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Jaber Rouzbahani
Birthdate: 5/10/86
NBA Position: Center
Ht: 7-5
Wt: 260
Int Team: Zob Ahan
Hometown: Isfahan, Iran
Giant Steps: Jaber Rouzbahani

Strengths: Huge frame and (8 foot) wingspan. Truly a giant. Plays like a center. Great shot blocking potential. Has a soft touch out to 12-15 feet. Because he hasn't had any real basketball coaches work with him, his potential to develop quickly is very good. He has a great attitude, really wants to improve. Compeitive, will go hard to the basket even when being pushed around or fouled.

Weaknesses: Language barrier. Has a tanslator, but still has a long ways to go to learn the English language. Raw skills. Iran did not give him many things to work on in terms of fundamentals. The past three months he has been working on a hook shot. Running the court, he has below average mobility, something close to Ghorge Mueresan, but it should improve from where it is now. He can get up and down the court ok, but starting and stopping take time for him.

Notes: Can grab the rim flatfooted and dunk on his tippy-toes. First began playing basketball at age 14. Played for the club team and went on to play with the National Team in several tournaments. Played against Yao Ming in an Asian tournament during the summer. Averaged 12 points 8 rebounds, and 7 blocks at the WJC in Greece of 2003.
 

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I imagine the one-on-one battles he had with the fellas at 46th St. & Tehran Blvd. were legendary.
 
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Actually, if the Suns stay at #7... my choice is...

1.) Sebastian Telfair. The Suns have to really determine if Barbosa is going to be their true point man for the next few years. Telfair is already really good.

If the Suns do end up shipping JJ, then they have to protect themselves. Adding a Telfair will bring another dynamic to this team. Telfair playing alonside (TMac/Kobe/Amare). That's some serious firepower. It's also wishful thinking.

2.) J.R. Smith. Seems to be a superstar in the making. Vince Carter-like abilities.

3.) Josh Childress. Pac-10 player of the year can play right away. A smart, scrappy, solid shooting winner. Stanford doesn't come close to making their run without him.
 

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This guy's background screams "summer league". :hulk:

Sly Fly's list feels like reaching for me. If these guys (Telfiar, JR, and Childress) are worth having, the Suns should trade down to the middle round.

My read on them is:

Childress MIGHT get taken early, but I'm not sure he is really a guard and I doubt he is a great fit.

JR is a great prospect, but he is really raw as would be expected from a HS player.

Telfair is not likely to go before the 20's, he is too small and not a good enough shooter.
 
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George O'Brien said:
This guy's background screams "summer league". :hulk:

Sly Fly's list feels like reaching for me. If these guys (Telfiar, JR, and Childress) are worth having, the Suns should trade down to the middle round.

My read on them is:

Childress MIGHT get taken early, but I'm not sure he is really a guard and I doubt he is a great fit.

JR is a great prospect, but he is really raw as would be expected from a HS player.

Telfair is not likely to go before the 20's, he is too small and not a good enough shooter.

Ahhh, my retort...

Childress- Doesn't matter if he's a guard, forward, center, or tight end. He's a player. The NBA needs more of these.

JR Smith- Yes, he's young and wild. But, if you're going to reach... might as well take someone who has unlimited potential. It's only a matter of time before JR Smith is playing in the All-Star game.

Telfair- Small won't matter for this guy. Allen Iverson-like qualities. The kid has been tearing up East Coast playgrounds since he was 2'3". People that say he is too small and can't shoot will regret it. Plus, he's better at creating for his bigs. Something Amare would love. And, this is something PHX DOES NOT have right now.
 

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sly fly said:
Ahhh, my retort...

Childress- Doesn't matter if he's a guard, forward, center, or tight end. He's a player. The NBA needs more of these.

He may prove to be a top player, but Childress has not demonstrated that he can be a dominant one (at least not to me). I have a feeling he is one of those guys who do well in college in a great system, but don't make the jump in status. In terms of academics as well as basketball, Stanford is a bit too much like Duke for my taste.

JR Smith- Yes, he's young and wild. But, if you're going to reach... might as well take someone who has unlimited potential. It's only a matter of time before JR Smith is playing in the All-Star game.

