Arians is the offensive Buddy Ryan

[Cards_Campos]

He brags and talks a big game. We looked better on offense...but he has completely neglected the defense. His friend cant scheme 4th grade pee wee defense. We had no pressure...whatsoever....think about if Honey Badger didn't mke a great play...they would have scored more. Just like Buddy Ryan Arians talked it up...and we fell for it. Our offense couldn't score 14 points under Ryan....and our defense was great. Now we can score 24+ but our defense looks horrible.

His cocky 3rd down and 2 call is a Buddy Ryan too....made no sense why to call it....If we make the first the game goes to OT at worse case.

Levi Has to be cut this week....I don't care if it cost 10 million to do it. Because Palmer will be Kevin Kolb in a few more games with him playing LT.

 

[LDL]

Seriously dude...

 

[Finito]

Oh stop.

 

[HotSauce]

That 3rd and 2 call was awful.

 

[AZ Native]

 

[Russ Smith]

That 3rd and 2 call was awful.

I loved that call it was wide open but as usual Levi got beat so Palmer had to rush the throw and didn't make a good throw. If he can hold that a bit longer it might have been a TD.

 

[Bodha]

Offense looked great

D looked serviceable




If not for Levi and Arenas, we wouldve won. Simple as that

 

[HotSauce]

Offense looked great

D looked serviceable




If not for Levi and Arenas, we wouldve won. Simple as that

Great is probably a bit strong given they only scored 17 points.

 

[Cards_Campos]

and.....everyone else won...so we are really behind.

 

[Cheesebeef]

i've actually got no problem with that call...it was Palmer's AWFUL throw...which he had a lot of in the second half that was the problem.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I loved that call it was wide open but as usual Levi got beat so Palmer had to rush the throw and didn't make a good throw. If he can hold that a bit longer it might have been a TD.

exactly. Ellington was behind the defense but the timing was off.

 

[HotSauce]

Will have to agree to disagree on that 3rd and 2.

That play wasn't nearly high percentage enough given the circumstances, IMO.

 

[Bodha]

Great is probably a bit strong given they only scored 17 points.

compared to last year, this is the greatest show on turf p.2

dont rain on my parade

 

[AzStevenCal]

and.....everyone else won...so we are really behind.

Yes but we're behind because we should be behind. We aren't very good and magical calls by the Head Coach aren't going to change that. I can't be the only one that thought we looked like the second best team out there today?

I expected the Cards to be horrible this year. Unless today was a fluke, we're merely bad not horrible and that might change when we get our best defensive player back on the field. It's going to take awhile to get enough talent in town to compete with the better teams in this league and losing our best defensive player and our number one pick is a tough way to start off for this new regime.

Steve

 

[Darkside]

i've actually got no problem with that call...it was Palmer's AWFUL throw...which he had a lot of in the second half that was the problem.

Palmer started to look skittish to me after Levi gave up his second strip-sack. This worries me almost as much as the defense, which I thought was awful.

I really didn't like the 3rd and 2 call though. Thought it was too aggressive at that time, given how much time was left in the game. It was open, but was high risk. If we just get a first down we go to OT worst case. But its a tough call, you're either aggressive or not, gotta take the good with the bad.



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[D-Dogg]

Palmer started to look skittish to me after Levi gave up his second strip-sack. This worries me almost as much as the defense, which I thought was awful.

I really didn't like the 3rd and 2 call though. Thought it was too aggressive at that time, given how much time was left in the game. It was open, but was high risk. If we just get a first down we go to OT worst case. But its a tough call, you're either aggressive or not, gotta take the good with the bad.



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Agreed, I'm good with it. If it is properly blocked, it's likely 6 and our winning probability skyrockets. I love the go-for-it mentality. Going to be an entertaining season (finally).

 

[Cheesebeef]

Palmer started to look skittish to me after Levi gave up his second strip-sack. This worries me almost as much as the defense, which I thought was awful.

