-calling if his system is struggling?...the way Fassel did two years ago in New York, subseqently leading the Giants to seven wins in the last nine games and a playoff berth...which ended on Trey Junkin's errant field goal snap in San Francisco. Green is far more comfortable as a delegator. Therefore, can we as Cardinal fans be assured that the development of the Cardinal offense will be in the right hands? Will the Cardinal offense be run by yet another novice play-caller? Or, perhaps even worse, by an over-the-hill offensive coordinator like Sherman Lewis?

The same questions can be asked about the other two Cardinal coaching candidates, Romeo Crennel and Joe Johnson. Sure, Crennel and Johnson would most likely get the defense back on track, but whose hands will the offense be in? The answer is, most likely another position coach who has never called a play in an NFL game. This would be a major gamble...the same gamble the Cardinals took with Rich Olson and Jerry Sullivan.

Here's where Charlie Weis, the offensive coordinator of the Patriots comes in. Weis is a proven, innovative play-caller and strategist, who isn't afraid to open a game with seven straight passes, if that's what it means to keep the defense off-balance.

While Weis does not have NFL head coaching experience, he has as good an idea of how to prepare an NFL team to win as any assistant coach in the NFL right now, having served as both Bill Parcell's and Bill Bilichick's offensive coordinator. Weis completely won Parcell's and Bilichick's esteem and trust...and, believe-you-me, that in itself is a ringing and clinching endorsement.

This year the Patriots have had problems starting the same two wide receivers in any game, due to a swarm of injuries...yet, the Patriots have won twelve straight games in a row. Weis' development of quarterback Tom Brady has been masterful...and amazingly fast, considering that Brady led the Patriots to a Super Bowl win in just his second year as a pro. Not bad for a sixth round draft pick...not bad at all.

Imagine what Weis could do with Ben Roethlisberger...with Josh McCown...with Preston Parsons. Imagine what kind of an impact an experienced and highly successful NFL play-caller can have on the Cardinals' potentially high powered offense. With Charlie Weis the Cardinals would be putting the progress of the offense in the right hands. Even if Weis hires an offensive coordinator...Weis can always grab the reins and call the plays. That's the coaching edge the Cardinals have so desperately lacked and so desperately need more than anything else at this point.

Ironically, Jim Fassel may wind up doing the Cardinals the best favor...by taking the Buffalo job. If Fassel goes to Washington...the Cardinals will lose Weis to Buffalo. Tom Donohoe loved his recent interview with Weis and has been trying not to tip his hand. If Donohoe can't land Fassel, Weis is his man.

Rod Graves and Mike Bidwill say there's a plan in place. How about a plan to develop a franchise quarterback?...and if that's the case...why not get the best developer of young quarterbacks they can get? A Weis decision is needed...now...more than ever.
 

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Walter,

Excellent post. I personally want Fassel. For some reason, I have this gut feeling that he's not coming here, and that to me is a shame. I think he would be the perfect fit to teach McCown or Eli/Ben. It's a no brainer and I would love to see the Cards be pro-active on this and make it happen, throw money at the guy like it's water. Somehow I just don't see that happening and I see them dragging their feet on this.

On the other hand I think Green is an inept moron, and I truly believe he is not "creative" or a good head coach. I believe the Vikings won in spite of him, and the coordinators had as much responsibility with their winning as anyone. That and having Culpepper, Moss, Carter, and Robert Smith on offense. I agree with you in that if he was such a "genius" than why has he not had any offers until now. Gotta give some credit to him for going after Moss when no one else would, but then again Moss is known as much for his off the field behavior as he is for his on the field performance.

If we land Green I'm gonna be sick.

Weis is another guy who to me is a no-brainer. Why he or Fassel are not signed already is perplexing. One of the seven teams is going to hire a head coach first, why not us. For once, be the first one out of the chute. Be like Snyder. People always say Snyder gets what Snyder wants. So be like Snyder. (That's not to say dress like a dork and look like you snuck away from the baby-sitter in daddy's car so you could watch a football game, but you get the idea)
 

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If we can't land an experienced head coach like Fassell or Green, then Weis is almost certainly the best candidate available. Romeo Crennel and Lovie Smith are good choices as well, but would need to rely on an offensive mind to develop our young talent. Unfortunately, the Cardinals have not announced that they have interest in Weis - - a shame.
 

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Weis would be ok. He did help make Brady what he is today (even though a lot of people still don't give Brady the credit he deserves). I like his plays too. He really knows what he's doing when it comes to making the most of each player's talents. Just, please, if he becomes the head coach, don't let him call the plays. He create these awesome plays but he never knows when to call them. Leave that much to whoever the OC is. I've seen all but a couple of the Patriots games this year, and he makes stupid calls.

