Anyone Still Interested In Music?

[KingLouieLouie]

I apologize for a lame thread such as this, however, am wondering if anyone still is interested in music.. especially discovering newer talents.. or those who might be foreign to you?

I know I used to post about several bands on here, but some times I felt like I over satuated this forum and that might have inhibited people from posting/lurking here...

There are just several bands I hope to post about, however, just wanted everyones feedback before I resort that.. I know it's lame.. however.. well.... it's an excellent outlet and very enjoyable....

This is not meant to be a poll obviously, just wanted everyone's input.....

 

[devilalum]

I used to be so into local music back in the 80's.

I lived with the Ginblossoms when they were putting the band together. We lived right down the street from the Meat Puppets. I used to go to the "Speciman Jar" at least 3 nights a week to see live music, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Jetzens whatever.

Oh well, lived in Tucson in the early 90's and haven't been to a club in about 10 years.

 

[NEZCardsfan]

I used to be so into local music back in the 80's.

I lived with the Ginblossoms when they were putting the band together. We lived right down the street from the Meat Puppets. I used to go to the "Speciman Jar" at least 3 nights a week to see live music, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Jetzens whatever.

Oh well, lived in Tucson in the early 90's and haven't been to a club in about 10 years.

This post makes me miss the Refreshments.

 

[Chaplin]

This post makes me miss the Refreshments.

Listen to Roger Clyne and the Peacemakers!

 

[blindseyed]

I love hearing about music, unfortunately most everything coming out today can't be classified as music. Someone breathing into a mic while saying words is NOT singing (Brittny Spears, Jessica Simpson) and alot of the 3-chord bands that the corprate radio wants everyone to listen to is killing real music. They get 1 band and clone it with 826 other bands that sound exactly like it. I call 'em Lego bands cuz you can interchange all the members of all the bands and get the same band!! Doesn't anyone get tired of the same chord?? And what kills me most are bands that put out 'unlpugged' CD's who have NO business singing into a mic. They get this false sense of confidence since they've been over produced in the studio and all at once they actually think they can sing!! Ugghhh...the music award shows are proof of bands that just have no talent...
OK I'm done with my rant....

 

[boisesuns]

I love hearing about music, unfortunately most everything coming out today can't be classified as music. Someone breathing into a mic while saying words is NOT singing (Brittny Spears, Jessica Simpson) and alot of the 3-chord bands that the corprate radio wants everyone to listen to is killing real music. They get 1 band and clone it with 826 other bands that sound exactly like it. I call 'em Lego bands cuz you can interchange all the members of all the bands and get the same band!! Doesn't anyone get tired of the same chord?? And what kills me most are bands that put out 'unlpugged' CD's who have NO business singing into a mic. They get this false sense of confidence since they've been over produced in the studio and all at once they actually think they can sing!! Ugghhh...the music award shows are proof of bands that just have no talent...
OK I'm done with my rant....

Agree completley!!!!!

 

[Pariah]

Nah. Music is just a fad. In 10 years we'll be like, "what were we thinking?"

 

[KingLouieLouie]

I guess most people tend to listen to music now more in the background than before since several bands dont stand-out....

True.. I've touched about this subject at ad nauseam, however, MTV again destroyed music w/style over substance.... If the band doesnt possess some sort of visual appeal, then they immediately get casted aside from the general public because they were generally dismissed from the mainstream medium...

I could sit here and mention all these bands though that no one has probably heard of or discuss newer releases that probably many arent aware of whatsoever, but want to know if anyone else would be interested.. I admit some times it appeared that I was just merely "posturbating" when I discussed several bands since I noticed there werent too many hits or replies to them.....

 

[Mr.Dibbs]

I think music is pretty cyclical, and right now it is at a low point, just like it was at the end of the british invasion, disco, hair metal, rap/rock, grudge, etc. Everything is repetitive and corporate.

Some small scene is some weird part of the U.S. or the world will create a new, fresh sound- and then music will be fun again- until that sound suddenly becomes repetitive and corporate. See the cycle?

 

[KingLouieLouie]

I think music is pretty cyclical, and right now it is at a low point, just like it was at the end of the british invasion, disco, hair metal, rap/rock, grudge, etc. Everything is repetitive and corporate.

Some small scene is some weird part of the U.S. or the world will create a new, fresh sound- and then music will be fun again- until that sound suddenly becomes repetitive and corporate. See the cycle?

Yeah.. agreed.... I mentioned that on several occasions.. especially driving the point home on this thread: http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=40508&highlight=grunge
Especially in this post: http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/showpost.php?p=726619&postcount=33

The main drawback now in which if a band tries to create a newer/fresh sound.. it still gets dismissed because no one is willing to accept/embrace it... Therefore, I dont believe they're be another musical revolution again... that's why so many now tend to revert back to the past w/their taste... or also getting into genres that they didnt focus on before.. such as Jazz or Blues....

