Arians to Cardinals fans: ‘It ain’t worth’ selling your tickets

[BigRedRage]

sold out for like ten years straight right??..... Ticket brokers.............they buy the tickets,...get the sellouts,...keep the team on tv....are there 40k fans hanging out in the parking lot wishing they could get in to the game?

it sucks brokers will sell to just anybody with a buck,....but they and the team have a symbiotic relationship.

we could sell out without the brokers IMO

 

[crisper57]

sold out for like ten years straight right??..... Ticket brokers.............they buy the tickets,...get the sellouts,...keep the team on tv....are there 40k fans hanging out in the parking lot wishing they could get in to the game?

it sucks brokers will sell to just anybody with a buck,....but they and the team have a symbiotic relationship.

The blackout rule no longer applies. Struck down. Not legal.

 

[Shane]

I asked for 3 and they reserved me ten at first when the waiting list first started prior to the stadium being ready

Once again you prove how ignorant they are… However I reserved 4 and was offered 4 wonder why they offered you 10???

 

[BigRedRage]

Once again you prove how ignorant they are… However I reserved 4 and was offered 4 wonder why they offered you 10???

yeah not really sure. I only put the regular down payment down and they offered me up to ten and I said ok, hold ten for now and ill try to find others.

of course we sucked still and no one was interested.

 

[oaken1]

The blackout rule no longer applies. Struck down. Not legal.

right.

even so,...think NBC wants to air a prime time game at a stadium with only 5000 fans in the seats??
I know that would never really happen in Glendale,...but it may be happening again soon in New Orleans.

my point was simply the team benefits from those sellouts rather the fans are there for the Birds or the niners.....they still buy food and drinks, foam fingers etc,...and make the stadium show well on tv with a big crowd.......and the brokers assure the sellouts, and assume the risk if the tickets do not sell.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

right.

even so,...think NBC wants to air a prime time game at a stadium with only 5000 fans in the seats??
I know that would never really happen in Glendale,...but it may be happening again soon in New Orleans.

my point was simply the team benefits from those sellouts rather the fans are there for the Birds or the niners.....they still buy food and drinks, foam fingers etc,...and make the stadium show well on tv with a big crowd.......and the brokers assure the sellouts, and assume the risk if the tickets do not sell.

It won't happen in New Orleans.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Arians doesn't want the roof open either and stands on the field and tells you its louder with it closed. That it gives a better home field advantage. You don't seem to care about his opinion on that Brian???

I've never seen his opinion on that.

The roof was closed every home game last season. The only NFL game with the roof open was the Super Bowl.

It's only been open twice this season - both wins.

Searching for Arians, Cardinals, UOP, noise, roof, open, closed, etc. only returns this - a dig on the home crowd being TOO loud.

For a second straight press conference, Arians noted that the offensive line had some communication issues because of crowd noise at University of Phoenix Stadium. Asked if that meant the crowd needed to learn to quiet down when the Cardinals are on offense, Arians said “yeah. And keep their tickets.”

 

[MadCardDisease]

I would say that 15-20% of the seats are owned by ticket brokers.

When I initially selected my seats at the new stadium, I was given the opportunity to buy additional seats in the second round. The Cardinal season ticket sales guy was pressuring me to buy additional seats as an investment.

While this philosophy worked in the short term, it back fired in the long run. Now large blocks of tickets are owned by brokers and there is nothing they can do about it.

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[kerouac9]

someone should tell him that brokers are the problem, not cardinal fans. It makes the fans look bad when he and local radio talk about it and never even consider that brokers own a large % of season tickets to our stadium and sell to the highest bidder.

Out of towners are going to be willing to pay much more than arizonans will considering arizonans can choose from 10 games a year, not one.

I'd like to see this substantiated in some way. For a season I worked for the Big Red Service Team (does this still exist?) and helped to call every single season ticket holder — three hour shifts at a time and would call dozens if not hundreds of people. There were a handful of ticket brokers on the list, but let's not pretend that there are three or four entire sections of them.

It's perfectly easy to acquire "protect the nest" plans for the "good" home games, and plenty of walk-up tickets still available. If anything, the brokers may be buying those.

Mostly, I think it's a problem of the Cards not selling their fan experience well enough locally. I think you have a lot of season ticket-holders and a lot of transplants. The season-ticket holders go to every game; the transplants go to one game every few years. The Cards need to do a better job of churning the Cardinals fans who would come to one game a year and make that experience something they'd repeat every year or every other year — regardless of opponent.