Just like to make my point here:

Against the Colts, 3:23 left to go and the Patriots have the ball with the lead. Weis calls 3 pass plays in a row instead of running out the clock. Brady fumbled on one of those plays and luckily it rolls out of bounds... If it wasn't for that one-yard stand by the defense, Weis would have been called an idiot.

And against the Jets. All the Patriots need is to get into field goal range to make it a 2 score game. Weis calls the end around pass that gets picked off. A stupid call when you want to take time off the clock and get a field goal. The run was working great too, 6.5 yards a carry... why Weis... why :p

He's lucky the Patriots defense step it up and save him. I just hope if he comes here, he would let the OC make the calls. He has talent, but I would question if he really could be great for this team. Our defense is so young and inexperienced. I think the defense needs more help than the offense does. Now Crennel... I really like what he has done (he also has great scouting abilities), but that's another story :)
 

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Originally posted by HarleyRider
Weis is another guy who to me is a no-brainer. Why he or Fassel are not signed already is perplexing.
Weis can't be signed yet. Patriots are in the playoffs. We could have shown interest in him and interviewed him, but that's only because of the bye the Patriots had. We, or any other team, can't actually make a decision on him yet. So if we don't hire a coach until after the playoffs... you can almost be sure it's going to be Weis, Crennel, Johnson, or some unproven no-namer that the Cards usually end up getting ;)
 

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Weis would be a solid choice, but he's an EAST COAST guy who would like to stay close to home (New Jersey). Buffalo would be a great fit, whereas NY is looking for a defensive oriented HC. I don't buy the notion that Fassel would look at the Cardinal opening as a career ending debacle. The organization was in worst shape when he accepted the OC position back in 96, yet it was a decision that CATAPULTED him to where he is now. I agree regarding fan support in Buffalo & Washington, but Snyder is a negative. With a new stadium, if Fassel can turn this around, the fans of AZ will show up in droves. Furthermore, with the exception of perhaps Buffalo, all the ownerships have a bad reputation. Al Davis is difficult to work for as is Snyder in Washington. The ownership in Chicago is pretty bad also, just ask Jauron, as they left him out to dry. Fassel has worked for Bidwill & actually ENJOYED it. I believe we have an advantage in that area. Buffalo is a good fit for Jim & ownership is solid, but I really think that Fassel wants to be back on the west coast, just as Weis prefers the east coast. Maybe I'm swigging on the Kool-Aid, but I think the Cardinals have a decent shot at Fassel. The way I see it:

AZ - Fassel
Buffalo - Weis
Oak - ???, Davis is to weird to even guess
Atl - Lovie
NYG - Crennel
Wash - Dennis Green
Chic - possibly Saban, but I doubt it
 

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I don't know, it's getting trick to call, especially here.

I think if Washington was to pick up Green, it would have happened already. I think if Fassel really wants to come here, he can get this job, but I think Green and Fassel are neck and neck at the front office. The reason is that I think Rod Graves really likes Green's demeanor and probably his preparation for the interview.

If it does end up being between Fassel and Green, we win either way in my mind. If we get neither, I HOPE we can get someone like Weis, but it is a bigger risk than someone with prior head coach experience (esp when Graves and M. Bidwill are new to this stuff also).
 

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Originally posted by schel
Weis would be ok. He did help make Brady what he is today (even though a lot of people still don't give Brady the credit he deserves). I like his plays too. He really knows what he's doing when it comes to making the most of each player's talents. Just, please, if he becomes the head coach, don't let him call the plays. He create these awesome plays but he never knows when to call them. Leave that much to whoever the OC is. I've seen all but a couple of the Patriots games this year, and he makes stupid calls.

Just like to make my point here:

Against the Colts, 3:23 left to go and the Patriots have the ball with the lead. Weis calls 3 pass plays in a row instead of running out the clock. Brady fumbled on one of those plays and luckily it rolls out of bounds... If it wasn't for that one-yard stand by the defense, Weis would have been called an idiot.

And against the Jets. All the Patriots need is to get into field goal range to make it a 2 score game. Weis calls the end around pass that gets picked off. A stupid call when you want to take time off the clock and get a field goal. The run was working great too, 6.5 yards a carry... why Weis... why :p

He's lucky the Patriots defense step it up and save him. I just hope if he comes here, he would let the OC make the calls. He has talent, but I would question if he really could be great for this team. Our defense is so young and inexperienced. I think the defense needs more help than the offense does. Now Crennel... I really like what he has done (he also has great scouting abilities), but that's another story :)

Great post!

