Adrian Wilson goes "ALL PRO"

[Shane]

http://blog.azcardinals.com/2010/01/14/a-dub-goes-all-pro/

Nice! Surprising there is no Fitz though.

 

[Buckybird]

http://blog.azcardinals.com/2010/01/14/a-dub-goes-all-pro/

Nice! Surprising there is no Fitz though.

Hats off to #24

Fitz's stats were average for him other than TD's , no big plays virtually all season.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Hard to argue Welker given the year he had... But there's that Andre Johnson dude again...

 

[Southpaw]

Tough to argue with Andre Johnson and Wes Welker picks.

 

[Shane]

I can argue Wes Welker. While he had 123 catches which is awesome. He only averaged 11.0 yards per catch (163rd in NFL) and with all of those catches only had 4 TD's. Those #'s IMO are pretty pedestrian. Just as an example Q averaged 12.2 and had 5 TD's in 40 less catches. (no I dont think Q should be on all pro team)

I think Fitz with his his league leading TD's would be far more deserving. JMO.

 

[82CardsGrad]

I can argue Wes Welker. While he had 123 catches which is awesome. He only averaged 11.0 yards per catch (163rd in NFL) and with all of those catches only had 4 TD's. Those #'s IMO are pretty pedestrian. Just as an example Q averaged 12.2 and had 5 TD's in 40 less catches. (no I dont think Q should be on all pro team)

I think Fitz with his his league leading TD's would be far more deserving. JMO.

Shane, argue all you want, but Welker's 123 receptions were 2nd ALLTIME! He is incredibly clutch and I would bet a huge number of those catches were for 3rd down conversions... IMO, he was a shoe-in...

 

[Shane]

Shane, argue all you want, but Welker's 123 receptions were 2nd ALLTIME! He is incredibly clutch and I would bet a huge number of those catches were for 3rd down conversions... IMO, he was a shoe-in...

Dont worry I will. 163rd in the league in YPC? only 4 TD's? No way he is all pro IMO. I would rather have the guy with closer to 100 catches and 13 TD's on my team all day long. Its not just the # but what you do with them. Fitz clearly does more with them.

 

[Shane]

Heck I think this guy deserved it more than Welker.

http://www.nfl.com/players/milesaustin/profile?id=AUS467198

 

[joeshmo]

Shane, argue all you want, but Welker's 123 receptions were 2nd ALLTIME! He is incredibly clutch and I would bet a huge number of those catches were for 3rd down conversions... IMO, he was a shoe-in...

Welker 123 catches, 71 of them for 1st down.
Fitz 97 catches, 69 of them for 1st down.

Just to show how much better Fitz was:

Welker - 57.72% of his catches went for a 1st down.
Fitz - 71.13% of his catches went for a 1st down.

 

[Shane]

Welker 123 catches, 71 of them for 1st down.
Fitz 97 catches, 69 of them for 1st down.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Fitz got only 8 votes.

 

[Shane]

Fitz got only 8 votes.

WOW! I guess the voters prefer fluff over substance. Like 82.

 

[Southpaw]

Saw Patriots without Welker against Ravens. That was awful. They doubled Moss all game. Welker makes every part of their offense better.

 

[Shane]

Saw Patriots without Welker against Ravens. That was awful. They doubled Moss all game. Welker makes every part of their offense better.

Pats looked bad in several games this year with Welker. One game does not a season make. Dude is overrated by the writers who vote.

 

[joeshmo]

Saw Patriots without Welker against Ravens. That was awful. They doubled Moss all game. Welker makes every part of their offense better.

Moss was getting doubled/blanket coverage all season long with or without Welker. Because you cant double cover bubble screens and short slants.

 

[john h]

Fitz

Hats off to #24

Fitz's stats were average for him other than TD's , no big plays virtually all season.

Even when Fitz does not have big stats he remains a very big plus. Other teams have to make plans to scheme against him. More often than not there are two guys on him. Even when there is only one like Woodson the other guys in the defense make subtle changes in the direction of Fitz. Players like him are a force regardless of what stats they produce in a given game. He opens it up for other receivers in nearly all games. From all I can see he is a prolific blocker. Time and time again I see him tying up a DB to allow our runners to gain yardage. As a blocker he sure gets an A+ for me as a wide receiver.

 

[Shane]

As a blocker he sure gets an A+ for me as a wide receiver.

All of our WR's are VERY good blockers. bot Fitz and Q excel at it. Stevey and even Doucet have learned well from those two. I have even seen Urban make some good blocks when he was getting more PT.

 

[john h]

Dont worry I will. 163rd in the league in YPC? only 4 TD's? No way he is all pro IMO. I would rather have the guy with closer to 100 catches and 13 TD's on my team all day long. Its not just the # but what you do with them. Fitz clearly does more with them.

All things considered such as size, speed, brains, jumping ability, hands, age, blocking ability, leadership there is no receiver in the NFL I would trade Fitz for. He still has a lot of years ahead of him and I hope they are all with the Cardinals. Dennis Green was sometimes an idiot as a coach but he will forever be remembered by me as the guy who brought Larry Fitzgerald here. At the time I thought it was a dumb move to draft him at that high pick. Was I ever wrong. He is also the consummate good guy who gives a good face to our organization.

 

[Southpaw]

Moss was getting doubled/blanket coverage all season long with or without Welker. Because you cant double cover bubble screens and short slants.

I didn't say Welker was double covered.

