Another Johnson at point article

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I'm hoping this also means that we will see less Howard Eiseley. I defended Eisley when the Suns first acquired him, but I can't stand to see him on the court anymore. Every once in awhile he'll get a nice run the going, but most of the time he dominates the ball without a lot of good results.

At the end of this article it says that 2 or 3 of the top 5 teams in steals will end up missing the playoffs. IMO this is because the aggressive defense that often leads to steals also leads to a lot of penetration from the perimeter and open big men near the basket. Unless the team has good shot blocking and rebounding upfront I think teams are better off playing sound the maybe not as aggressive defense. The Suns perimeter players in particular are far too aggressive given the lack of shot blocking and rebounding in the middle.

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http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/0312sunsnb0312.html

Bigger lineup begins with Johnson at point

Paul Coro
The Arizona Republic
Mar. 12, 2004 12:00 AM


There was a time when Phoenix dreaded seeing a big point guard named Johnson. Joe Johnson loved those Showtime years when he idolized the Lakers' Magic Johnson and wants to bring a piece of that to today's Suns.

Joe Johnson, at 6 feet 7, will get more time at point guard over the final 18 games as the coaches tinker with a bigger Suns lineup, helping his ball handling and aggression.

He ran the point for the final 20 minutes of Monday's loss at Dallas. The Suns outscored the Mavericks 39-32 with Johnson at point. He had 10 points, four rebounds, three assists, three turnovers and a steal in those 20 minutes.

"I really love making my teammates look good and making people better," Johnson said. "It helps me out a lot because I feel like I can create my own shot when I get ready. I can also get in the paint and make things easier for the big men."

Suns coach Mike D'Antoni said he is able to get Zarko Cabarkapa on the floor more with Johnson at point. He said it also would help Johnson's court awareness and involvement.

Johnson was on a tear from Jan. 7 to Feb. 4, a stretch in which he averaged 23.1 points and shot 50.3 percent from the field. Since Amare Stoudemire returned to the starting lineup Feb. 6, Johnson has averaged 16.3 points and shot 40.6 percent.

"Joe was really going, and now that Amare is back, Joe's tailed off a bit," D'Antoni said. "I think sometimes he gets lost a little bit in the thing. Keeping him involved as a point guard might help find some juice.

"He's got to run the team, and he's got to be more vocal. I think if he can learn the point-guard position, maybe it'll make him a better two-guard."

As Johnson emerged after the Knicks trade, he showed an ability to fill up the box score in ways anyone from a point guard to a small forward would. He said getting minutes at point guard has re-energized that aggression.

"I'm in the flow, and I'm running with the ball," Johnson said. "It gets me pumped up and gets my juices flowing."


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Keon Clark, acquired in Phoenix's Feb. 19 trade of Tom Gugliotta to Utah, will not play this season because he must continue rehabilitation of his right ankle. After playing two games for Utah, Clark had November surgery to remove bone chips from the ankle.


• The Suns scrimmaged in front of a group of Gila River Indian Community youths Thursday and signed autographs for them after practice.


• The Suns rank fifth in the league in steals. Two or three of the top five teams will not make the playoffs.
 

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Originally posted by Joe Mama
I'm hoping this also means that we will see less Howard Eiseley. I defended Eisley when the Suns first acquired him, but I can't stand to see him on the court anymore. Every once in awhile he'll get a nice run the going, but most of the time he dominates the ball without a lot of good results.


I agree 100%


I have concluded from watching him, Eisley is not a very good passer. He is a decent shooter when he is open but he spends way too much time dribbling and not enough time passing.

He makes some good vereran plays out there but I want to see Eisley, McDyess, and White relegated to situational duty. I want the bulk of the playing time to go to the young players for the last 18 games.
 

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I don't watch games live and haven't seen recent games but a complaint I have is Eisley forcing shots at end of periods (30-40 secs left). 2 for 1 is nice but when the shot is forced and no chance of making shot - it can get frustrating.
 