Usually it would be at this time during a decade that a new genre could create such a buzz or excitement..... However... there doesnt seem anything apparent on the horizon.... so.. most music will be just played in the background....

Television and movie industry have generated more of an interest than music by leaps and bounds..... Again.. I could post about some underground bands that most probably havent already heard.. or discuss those that seldom receive any attention... but just dont want to do it for only my own sake, but for others as well.....

 

[Mr.Dibbs]

Therefore, I dont believe they're be another musical revolution again... that's why so many now tend to revert back to the past w/their taste... or also getting into genres that they didnt focus on before.. such as Jazz or Blues....

There will be another muscial revolution- every generation has one it some form. IMO, music always resorts to the past, and then incorporates something new creating the "musical revolution." It also tends to come from a economically strapped or exploited part of the U.S. or world. Pissed off musicians tend to be the most creative.

Also the fact that some music isn't accepted is what makes it so great to a small group of people. Then the people who are "looking for the next cool thing" start to listen to it, and then it gets popular, gets radio play, and then becomes corporate and repetitive. Who would have thought that "gangsta rap" would become mainstream? It slowly became popular becuase it initially wasn't accepted.

 

[AZ Shocker]

I think System Of A Down is pretty "fresh".
They've blended a lot of appealing textures. They're all over the place...crazy, insane, then very melodic and pure. I like 'em.

 

[KingLouieLouie]

There will be another muscial revolution- every generation has one it some form. IMO, music always resorts to the past, and then incorporates something new creating the "musical revolution." It also tends to come from a economically strapped or exploited part of the U.S. or world. Pissed off musicians tend to be the most creative.

Also the fact that some music isn't accepted is what makes it so great to a small group of people. Then the people who are "looking for the next cool thing" start to listen to it, and then it gets popular, gets radio play, and then becomes corporate and repetitive. Who would have thought that "gangsta rap" would become mainstream? It slowly became popular becuase it initially wasn't accepted.

I hope you're correct... I guess I've become cynical on this very subject and have discussed it ad nauseam to the extent that I tire myself out from posting in this forum......

We currently live in the informational age w/so much technology at our disposal, however, for some reason one area in which could have already enhanced and elevated the music industry to newer heights keeps on getting restricted.. which is file-sharing..... True... people should purchase music, but I'm referring to strictly for the use of collaboration.... Just imagine someone uploading their own music that they created.. let's say from India... they incorporate their country's traditional style as authentic as it possibly can be and then send it out to someone in a country such as Israel...and then that person combines their music onto w/that and so forth....

I guess.. since everything has become so global.. I would think the same could apply to music.... That's where the next revolution/movement could evolve, but of course it's become limited due to all the government intervention that has imposed upon it tremendously....

Also.. so many artists dont want to become mainstream because then they have to eventually conform and sell-out.... That's why several of the bands that have emerged over the past decade havent had much sustained success.. that they fade and eventually break-up.. that's again because of alienating their loyal fans that they attained that cult-following and became pigeon-holed.....

I still contend the best music is currently produced in the UK, however, unfortunately people conjure-up the image of ColdPlay when it pertains to Britpop.. which is quite sad since they're inferior compared to the other bands, but of course.. have some image that captivated the masses... again.. it's that image over substance that I've constantly brought-up over and over again....It's quite a shame.....

I hope that Radiohead's new album due out w/in the near future lives-up to its expectations since that alone can help salvage music....

Again.. I hope you're right that at the moment some genre is being created in someone's garage or personal studio, but woudlnt it be something if it was something global? Then the possibilities would be limitless and there never would be another lull in music again.....

 

[Mr.Dibbs]

There's already a lot of global sharing going in the world of dj's. If you read some of the stuff in REMIX magazine (you should be able to get a free subscription if you Google it long enough) these djs bring their portable studios everywhere picking up different sounds. Unfortuneately, 90% of djs find a cool loop and just put it to a generic dance beat instead of really being creative.

 

[KingLouieLouie]

I think System Of A Down is pretty "fresh".
They've blended a lot of appealing textures. They're all over the place...crazy, insane, then very melodic and pure. I like 'em.

I loved System of a Down on their first 2 albums, but since it seems that most of their music is quite forced... Tankian's vocals tends to get annoying after awhile, but I would agree that it's different from most of what's out there today....

There's already a lot of global sharing going in the world of dj's. If you read some of the stuff in REMIX magazine (you should be able to get a free subscription if you Google it long enough) these djs bring their portable studios everywhere picking up different sounds. Unfortuneately, 90% of djs find a cool loop and just put it to a generic dance beat instead of really being creative.