 

[82CardsGrad]

WOW! I guess the voters prefer fluff over substance. Like 82.

I really don't care how you choose to view it, 123 receptions is not fluff. Fitz should've gotten more votes for sure. And of course you can argue that he should've gotten the nod over Welker. But I can see a case for Welker as well.

 

[john h]

All of our WR's are VERY good blockers. bot Fitz and Q excel at it. Stevey and even Doucet have learned well from those two. I have even seen Urban make some good blocks when he was getting more PT.

I also think as a group they are mostly big guys. They announcers were talking about Urban the other day and noted he was 6'3" and that most of our receivers were big as in tall and strong. All this time I have been watching Urban I thought he was aorund 6' tall. It also seems that none of them are afraid to take it over the middle. Sort of unusual we have stock piled all these receivers and that they are all capable of starting. Last year we threw a lot of long receptions. The other teams have responded to this with different defensive schemes which is why we are seeing a lot shorter passes than last year. Warner and the coach are going to take what the defense will give them and that seems to be over the middle. Warner with his quick release, deadly accuracy, and reading of the defense eats this up. With Boldin in there you have two guys who could demand double coverage and we have to many receivers who are to good for that to work. Doucet with that marvolus catch and run last week for a TD was a keeper on my HD.

We all have been so spoiled with Warner and our large corps of receivers for the past two years are going to have some serious adjusting to do one day soon. If Warner retires (50/50 imho) do you think that Matt will be our starter next year? They may want to give him a full season before giving upon him which will bring us back to a .500 team I think while he adjust or if he ever can adjust. As I recall the Cowboys last big time QB lost 11-12 games his first year. I wish Matt would be replaced but I do think to be fair both to ourselves and him that he should be put out there when Kurt leaves for at least 6-7 games to see what he can do knowing that Kurt is not on the sidelines. Then who wants to give up on any season after winning two back to back division titles and going to a superbowl? The coaches see Matt every day and they should have a good idea if he is a keeper or not? This is going to be a tough call. When does his contract expire?

 

[Shane]

I really don't care how you choose to view it, 123 receptions is not fluff. Fitz should've gotten more votes for sure. And of course you can argue that he should've gotten the nod over Welker. But I can see a case for Welker as well.

Fitz has only 2 less 1st down receptions 69 to 71 in 26 less receptions as has already been pointed out by Joe. Fitz has 13 TD's compared to 4. Seems to me like there is a whole lot more fluff in those catches compared to Fitz. Fitz clearly does more with the ball when he has it. 160+ in YPC?

To each their own.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Fitz has only 2 less 1st down receptions 69 to 71 in 26 less receptions as has already been pointed out by Joe. Fitz has 13 TD's compared to 4. Seems to me like there is a whole lot more fluff in those catches compared to Fitz. Fitz clearly does more with the ball when he has it. 160+ in YPC?

To each their own.

Geez Shane... I am the Fitz guy. You're the Boldin guy, remember?? LOL!

Look, who is the #1 option in the red zone when it comes to throwing for a TD for the Cards?
And who is the #1 option in the red zone when it comes to throwing for a TD for the Pats?

You almost can't compare Welker and Fitz as, not only are they totally different physically, but they all but play totally different positions/roles...
Welker is the run game the Pats don't have. He's their main 3rd down threat. And he is also their main 1st and 2nd down guy... He's the guy that gets them into 2nd and 3rd down and shorts...

 

[Mitch]

This is an awesome honor for Adrian Wilson. I am so proud of him and it comes in a year when there was supposed to be a Super Bowl let down and he had just re-signed a new contract, so it wasn't like he was playing for a contract. This epitomizes Wilson's character...his resolve to be a part of the solution in Arizona...and one of the major reasons why the Cardinals are in the thick of things in the middle of January.

As for Fitz, I think he would tell us, by his own standards, that he was not deserving of All-Pro this year. However, let's realize that after last year's lights-out playoffs performance, Fitz was double teamed every game this year even as he ran out of the tunnel. So, in light of that, for him to still lead the league in TDs and be so clutch on 3rd down situations, I think he deserves the honor. Wes Welker was never double teamed all year...not to say that he wasn't deserving, but he is a slot WR, and that's a little different than being a #1 WR. Andre Johnson is an absolute stud...and I firmly belive he and Fitz are the bellweather WRs in the league.

The other Cardinal who deserved to be an All Pro was P Ben Graham. As long as I've been playing, coaching and watching football, I have never seen anything like the performance he's turned in this year. It was joy to watch other games and notice that time after time the other teams' punters couldn't pin the ball inside the five yard line anywhere close to what Graham does.

And I think that Darnell Dockett deserved the award as well. The thing is, he's considered a DE because of the 3-4, but we all know he's a DT, and he is about as disruptive, productive and sudden as any DT in the league. Even though I have the utmost appreciation for Adrian Wilson and am delighted he got his due recognition, to me the defensive MVP of the Cardinals this year has been Darnell Dockett, and I really don't think it's close.

 

[Duckjake]

Even though I have the utmost appreciation for Adrian Wilson and am delighted he got his due recognition, to me the defensive MVP of the Cardinals this year has been Darnell Dockett, and I really don't think it's close.

Hats off to both of them and to DC Bill Davis.

The 2009 season is only the 3rd time since the Cards moved to Arizona that they haven't finished in the bottom 10 in either points or yards allowed. They gave up 101 fewer points in '09 than in '08 moving from 28th to 14th in that category.

Good job guys.