I really didn't like the 3rd and 2 call though. Thought it was too aggressive at that time, given how much time was left in the game. It was open, but was high risk. If we just get a first down we go to OT worst case. But its a tough call, you're either aggressive or not, gotta take the good with the bad.



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he started to look skittish around the time he ALWAYS looks skittish...when the chips are down and the game is on the line.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Palmer started to look skittish to me after Levi gave up his second strip-sack. This worries me almost as much as the defense, which I thought was awful.

I really didn't like the 3rd and 2 call though. Thought it was too aggressive at that time, given how much time was left in the game. It was open, but was high risk. If we just get a first down we go to OT worst case. But its a tough call, you're either aggressive or not, gotta take the good with the bad.

I know you're saying "worst case" but OT was something we desperately needed to avoid. I have no problem with the call especially since it only failed because of execution not design.

Steve

 

[JeffGollin]

Seriously dude...

No, no, no and no.

If BA were "the offensive Buddy Ryan", we'd come out throwing long 80% of the time.

Late in the 4Q, they put a graphic on the screen that showed our ratio of running plays to passing plays pretty close to even, with a slight edge - like (53/47 - to passing plays.

 

[LDL]

No, no, no and no.

If BA were "the offensive Buddy Ryan", we'd come out throwing long 80% of the time.

Late in the 4Q, they put a graphic on the screen that showed our ratio of running plays to passing plays pretty close to even, with a slight edge - like (53/47 - to passing plays.

My apologies for not having the sarcasm emote in there. Cuz the OP is utter garbage.

 

[Russ Smith]

Will have to agree to disagree on that 3rd and 2.

That play wasn't nearly high percentage enough given the circumstances, IMO.

But that's why we hired Bruce Arians in the first place. He doesn't coach by percentages, he goes for the kill. Palmer made a bad throw in part due to Levi not giving him enough time. If the players execute there it's a brilliant call.

I never fault the coach when the play is actually open and you just miss it.

Palmer wasn't as good in the 2nd half I suspect in part because he knew he couldn't trust Levi to protect him.

 

[Snakester]

Offense looked great

D looked serviceable




If not for Levi and Arenas, we wouldve won. Simple as that

Spot on except don't forget Arians. What an idiot. Good OC but idiot head coach.

 

[Russ Smith]

I know you're saying "worst case" but OT was something we desperately needed to avoid. I have no problem with the call especially since it only failed because of execution not design.

Steve

I also think there's an element of Arians doesn't trust his kicker and doesn't trust his defense so he thinks he HAS to go for the big play there?

They were going to have too long if we go for a safe play and it doesn't work. If you go to OT the team with the better K has a huge advantage and that's clearly them.

Also don't overlook what a huge play that was by Austin to block Tyrann away before he could down the punt around the 2 yard line.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I also think there's an element of Arians doesn't trust his kicker and doesn't trust his defense so he thinks he HAS to go for the big play there?

They were going to have too long if we go for a safe play and it doesn't work. If you go to OT the team with the better K has a huge advantage and that's clearly them.

Also don't overlook what a huge play that was by Austin to block Tyrann away before he could down the punt around the 2 yard line.

Yeah, that was a huge block. As I said, I have no problem with the play call. The Rams had momentum, home field and kicker advantage and that doesn't bode well for OT.

Steve

 

[Cards_Campos]

My apologies for not having the sarcasm emote in there. Cuz the OP is utter garbage.

Dude who made you Jesus. It is my opinion. Calling me garbage should get you banned. Sorry I didn't read your book on being awesome.

I cant wait to read your insight on how to improve us...I will get out my crayons to enjoy that.

secondly...my thread isn't based on us throwing 80 times....it is the fact he thinks the offense is the only thing important. The play call was arrogant at the time. We had nothing to gain even if we scored on it...because I see the Rams scoring too because they would have had tons of time. We needed to march down and kick a 30 yard fg with not time left.