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I haven't seen recent +/- numbers, but it certainly appears that the Suns do not play as well when Eisley is in the lineup. He does not push the ball on the break, he looks for his own shot first, and he shoots too much for a guy who has a bad shooting percentage.
 
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Re: Re: Another Johnson at point article

Originally posted by SirChaz
I agree 100%


I have concluded from watching him, Eisley is not a very good passer. He is a decent shooter when he is open but he spends way too much time dribbling and not enough time passing.

He makes some good vereran plays out there but I want to see Eisley, McDyess, and White relegated to situational duty. I want the bulk of the playing time to go to the young players for the last 18 games.

I agree about Eisley and Antonio McDyess , but I don't mind seeing White out there. In fact I think they should play him a lot more. For the most part when he gets decent minutes he makes the best out of them. Yes, George, we know he is slow, but I think he's a better defender than either of the other centers. He's much better on the boards and creating space for the other frontcourt players to rebound. There's a good chance he won't be around after this season, but I think you first he is going to increase his value.

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Originally posted by Joe Mama
I agree about Eisley and Antonio McDyess , but I don't mind seeing White out there. In fact I think they should play him a lot more. For the most part when he gets decent minutes he makes the best out of them. Yes, George, we know he is slow, but I think he's a better defender than either of the other centers. He's much better on the boards and creating space for the other frontcourt players to rebound. There's a good chance he won't be around after this season, but I think you first he is going to increase his value.

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Actually I'm guessing that his slowness is why White isn't playing. I would like to see him play more because I like what he does.

BTW, I know that White has a reputation for having hands of stone, but it sure looked like that would describe Jake against the Jazz. I swear he funbled at least and perhaps three direct passes in the paint. Also, I watch him when he would set picks, he would not even look at the guy with the ball. Neither guy seems solid with the ball in their hands.
 
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Originally posted by George O'Brien
Actually I'm guessing that his slowness is why White isn't playing. I would like to see him play more because I like what he does.

BTW, I know that White has a reputation for having hands of stone, but it sure looked like that would describe Jake against the Jazz. I swear he funbled at least and perhaps three direct passes in the paint. Also, I watch him when he would set picks, he would not even look at the guy with the ball. Neither guy seems solid with the ball in their hands.

George, I really think you may be putting too much emphasis on White's lack of speed. It really isn't a problem unless he's playing against a center with a decent midrange/outside shot. There just aren't that many of them around the NBA, and that may be when you get Lampe in the game. I like White because he blocks out his own man and then some on the boards, he's a good rebounder himself, and he is an intimidating presence on defense. No, I don't think he is an ideal center, but IMO he's the best one on the Phoenix Suns roster right now. And like I said before, if they do want to unload his salary this summer playing him will almost certainly only increase his worth.

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Originally posted by Joe Mama
George, I really think you may be putting too much emphasis on White's lack of speed. It really isn't a problem unless he's playing against a center with a decent midrange/outside shot. There just aren't that many of them around the NBA, and that may be when you get Lampe in the game. I like White because he blocks out his own man and then some on the boards, he's a good rebounder himself, and he is an intimidating presence on defense. No, I don't think he is an ideal center, but IMO he's the best one on the Phoenix Suns roster right now. And like I said before, if they do want to unload his salary this summer playing him will almost certainly only increase his worth.

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The biggest problem I have with the Suns centers is they cannot seem to get into position to stop guys driving the basket from getting easy scores. On a team that does not have perimeter players who can keep their guys out of the paint, this inability of the Suns centers to react quickly enough is a huge defensive liability.

Jake tries, but he is constantly an instant slow. I swear he must lead the league in blocking fouls. White is even slower. Neither are athletic enough to block shots from the side, so if they are late they either give up the shot or foul.

BTW, Amare has the quickness to play the paint at center, but he lacks the vision and awareness to play an area rather than just a man. He might see more action at center next year, but it will require a lot of training to make him effective on defense.
 
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