Admittedly, I haven't watched hardly any Patriots games this year, my opinion was derived mainly from what Mortensen and Pasquerelli have written. You've changed my stance on him some, but I still believe in light of what Michael Bidwill and Rod Graves are saying about truly wanting to "change things" than it is IMPERATIVE that we get someone in who can develop a young QB. That is what we are going to have next year, one way or the other.

Thanks for the insight!
 

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Convincing argument to some degree but I don't buy the supposition that we necessarily need an offensive minded coach. Our defense gave up more points than any and need the most fixing. What this team does need is the credibility an established coach brings which is why I prefer Fassel. Green may or may not have baggage all the baggage that has been alluded to but I doubt he is as desperate as you say. Still. hard to see Bidwill going in that direction. If we don't get fassel then I will be happy with Lovie, Weis, or Creenel.
 

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Weis reportedly knocked Donoghue's socks off in the Buffalo interview. Weis and Bledsoe are supposedly tight.

While a move to Buffalo by Fassel does seem logical (and in Jim's interest), I think Weis has the inside track.
 

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Originally posted by jmt
Convincing argument to some degree but I don't buy the supposition that we necessarily need an offensive minded coach. Our defense gave up more points than any and need the most fixing.
I agree that we need help on defense more than we need on offense, but really we need help with both (surprise :p). This season, the Cardinals have allowed the most points in the NFL, but at the same time we scored the least amount of points too. So we're dead last in both categories. But as far as potential goes, I trust our offense more than our defense. That's mainly the reason I'm hoping for a defensive minded coach.
 

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i been on the weis bandwagon since week 13. i like weis for the simple reason he produces with what he has on the field. both starting wr go out with an injury, and the passing game didn't miss a beat. weis is awsome. that is why he first on the list.
 

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I only know 1 thing about these coaches for sure. Who ever turns the cards around will be able to name his own salary later.
 

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Not sure about Green and assistants, one of the articles in the SJ paper today says that Green is known for hiring good assistants and that works against him because it leaves people wondering how much was him and not the assistants. Billick of course being the prime example of that, when he was there everyone said he was the genius of that offense, he's been gone for years and unable to put together much of an offense in Baltimore, but Green and now Tice have kept a good offense in Minnesota proving if you have talent, you will probably be ok.

Green is certainly not perfect but I would be quite happy with him or Fassel if we're going to hire a "recycled" ex coach.

Weis and Heimerdinger appeal more to me because they're experienced at making the best with what they have, they understand that you build the system around the players you have, not the other way around. Just look after the draft last year when I asked the question of why is Jerry Sullivan talking about running a Rams offense with a deep throwing QB when we have no deep threat Wr's and a OL built to run the ball? Weis or Heimerdinger won't make that mistake, they'll design the system around the talent.

Not that Green or Fassel couldn't do that too I just don't think they've necessarily had to, Green had superior talent at WR he just needed a QB who could throw a spiral, Fassel was never really able to establish an offensive identity for the Giants, wanted to be a run team, didn't succeed, became a passing team, didn't succeed. They won with good defense and basically if you really look turnovers. the years they were good they didnt' turn it over, the years they weren't good, they DID turn it over, his offense was pretty bland.
 

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I'm not sold on WEis at all. Everyone forgets to mention that he has the benefit of having the best defensive staff in football which takes alot of pressure off the offense.Nobody was clamoring at the end of last year and this year's teams success can be put squarely on the shoulders of the defense.He may turn out to be a great HC but to think that he doesn't have any question marks is overlooking the obvious.
 

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Originally posted by Cbus cardsfan
I'm not sold on WEis at all. Everyone forgets to mention that he has the benefit of having the best defensive staff in football which takes alot of pressure off the offense.Nobody was clamoring at the end of last year and this year's teams success can be put squarely on the shoulders of the defense.He may turn out to be a great HC but to think that he doesn't have any question marks is overlooking the obvious.

I totally agree. The thing is that, if you look at the New England offense, who do you see? N O O N E is the correct answer. Troy Brown? Please. David Givens? Um, all right. Antowain Smith? Yeah, I guess. Tom Brady? Whatever. That offense gets it done, and is tailored to the strengths of the players involved, players improve in it (I don't like Tom Brady, but he's gotten better year after year), and it's tailored to other teams' weaknesses and -- I love this part -- ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS. The offense has gotten better as the season has progressed, as well, and that's on the coach. Finally, I think that he's pretty independant on his side of the ball, with Belicheck and Crennel on the defense, and so he's kind of like a semi-head coach already.
 

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Walter,

I posted the Article for you. Let me know when you have more stuff and I can put them up for you.

Mike
 

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