another coach bites the dust

[elindholm]

The Celtics' Jim O'Brien "steps down."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1720254

 

[slinslin]

Ainge pulls an Ainge on OBie.

 

[George O'Brien]

If I were Jim (I probably wouldn't be writing on the Suns board ), I would have philosophical differences with Ainge too like "What on earth are you doing?"

Maybe Jim should have done more to keep Baker off the sauce, but Ainge's trades have not been very impressive.

 

[Chaplin]

Byron Scott's next job just opened up. Coincidence? I think not.

 

[sunsfn]

elindholm,

Sorry about the other thread..........!
I must have been putting it on while you were finishing yours.......

I deleted my thread...........

 

[George O'Brien]

I am surprised. I was just sure it would be Stotts after the Suns killed the Hawks this evening.

 

[elindholm]

elindholm,

Sorry about the other thread..........!

Oh, no problem there, I don't get territorial with my threads. I knew that a few people would be trying to get a post up, but it doesn't really matter if there are multiple threads on the same topic. At least, not to me it doesn't.

I had to think carefully about whether to try to include the link, because I knew that would slow me down in the race to be first...

 

[George O'Brien]

Originally posted by elindholm
[I knew that would slow me down in the race to be first...

Hey, no one told me about the race. Why didn't anybody tell. me? How do you win?

 

[carey]

Originally posted by George O'Brien
Hey, no one told me about the race. Why didn't anybody tell. me? How do you win?

Actually you've already won. Since you post about 50 times per day they decided to have a seperate race to see who comes in second.

 

[George O'Brien]

Originally posted by carey
Actually you've already won. Since you post about 50 times per day they decided to have a seperate race to see who comes in second.

Hey, I resemble that remark.

 

[slinslin]

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[sunsfn]

In regards to the Celtics trade of past years........one of the biggest mistakes was them trading JJ to the suns. As I understand the suns asked for Kedrick Brown and the celtics would not give him up so the suns took JJ...........whoop dee doo...!

Kedrick may work out some day but we know JJ is working out.

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

I dont think there was ever an official thing about that, although I do know they asked about both players.

Doesn't matter though, we got the better player for sure.


THe worst by far is the Vin Baker trade. And the Raef Lafrentz most likely wont be very good either.

 

[George O'Brien]

Originally posted by thegrahamcrackr
THe worst by far is the Vin Baker trade. And the Raef Lafrentz most likely wont be very good either.

The Vin Baker deal was pure blunder (prior to Ainge though). It is hard to tell if the LaFrentz deal would have made sense if he had been healthy. Considering that he had a history of injuries, this deal was questionable from the beginning.

The key deal that pushed Obie to the door was the Ricky Davis trade. This was a classic case of reading stat sheets rather than watching the guy play. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

 

[elindholm]

Actually the Baker trade doesn't look too bad now, because the alcohol issues mean the Celtics get to void his contract. Now they're out from under his salary, which is a good thing.

 

[George O'Brien]

Originally posted by elindholm
Actually the Baker trade doesn't look too bad now, because the alcohol issues mean the Celtics get to void his contract. Now they're out from under his salary, which is a good thing.

That would put them about $5 million under cap. Now they can re-sign Chris Mihm.

 

[F-Dog]

I guess I must be the only one who likes what Ainge is doing in Boston. That team was going nowhere and wasting the prime years of Paul Pierce's career in the process when Ainge got there; now, at least, there's some slight hope that the franchise will be a contender before Pierce retires or moves on to another team.


For fairness' sake, I admit that I found the Celts under O'Brien to be pretty much unwatchable.



Let's see, what was Ainge asking O'Brien to do, anyway?

--play young, talented players instead of relying on mediocre veterans playing heavy minutes
--stop constantly playing small ball (McCarty was starting at PF)
--teach the players to play man-to-man defense instead of relying on a complex, trapping zone
--get out and run instead of staying bogged down in half-court sets


What I wonder is, where could Ainge have gotten all of these crazy ideas?

 

[George O'Brien]

Originally posted by F-Dog
I guess I must be the only one who likes what Ainge is doing in Boston. That team was going nowhere and wasting the prime years of Paul Pierce's career in the process when Ainge got there; now, at least, there's some slight hope that the franchise will be a contender before Pierce retires or moves on to another team.

For fairness' sake, I admit that I found the Celts under O'Brien to be pretty much unwatchable.

Let's see, what was Ainge asking O'Brien to do, anyway?

--play young, talented players instead of relying on mediocre veterans playing heavy minutes
--stop constantly playing small ball (McCarty was starting at PF)
--teach the players to play man-to-man defense instead of relying on a complex, trapping zone
--get out and run instead of staying bogged down in half-court sets

What I wonder is, where could Ainge have gotten all of these crazy ideas?

If you pay a coach to win, he will focus on winning. Playing really young players does not lead to wins. Just ask Mike.

In any case, I still don't buy into the Ricky Davis trade. I will be very surprised if it works out.

 

[Joe Mama]

It might not have been a mistake to get rid of Walker, but taking Raef LaFrentz and his contract in return was stupid. I was actually surprised that Marc Cuban finally made a deal to get rid of a bad salary instead of taking more of them on.

Joe Mama