Every team needs to do a better job of that. My kids loved going to a D-backs game as part of a club level promotion/upgrade from my dad's season tickets — they didn't offer that last year.

 

[DeAnna]

Probably not

I would bet money that the fan selling tickets is a very small percentage compared to the brokers. Wait until he sees the Green Bay turnout. If the organization really cares, they should weed out brokers but maybe they don't have the oversight to even understand that is the true problem.

Yeah, I'm getting really tired of those bozos blaming Cardinals' fans for selling their tickets. That is just a SMALL minority. It's thousands of seats held by brokers that are the problem.

When playoffs come around, all those brokers' seats behind the visitors bench are usually in Cards gear since (and correct me if I'm wrong) the brokers don't have access to playoff tickets. At least it didn't seem that way in 2008/2009.

 

[Iceman]

Ticket prices are way too high to start with and that probably has to do with the brokers. I am a long time Cards fans (like the rest of you on here), but here is an example of what people are going through. I received 4 tickets for this Green Bay game and they are 12 rows up from the 20 yard line. Just out of curiosity I looked at NFL ticket exchange to see what they are selling for. Tickets in that section are going for a minimum of $500 per ticket now. Now, I am going to the game but I can totally back someone that has tickets and wants to sell them for 2k (before fees) especially the time it year it falls on. $2000 can go a long ways. Especially when you can watch the game in the comfort of your own home. I understand both sides of the situation. Green Bay fans are willing to pay pretty much anything to get out of Wisconsin for a weekend and it is such a valuable game for them.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

When playoffs come around, all those brokers' seats behind the visitors bench are usually in Cards gear since (and correct me if I'm wrong) the brokers don't have access to playoff tickets. At least it didn't seem that way in 2008/2009.

Why wouldn't the people/group paying for the regular season tickets have access to playoff tickets?

 

[juza76]

I'd like to see this substantiated in some way. For a season I worked for the Big Red Service Team (does this still exist?) and helped to call every single season ticket holder — three hour shifts at a time and would call dozens if not hundreds of people. There were a handful of ticket brokers on the list, but let's not pretend that there are three or four entire sections of them.

It's perfectly easy to acquire "protect the nest" plans for the "good" home games, and plenty of walk-up tickets still available. If anything, the brokers may be buying those.

Mostly, I think it's a problem of the Cards not selling their fan experience well enough locally. I think you have a lot of season ticket-holders and a lot of transplants. The season-ticket holders go to every game; the transplants go to one game every few years. The Cards need to do a better job of churning the Cardinals fans who would come to one game a year and make that experience something they'd repeat every year or every other year — regardless of opponent.

Every team needs to do a better job of that. My kids loved going to a D-backs game as part of a club level promotion/upgrade from my dad's season tickets — they didn't offer that last year.

so if they know a lot the tickets are taken by brokers,why bruce arians(i assume he knows it)calling out fans to hold their tickets?
maybe he just calling cardinals fans to acquire tickets from brokers?

 

[kerouac9]

so if they know a lot the tickets are taken by brokers,why bruce arians(i assume he knows it)calling out fans to hold their tickets?
maybe he just calling cardinals fans to acquire tickets from brokers?

I certainly hope that Bruce Arians' isn't involved in the minutiae of who is enrolled for season tickets.

 

[DeAnna]

Why wouldn't the people/group paying for the regular season tickets have access to playoff tickets?

For every playoff game, we have the option to buy extra sets of tickets. Where are they getting the inventory from? I'm guessing it's from broker's allotment.

Hmm ... maybe we should call the ticket office and find out, lol.

 

[kerouac9]

For every playoff game, we have the option to buy extra sets of tickets. Where are they getting the inventory from? I'm guessing it's from broker's allotment.

Hmm ... maybe we should call the ticket office and find out, lol.

They're from the Protect the Nest packages and single-game seating.

 

[crisper57]

And expanded seating

 

[Shane]

And expanded seating

Seating is only expanded for SB and Bowl games at UofP those added seats aren't up for regular playoff games… For the life of me i can't figure out why?

 

[Big D]

When the new stadium opened I decided to dabble a little bit into the ticket resale market for the first time. In addition to my season tickets, a buddy and I bought single game tickets to some of the games I thought would be easy to sell and yield the highest margins.

