ASU Bowl Game

[devilfan02]

Personally, I hope we get the Emerald Bowl so we can pound the crap out of Florida State. That would be awesome!

Las Vegas to select Arizona St. or Oregon

Las Vegas Bowl officials will decide between Arizona State and Oregon to play No. 20-ranked Brigham Young on Dec. 21.

If Oregon (7-5) is selected over ASU (7-5) then the Sun Devils probably will play in the Emerald Bowl in San Francisco on Dec. 27, probably against Florida State (6-6).

A third option is the Hawaii Bowl against No. 24 Hawaii on Dec. 24. ASU will finish in a five-way tie for fourth in the Pac-10, at 4-5, if No. 2 USC beats UCLA on Saturday.

"We're not looking at a 6-6 team" to pair against Mountain West champion BYU (10-2), said Tina Kunzer-Murphy, Las Vegas Bowl executive director. UCLA would be 7-5 with a win over USC but the Bruins played in the Las Vegas Bowl in 2002 and '04. ASU has never been in the Las Vegas Bowl, which hosted Oregon in 1997.The Las Vegas Bowl gets first choice of the Pac-10 No. 4 team over the Emerald Bowl this year.

Kunzer-Murphy said she knows that an ASU-BYU game would spark interest harking back to when both schools were in the Western Athletic Conference. The Sun Devils lead the series 20-7 with the most recent meeting a 26-6 BYU victory in Provo, Utah, in 1998. ASU and BYU are scheduled to play in 2009 and 2011.

BYU starting quarterback John Beck is from Mesa and played for Mountain View High. Max Hall, who could replace Beck, also is from Mountain View and began his college career at ASU before transferring after a Mormon mission.

The Las Vegas Bowl is sold out other than the 12,000 tickets allotted to each school.

Seven-win teams are assured of a Pac-10 contracted bowl berth ahead of 6-6 teams.

It's unclear if a 6-6 team can be picked ahead of a 7-5 team provided that the seven-win team is assured of another bowl.

The distinction is important should the Emerald Bowl want to take 6-6 UCLA or Arizona ahead of ASU, forcing the Sun Devils to make the more expensive trip to Hawaii.

Florida State is 3-1 all-time against ASU. The two teams most recently met in 1984. The Sun Devils are 5-1 against Hawaii.

It's possible that bowl and school officials from the Pac-10 will agree upon bowl assignments before the USC-UCLA game.

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[Nasser22]

I'd rather play in the Emerald Bowl because Florida State is a bigger name school even though they suck. I mean, who really cares about BYU?

 

[HooverDam]

I'd rather play in the Emerald Bowl because Florida State is a bigger name school even though they suck. I mean, who really cares about BYU?

Probably a lot of people in the Valley because of our large Mormon population.

But yah, I'd rather play FSU as well. Seems like people are always saying ASU should be the FSU of the west, so maybe beating them will push us towards that.

 

[Future1984]

I AGree, i wanna see ASU play FSU

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Seems like people are always saying ASU should be the FSU of the west, so maybe beating them will push us towards that.

Nobody says that except ASU fans.

 

[HooverDam]

Nobody says that except ASU fans.

Nobody doesn't say it except the UA fans (nice double negative on my part) I've heard it from a lot of other Pac10 fans who wonder why ASU hasn't been able to develop into more of a consistent top 3 Pac 10 school.

 

[Espo]

Nobody doesn't say it except the UA fans (nice double negative on my part) I've heard it from a lot of other Pac10 fans who wonder why ASU hasn't been able to develop into more of a consistent top 3 Pac 10 school.

Because their funding for the football program is in the bottom third of the Pac-10.

 

[Zeno]

Because their funding for the football program is in the bottom third of the Pac-10.

Wrong.

From an ESPN.Com article today....

"Arizona State already ranks among the Pac-10 leaders in football expenditures. ASU spent $14.4 million on football in the 2005-06 school year, according to figures it reported to the U.S. Department of Education. That was third among Pac-10 schools, behind USC ($17.2 million) and Washington ($15.1 million)."