The jury is still out on whether he has the overall game to be a solid NBA player, much less a star. Will he be able shoot when playing against guys who are four to six inches taller, twice as fast, and have great defensive footwork? JR is not the athletic freak that Josh is, so if his shooting is not there he could struggle for quite a while.

Telfair- Small won't matter for this guy. Allen Iverson-like qualities. The kid has been tearing up East Coast playgrounds since he was 2'3". People that say he is too small and can't shoot will regret it. Plus, he's better at creating for his bigs. Something Amare would love. And, this is something PHX DOES NOT have right now.

Iverson can shoot. Too often in my mind, but he is a scorer. Telfair is strictly a distributor. Also, in a head to head matchup with Livingston, Livingston pretty much shut him down and no one expects Livingston to be a top defender right away.

The real comparison should be to TJ Ford who is also small. Ford was reasonable successful running the Bucks until he was hurt. At 160 pounds, Telfair is lighter than Ford.
 

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Telfair is a pretty good shooter for his age I thought. He is supposedly very good in the transition game something the Suns need.

Anyway here is my pick
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Given the Suns' checkered history with Marbury, I don't think they'll consider Telfair. Just too suspicious.

Besides, the franchise is now undertaking their second brand-new direction change in three years, and even though Telfair's game is different from his cousin's, most fans would just think of him as "Marbury lite." It would be like the Suns were admitting that they made a mistake in trading Marbury.
 

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sly fly said:
I imagine the one-on-one battles he had with the fellas at 46th St. & Tehran Blvd. were legendary.

Thanks guys. These two posts put a smile on my face that is likely going to last the rest of the evening. LOL! :)

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sly fly said:
Telfair- People that say he is too small and can't shoot will regret it.

When Jason Kidd first came to Phoenix wasn't he called Ason because he had no "j"?
 

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This guy will be the ugliest player since Reggie "Quark" Miller.
 

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Assface said:
When Jason Kidd first came to Phoenix wasn't he called Ason because he had no "j"?

He still is called Ason. In fact, that very name describes one of the main reasons the Nets lost their playoff series to the Pistons.
 

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Assface said:
When Jason Kidd first came to Phoenix wasn't he called Ason because he had no "j"?

I heard the NBA beat writer for the Bloomberg News on the radio today. He talked for a second about Sebastian Telfair. He said he would be surprised if Telfair is even 5'9" tall. Jason Kidd has great size for a point guard. If he was a better sure he would be one of the very top players in the NBA.

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If Telfair is 5'9 what is Jameer Nelson?

I think it's been well documented that Nelson is around 5'10". In that picture it certainly appears to me that he is an inch or two taller than Telfair. The guy on the radio actually said that he thinks Telfair is about 5'8". I'm not sure about that, but he is quite small.

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Joe Mama said:
I think it's been well documented that Nelson is around 5'10". In that picture it certainly appears to me that he is an inch or two taller than Telfair. The guy on the radio actually said that he thinks Telfair is about 5'8". I'm not sure about that, but he is quite small.

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For the Suns, nobody under 6 feet should be a mid-lottery pick.
 
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Telfair averaged 33 points a game as a senior and led his team to 3 straight championships.

I'm not saying he's the "ONE", but he does fit into PHX's style of play.

I think Amare would love to have him.

We don't need the point to score, anyway. All we need is someone to push the ball, get by defenders, and create in the opencourt.

That being said, the NBA will test him defensively. I think Earl Boykins may even try to post him.

Speaking of Boykins, PHX lacked that spark plug off the bench. Perhaps a Telfair could provide this.

I still need to see more video and here more about his visits, but I still stand behind my pick (for now).
 

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BTW

I was reading that Luke Jackson outplayed Iguodala in private workouts in Chicago.

I read on realgm today that JR Smith couldn't outjump Luke Jackson in the vertical test and people said JR Smith was a Vince Carter...
 

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slinslin said:
BTW

I was reading that Luke Jackson outplayed Iguodala in private workouts in Chicago.

I read on realgm today that JR Smith couldn't outjump Luke Jackson in the vertical test and people said JR Smith was a Vince Carter...

I have a whole lot of trouble believing that JR Smith could not outjump Luke Jackson. Smith's vertical was supposed to be around 44". Even supposing that's exaggerated by 6" that still leaves him with a 38" vertical leap. I have trouble believing Jackson's vertical is anywhere near that high because, well, he's white. :)

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