If I recall correctly, reselling tickets to 4 games alone (Bears MNF, Cowboys, Broncos, 9ers) produced enough profit to cover the cost of all the single game tickets we bout that year and a little over half of our season ticket cost. That was even with taking hits on a couple of games.

So while I didn't sell my own tickets and attended every game, I can definitely see why folks and specifically Cardinals fans would engage in an enterprise like the resale market. Personally I decided it wasn't worth the time and effort after that first year and I haven't done it since, but for those that have the time and effort to dedicate it can be very profitable.

So with all that said, if BA is directing his comments to fans that are selling their own seats, then fine, feel free to call out their fanhood. But I have the feeling his comments and ire are misdirected.

 

[juza76]

I certainly hope that Bruce Arians' isn't involved in the minutiae of who is enrolled for season tickets.

sure is not involved but he is enough intelligent to ask which is the reason the university of phoenix stadium use to have a large presence of other supporters

so arizona cardinals first goal is to sell tickets,doesnt matter if during the season they are going through this issue?

 

[WisconsinCard]

Ticket prices are way too high to start with and that probably has to do with the brokers. I am a long time Cards fans (like the rest of you on here), but here is an example of what people are going through. I received 4 tickets for this Green Bay game and they are 12 rows up from the 20 yard line. Just out of curiosity I looked at NFL ticket exchange to see what they are selling for. Tickets in that section are going for a minimum of $500 per ticket now. Now, I am going to the game but I can totally back someone that has tickets and wants to sell them for 2k (before fees) especially the time it year it falls on. $2000 can go a long ways. Especially when you can watch the game in the comfort of your own home. I understand both sides of the situation. Green Bay fans are willing to pay pretty much anything to get out of Wisconsin for a weekend and it is such a valuable game for them.

Disclaimer: I know the bar burned down.
I think there are more Packer fans in the valley then you think. I mean they have had their own bar in Cave Creek for years. That bar doesn't stay open for all of those years from people traveling to PHX from WI.

 

[Iceman]

Disclaimer: I know the bar burned down.
I think there are more Packer fans in the valley then you think. I mean they have had their own bar in Cave Creek for years. That bar doesn't stay open for all of those years from people traveling to PHX from WI.

True. That is another reason why it will be hard to ever have 95% all Cards in the stands during home games. Lots of transplants here from other states

 

[ajcardfan]

Disclaimer: I know the bar burned down.
I think there are more Packer fans in the valley then you think. I mean they have had their own bar in Cave Creek for years. That bar doesn't stay open for all of those years from people traveling to PHX from WI.

Oh, they are here. I have a student who's father played HS football here, went to the Air Force Academy and then played for the Packers. So, of course they are Packers fans, the whole family became Packers fans at that point. They are Arizonans, but when he was playing for the Packers it was basically when the Cards moved here.

 

[kerouac9]

Oh, they are here. I have a student who's father played HS football here, went to the Air Force Academy and then played for the Packers. So, of course they are Packers fans, the whole family became Packers fans at that point. They are Arizonans, but when he was playing for the Packers it was basically when the Cards moved here.

Obviously that's not the common experience.

Basically, there are a ton of midwestern transplants who came here and brought their fandom with them. The Cards sucked when their kids were growing up, and the Packers had Favre and the Vikes had Randy Moss.

Arizona teams are going to struggle to maintain a home-field advantage against Chicago, Minnesota, and Wisconsin fans for decades. My (Lutheran) church increases in attendance like 30% once the weather starts to cool off, and everyone calls the drinking fountain a "bubbler."

 

[Bert]

Obviously that's not the common experience.

Basically, there are a ton of midwestern transplants who came here and brought their fandom with them. The Cards sucked when their kids were growing up, and the Packers had Favre and the Vikes had Randy Moss.

Arizona teams are going to struggle to maintain a home-field advantage against Chicago, Minnesota, and Wisconsin fans for decades. My (Lutheran) church increases in attendance like 30% once the weather starts to cool off, and everyone calls the drinking fountain a "bubbler."

lol Thats funny.

I agree with all this and couple it with the fact that this is a tourism driven econmy here in Phx and this is our high season.

The Detroit game against the Packers recently was a great example. Someone in the thread said; There's not that many Packers fans there, lots of empty seats. To which I replied, Yes, because who the hell wants to go to Detroit? lol

So many transplants coupled with people just wanting to get out of their cold home state and come to sunny beautiful Arizona, it's just who we are.

People can come out here for the weekend and golf, shop, go swimming for gods sake, lol.