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Because their funding for the football program is in the bottom third of the Pac-10.

And the local talent pool is inferior to that of every Pac-10 region other than the Oregons.

Go look at every elite college football program in the country and every one of them have one or more of three traits - storied tradition, surplus of local talent, and huge athletic department spending budget. ASU has none of the above. This has already been outlined by Jim Livengood and Gene Smith, a Pac-10 title every recruiting cycle and lesser bowl games every year is the most ASU and Arizona can realistically hope for until the population grows or local high school sports programs are updated.

 

[HooverDam]

^Mao, I would agree that ASU/UA are at a disadvantage because of the lack of prep talent in the state. However, because if extreme population growth, that should quickly be changing. Furthermore, a coach who is a good recruiter would should be able to recruit places like New Mexico, Nevada and Utah as well as Arizona almost like one state. These states are all growing quite fast and have talent to be picked up

 

[devilfan02]

The reason why we get the "why isn't ASU the FSU of the west" is because of the Kush/Bowden era. In the '70's, ASU and FSU squared off in several Fiesta Bowl classics and Kushs teams won several of them. Bowden, after Kush got fired, publicly said that Kush was one of the best coaches of his time and he patterned his offense after Kushs ASU offenses. Bowden still speaks highly of Kush to this day.

 

[devilalum]

The reason why we get the "why isn't ASU the FSU of the west" is because of the Kush/Bowden era. In the '70's, ASU and FSU squared off in several Fiesta Bowl classics and Kushs teams won several of them. Bowden, after Kush got fired, publicly said that Kush was one of the best coaches of his time and he patterned his offense after Kushs ASU offenses. Bowden still speaks highly of Kush to this day.

I was at those FSU ASU Fiesta Bowls. They were real barn burners.

 

[Espo]

Wrong.

From an ESPN.Com article today....

"Arizona State already ranks among the Pac-10 leaders in football expenditures. ASU spent $14.4 million on football in the 2005-06 school year, according to figures it reported to the U.S. Department of Education. That was third among Pac-10 schools, behind USC ($17.2 million) and Washington ($15.1 million)."

See I heard in the Arizona media the exact opposite today. Someone has it wrong.

 

[devilfan02]

See I heard in the Arizona media the exact opposite today. Someone has it wrong.

One of the 910am guys (I believe it was Gambo but it may have been Ash or MJ) said we were bottom three in football budgets. Maybe that is where the mixup is. Still doesn't make sense, if we're spending the 3rd most you'd think we'd have a bigger budget. As you said, someone doesn't have their facts straight. I'll side with ESPN on this one, especially over Gambo

 

[Espo]

One of the 910am guys (I believe it was Gambo but it may have been Ash or MJ) said we were bottom three in football budgets. Maybe that is where the mixup is. Still doesn't make sense, if we're spending the 3rd most you'd think we'd have a bigger budget. As you said, someone doesn't have their facts straight. I'll side with ESPN on this one, especially over Gambo

I agree. Sorry for the bad info.

 

[devilfan02]

I agree. Sorry for the bad info.

Don't be sorry, I heard it too. You'd think these idiots would have their facts straights especially when their discussing a new coach and the finances involved

 

[ajcardfan]

ASU and BYU actually had a terrific rivalry back in the WAC days. I remember a couple of those games as being pretty crazy. But, I agree, I'd rather see us in the Emerald bowl. The Vegas Bowl has a tough choice, ASU is much closer but Oregon has always shown well at bowls in ticket sales.

 

[devilalum]

ASU and BYU actually had a terrific rivalry back in the WAC days. I remember a couple of those games as being pretty crazy. But, I agree, I'd rather see us in the Emerald bowl. The Vegas Bowl has a tough choice, ASU is much closer but Oregon has always shown well at bowls in ticket sales.

What's funny to me is that Las Vegas wants a bunch of Mormons to come to their town. What are they gonna do?

Now ASU fans are a different story. Vegas is Sparky's home town.