Any interest in Embiid?

[JCSunsfan]

Philly seems to be ready to move him. I would be interested.

1. He is a young athletic center with superstar prospects.
2. He has the athleticism and learning curve to play pf.
3. He has a foot injury issue, that makes him attainable.

Are there any other rumblings that would be the reason why he is on the market?

 

[Finito]

7 footers with bad feet are a no no.

There is a reason he's available

 

[AzStevenCal]

7 footers with bad feet are a no no.

There is a reason he's available

Yes but it's not the injuries, they knew about those when they drafted him. It's the concern over maturity level and work ethic that has them reevaluating his future with their team. At least that's what's being rumored.

Steve

 

[elindholm]

7 footers with bad feet are a no no.

True, although Len is beating the odds so far, knock on wood.

 

[slinslin]

Embiid's condition is much more severe.

 

[overseascardfan]

Supposedly dude is up to 300 pounds. I know he can't run but he can eat healthy. He weighed 250 at KU so putting on 50 pounds in a year can't be healthy particularly if you have a bum foot.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Embiid's condition is much more severe.

Is it? I thought the real long term concern was the stress fracture in the back but that's almost identical to what Drummond went through. A lot of teams are kicking themselves now for passing on that guy.

I have no idea if I'd go after Embiid. It would require a total buy-in from the medical/training staff before I'd even consider it and even then he would have to be discounted. If we had to pay full price (multiple firsts) I'd let someone else take that trip.

Steve

 

[JCSunsfan]

I would risk it. Feet can heal, and can do ok long term. He might have put on the weight, but young guys who are inactive for the first time in their lives, and with lots of money to spend, can do that. If his character seems good, the upside would be alot to pass up.

 

[slinslin]

Is it? I thought the real long term concern was the stress fracture in the back but that's almost identical to what Drummond went through. A lot of teams are kicking themselves now for passing on that guy.

I have no idea if I'd go after Embiid. It would require a total buy-in from the medical/training staff before I'd even consider it and even then he would have to be discounted. If we had to pay full price (multiple firsts) I'd let someone else take that trip.

Steve

As far as I know there still is a piece of metal in his foot to stabilize whatever was broken.
I don't think that would be necessary if there is not something seriously wrong with it.

At the least Embiid seems injury prone and he has not played a minute. Philly wants a top 5 pick for him, no way I would give that up before Embiid goes out there, plays and plays decently. He might be the next Oden or even just Thabeet.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Supposedly dude is up to 300 pounds. I know he can't run but he can eat healthy. He weighed 250 at KU so putting on 50 pounds in a year can't be healthy particularly if you have a bum foot.

Recent vid of him doesnt seem to indicate that he is that much overweight.

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[AzStevenCal]

Recent vid of him doesnt seem to indicate that he is that much overweight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROc8jk53ANM

He denied the 300 pound rumor a few weeks ago too.

Steve

 

[overseascardfan]

Recent vid of him doesnt seem to indicate that he is that much overweight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROc8jk53ANM

He denied the 300 pound rumor a few weeks ago too.

Steve

He could have lost some of the weight, the rumor was he went back to Cameroon so there is no telling if the rumor is was true. He looks bigger than 250 in the video. Point is unless PHI is looking to draft Okafor, why would they trade Embiid or Noel who is also rumored to be on the block?

 

[AzStevenCal]

He could have lost some of the weight, the rumor was he went back to Cameroon so there is no telling if the rumor is was true. He looks bigger than 250 in the video. Point is unless PHI is looking to draft Okafor, why would they trade Embiid or Noel who is also rumored to be on the block?

There are concerns about Embiid's work ethic even if the weight issue was overblown (and I have no idea if it was or wasn't overblown). As for Noel, I suspect they've learned he isn't quite the player they hoped he'd be. I guess they are just going to keep swinging for the fences until they hit a home run. If the guy they draft is just a double or even a triple, they look to move him so they can get a few more swings at the fence.

Steve

 

[Phrazbit]

Basically the Sixers are playing hearts... and trying to shoot the moon every round.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Basically the Sixers are playing hearts... and trying to shoot the moon every round.

It seems like it. They are gathering as many draft picks as possible hoping to hit on the superstar. I think the problem with that is that they could draft a superstar and not know it.

The new Clippers. That's how Donald Sterling ran his team for decades.

 

[AzStevenCal]

It seems like it. They are gathering as many draft picks as possible hoping to hit on the superstar. I think the problem with that is that they could draft a superstar and not know it.

The new Clippers. That's how Donald Sterling ran his team for decades.

I don't think so. In fact, I think they are far from the Sterling era Clippers who appeared to have no strategic plan other than to avoid handing out large paychecks. Hinkie and company are doing some very smart things, I just think they made a couple of mistakes along the way. They've taken a long term approach to becoming a championship contender and that's impossible to evaluate through a short term lens.

Steve

 

[slinslin]

They did not have lottery luck

2013 they picked only 5th
2014 they picked only 3rd

It is a smart move to keep tanking until you have your franchise player and when that point comes you start using your ressources to start winning.

Then you can have a few terrific young players on rookie contracts and a lot of capspace to lure legitimate stars to your team.

Imagine New Orleans had 2 other lottery picks around Anthony Davis and major capspace.

 

[Covert Rain]

No way that guy is 300 so don't know when that rumor started. If he really has a work ethic problem? IMO that is much harder to deal with versus someone who is having some physical challenges. I mean this staff can work with that. Usually guys who have work ethic problems? That doesn't seem to ever go away.

Is there a more recent article on his injuries?

 

[JCSunsfan]

No way that guy is 300 so don't know when that rumor started. If he really has a work ethic problem? IMO that is much harder to deal with versus someone who is having some physical challenges. I mean this staff can work with that. Usually guys who have work ethic problems? That doesn't seem to ever go away.

Is there a more recent article on his injuries?

I am not sure how you can gauge a work ethic problem. There was no peep about such an issue when he was at Kansas (as far as I know). He seemed to be developing week-to-week at Kansas, so I assume it took work to make that kind of progress.

Maybe he didn't hit the rehab as hard as the team would have liked. Not sure. Maybe he got depressed or something. I just don't see the "knickle-headedness" that you see in players who are chronic problems.

To me, his upside is Hakeem and if you have a chance, you go get a player like that.

 

[Covert Rain]

I am not sure how you can gauge a work ethic problem. There was no peep about such an issue when he was at Kansas (as far as I know). He seemed to be developing week-to-week at Kansas, so I assume it took work to make that kind of progress.

Maybe he didn't hit the rehab as hard as the team would have liked. Not sure. Maybe he got depressed or something. I just don't see the "knickle-headedness" that you see in players who are chronic problems.

To me, his upside is Hakeem and if you have a chance, you go get a player like that.

Thanks JC, some good insight.

 

[DWKB]

With the Morrii, Thomas Robinson, and now Embiid all being cut down this place is like the Missouri Tigers of the NBA.