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Plain to see: Johnson no average Joe
The Arizona Republic
Jan. 21, 2004 12:00 AM


There was a hidden surprise in the box of party favors exchanged for Stephon Marbury.

It was a miniature Tracy McGrady.

It was the transformation that turned softhearted Joe Johnson into a cold-blooded gamer.

"Joe has got the 300-pound gorilla off his back," General Manager Bryan Colangelo said. "His confidence is really shining through."

If the Suns beat the Nuggets tonight in Denver, they will legitimize this four-game winning streak, accomplished against teams severely hampered by injury or general buffoonery. As it is, they already are turning down the heat on the Colangelos, seared for shipping off the team's most popular player in a midseason salary purge.

Some of this revival is just the glow of winning. Some of it is similar to the phenomenon at Bank One Ballpark last season, when a doe-eyed confluence of baby Diamondbacks captured the imagination of an unsuspecting fan base.

For better or worse, the Suns are building with a core of homegrown players who have few ties to other organizations. This represents the antithesis of an organization that once threw money at its problems, constructing a revolving door of overpaid pseudo-stars.

"I was telling my wife the other day just how different everything feels," center Scott Williams said. "The locker room is much more jovial, and guys are feeling better about each other."

The biggest difference is clearly Johnson, who has been liberated by the departure of Penny Hardaway. It's a strange twist, given the two were video-game partners and close friends off the court. It suggests something nefarious about the previous environment at America West Arena.

Johnson had been elevated to the starting lineup twice before, but it's evident he never was comfortable being Hardaway's on-court superior. It is conceivable that Hardaway might have furthered this notion when the two were away from the arena, when the impressionable young Johnson could be reminded of how big Hardaway once was. You know, big enough to have that sprawling mansion and L'il Penny filming commercials with Tyra Banks.

In sports, the line between enemy and friend often blurs. Former Knicks coach Jeff Van Gundy once said that opponents didn't want to compete too hard against Michael Jordan for fear of risking their place in Jordan's elite circle.

Two former Suns once got on a rookie named Shawn Marion for practicing too long and too hard, especially when practice had officially ended. Don't make us look bad, kid.

There is much that still smells about this trade. Like Frank Johnson's comments before he got fired, how the in-house problems stemmed from young guys who had to get theirs. He wasn't talking about Marbury, and you have to wonder where the problem truly lies.

After all, if there are young egos so formidable yet so fragile still within the group, trading Marbury was only a temporary pacifier.

But if this deal has unlocked a superstar in waiting, then the Knicks no longer can be accused of heinous theft. It's a development nearly as stunning as the trade itself, but these days, Joe Johnson has the plain name and the big game. Big enough to almost make you believe in the future.
 
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This is a very strange article. His comments about the likelyhood that Penny was playing mind games on JJ is likely to be right on target. On the other hand, his failure to even consider the possiblity that Marbury's playing style hurt the team dynamics shows how little he understands the game.

Bickley was one of the strongest critics of the trade and I suspect he is reluctant to admit it was justified and that Stephon may have been a mixed blessing.
 

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Originally posted by George O'Brien
Two former Suns once got on a rookie named Shawn Marion for practicing too long and too hard, especially when practice had officially ended. Don't make us look bad, kid.


I thought this was kinda interesting. Any idea who said that? Probably Jason Kidd and maybe Cliff Robinson?

Then again, it could just be made up, which Bickley certainly isn't beneath doing.
 
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Re: Re: Arizona Republic:plain to see: Johnson no average Joe

Originally posted by Chaplin
I thought this was kinda interesting. Any idea who said that? Probably Jason Kidd and maybe Cliff Robinson?

Then again, it could just be made up, which Bickley certainly isn't beneath doing.

Oliver Miller? (he'd count as two). :D
 

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Re: Re: Arizona Republic:plain to see: Johnson no average Joe

Originally posted by Chaplin
I thought this was kinda interesting. Any idea who said that? Probably Jason Kidd and maybe Cliff Robinson?

Then again, it could just be made up, which Bickley certainly isn't beneath doing.

I got nothing to back me, but I really doubt it was Jason Kidd. Anyhow, they could have been just joking around for all we know. Was Rodney Rogers on that team?

Frankly I think all of this Penny Hardaway-Joe Johnson stuff is nonsense. It may help JJ some that he isn't worried about being benched for Hardaway. That I can understand. But I think writers like Bickley and especially the TV people overanalyze the psychological aspect of these games. Most of the time it borders the ridiculous.

While I do think not having Hardaway looming over his shoulder has helped I think the biggest change for JJ has been Marbury's departure. JJ is not a spot up shooter. That's what he needed to be with Marbury. That's not a knock on Marbury. I just don't think they played well together. It's the reason Houston is a much better fit with Marbury.

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Re: Re: Re: Arizona Republic:plain to see: Johnson no average Joe

Originally posted by Joe Mama

While I do think not having Hardaway looming over his shoulder has helped I think the biggest change for JJ has been Marbury's departure. JJ is not a spot up shooter. That's what he needed to be with Marbury. That's not a knock on Marbury. I just don't think they played well together. It's the reason Houston is a much better fit with Marbury.

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You absolutely hit the nail on the head Joe. Ironically, Van Horn is a better fit for Marbury as well, because he's also a good spot up shooter. Houston and Van Horn's outside shooting are a major reason Marbury's assists have gone up.
 

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Re: Re: Arizona Republic:plain to see: Johnson no average Joe

Originally posted by Chaplin
I thought this was kinda interesting. Any idea who said that? Probably Jason Kidd and maybe Cliff Robinson?

Then again, it could just be made up, which Bickley certainly isn't beneath doing.

I'd bet one of them was Rodney Rogers, and maybe Cliff.
 

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Re: Re: Re: Arizona Republic:plain to see: Johnson no average Joe

Originally posted by Joe Mama
Frankly I think all of this Penny Hardaway-Joe Johnson stuff is nonsense. It may help JJ some that he isn't worried about being benched for Hardaway. That I can understand. But I think writers like Bickley and especially the TV people overanalyze the psychological aspect of these games.
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I agree with you Joe. I do think they go to seed on this stuff. But JJ did say he was uncomfortable looking over his shoulder all the time.

To me, it just indicates that JJ has a fragile psyche. We'll probably see it again sometime.

Dice had the same kind of sensitivity.
 
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Originally posted by JCSunsfan
I agree with you Joe. I do think they go to seed on this stuff. But JJ did say he was uncomfortable looking over his shoulder all the time.

To me, it just indicates that JJ has a fragile psyche. We'll probably see it again sometime.

Dice had the same kind of sensitivity.

Joe would be a rookie this year if he had stayed in school. It is common for players to be immature in the first few years. It shows up in many different ways. Just look at Stephon's early rep.
 

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With that fragile psych of his, JJ is best suited for a Pippen role with quite the same quality of talent. So, we still need Pippen's sidekick, Mike!:D :thumbup:
 
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