Yeah.. but you brought-up toward the end of that post regarding the main drawback of getting generic/simplistic opposed to creative/sophisticated....

I guess my aim in my previous post was a style similar to what Cornershop does w/Punjabi....They're a Brit Pop band that combines techno along with Indian flavorered music... it's unique and beautiful.. just hearing that compelling sitar with some hip-hop type beats is just refreshing... I would love for more of that type of influence.... That's what impressed me of what Paul Simon did w/his "Graceland" project by taking South African influences w/his deep rooted Folk style.. Or David Byrne doing more World Beat music..... Thats something that the musicians expanded their boundaries and absolutely dont compromise anything....... I wish those musicians received more exposure, but if they did.. they would be straying away from their objectives......

 

[Chaplin]

I guess my aim in my previous post was a style similar to what Cornershop does w/Punjabi....They're a Brit Pop band that combines techno along with Indian flavorered music... it's unique and beautiful.. just hearing that compelling sitar with some hip-hop type beats is just refreshing... I would love for more of that type of influence.... That's what impressed me of what Paul Simon did w/his "Graceland" project by taking South African influences w/his deep rooted Folk style.. Or David Byrne doing more World Beat music..... Thats something that the musicians expanded their boundaries and absolutely dont compromise anything....... I wish those musicians received more exposure, but if they did.. they would be straying away from their objectives......

There is a TON of stuff like that out there.

 

[Redrage]

I loved System of a Down on their first 2 albums, but since it seems that most of their music is quite forced... Tankian's vocals tends to get annoying after awhile, but I would agree that it's different from most of what's out there today....



Yeah.. but you brought-up toward the end of that post regarding the main drawback of getting generic/simplistic opposed to creative/sophisticated....

I guess my aim in my previous post was a style similar to what Cornershop does w/Punjabi....They're a Brit Pop band that combines techno along with Indian flavorered music... it's unique and beautiful.. just hearing that compelling sitar with some hip-hop type beats is just refreshing... I would love for more of that type of influence.... That's what impressed me of what Paul Simon did w/his "Graceland" project by taking South African influences w/his deep rooted Folk style.. Or David Byrne doing more World Beat music..... Thats something that the musicians expanded their boundaries and absolutely dont compromise anything....... I wish those musicians received more exposure, but if they did.. they would be straying away from their objectives......

I tend to like music from the meaner side of the spectrum. That said, The Mars Volta impress the hell out of me. It's a departure from my normal taste but I suggest to anyone out there, that if you want to check out something new and original pick up their album "Francis the Mute." It took me a couple of listens to reall appreciate it, but I've been listening to it nonstop for almost a week now.

 

[blindseyed]

I think System Of A Down is pretty "fresh".
They've blended a lot of appealing textures. They're all over the place...crazy, insane, then very melodic and pure. I like 'em.

Worst singer of all time, off key in everything he does. Not to mention lyrically just makes fun of Americans and people who listen to them. Another example of non-talented 'vocalists' making it. What got me was when they said Americans deserved Sep 11th, but somehow people just forget that. Another "Another Anti-American band that ******* and moans about everything but never offers and viable solution to anything. I hate that band with a passion.

 

[vince56]

+1 to everything you just said, bud. SOAD sucks hard. Worst vocalist to make it in rock history ever IMO.

 

[KingLouieLouie]

I tend to like music from the meaner side of the spectrum. That said, The Mars Volta impress the hell out of me. It's a departure from my normal taste but I suggest to anyone out there, that if you want to check out something new and original pick up their album "Francis the Mute." It took me a couple of listens to reall appreciate it, but I've been listening to it nonstop for almost a week now.

Yeah.. I love Mars Volta and Sparta.... but just wish they all would reform At The Drive-In....

I just love Britpop, Electro, Indie, or the style of music that both the Strokes and Interpol play.....

There are a couple of albums I recommend that many check-out right now... One is Gomez's newest release "How We Operate" and the former lead-singer of Verve, Richard Ashcroft's "Keys To The World"... both outstanding indeed.....

 

[AZ Shocker]

+1 to everything you just said, bud. SOAD sucks hard. Worst vocalist to make it in rock history ever IMO.

But yet they "made it".
Not totally disagreeing with you, but they are "fresh" sounding. They seem like "old school" guys who know the recepi for success. The kids these days want "insane" and they gave it to 'em. Insane! lol

Anytime a band with 30-somethings comes along and makes kids go crazy...I'm down with that. I wish my band could do the same, but everyone involved (except me of course lol ) is stuck in a time warp from which they came (80's and 90's type sound). Most of the musicians I know who play locally are so close, but stuck. So close they don't know it. Sad...