Bad Officiating

[cardfanforever]

The current officiating in the NFL is horrid. How they can be so inconsistant almost smacks of conspiracy! The refs really were horrible in the game between the Seahawks and Cardinals. I have heard people complain about the pass interference (or lack of pass interference). I am quite frankly amazed people are not talking about the horrendous missed call very late in the game that would have given the Cards back control of the ball just before the two minute warning and made the score 24-23.

Lets see how many of you saw it.

 

[pete]

We saw some pretty bad officiating this year, but I thought the first half of the home Niners game was the worst. The refs spotted those chumps 14 points.

Part of the problem is the NFL keeps changing the rules every year and part of it is bias against bad teams. The Cards rarely get a break from the refs.

 

[MigratingOsprey]

I hear that on the officials ... they are absolutely horrible

and replay has turned out to be a joke over the past few years

I know my team isn't a league power and all, but it doesn't mean they have to be shafted on the calls year after year

it's getting almost as bad as the NBA

 

[conraddobler]

I've noticed that the refs are now pretty good at working the system when it comes to replay.

They know what is reviewable and not reviewable and they tend to make more calls they know might be questionable in the realm of judgement calls.

ie, blown dead before fumbles as per that one in the 9er game and also stuff like DG had to challenge that went against him because he could challenge the part of the play that was obviously wrong.

I think on a couple of those DG just challenged the play to make the official actually look at it again knowing it wouldn't change the play but putting them on notice and on the record so that they would think twice about it again.

I have seen some really awful blow to the head calls this year that are just tragic game changers way out of proportion to the actual event on the field.

All teams suffer with this but when you have our reputation it is even worse.

 

[vince56]

Officiating has been terrible. IMO, 1 call blew the Carolina game for us. Freddy Jones was called for holding on Boldin's long TD pass. That would've put us ahead 14-7, IIRC. We didn't score, they did, it's a 14 point swing the other way and we're now playing catch-up all game.

First game of the season, it was probably a good call, but again a borderline call as I believe it was Woods called for holding on Darling's big INT returned for a TD. Had that not been called, 17-10 Cardinals, and we win.

At Carolina, at St. Louis, home against SF, and at Seattle were all poorly officiated games and stunk of conspiracy. If the NFL wants us to believe this isn't fast becoming the WWE, there need to be some wholesale changes made to how officiating is handled, IMO.

 

[cardfanforever]

Did no one see the safety that the officials missed on the last Cardinal kickoff? Least wise i thought when a kick returner stepped out the back of the endzone it was supposed to be a safety. He was clearly not carried out by his momentum.

 

[vince56]

Did no one see the safety that the officials missed on the last Cardinal kickoff? Least wise i thought when a kick returner stepped out the back of the endzone it was supposed to be a safety. He was clearly not carried out by his momentum.

Touchback. Only if he comes out of the endzone then returns is it a safety.

 

[PortlandCardFan]

Touchback. Only if he comes out of the endzone then returns is it a safety.

Yeah.. but he stepped on the white line at the back of the endzone which I always thought was a safety.

 

[gamebird98]

The one that irratated me was the S. Alexander fumble at the 1. Perfect example the ref didnt know the rules.

 

[vince56]

Yeah.. but he stepped on the white line at the back of the endzone which I always thought was a safety.

Then you have a misconception. That's a touchback. It's only a safety if you come out of the endzone then go back in...much like if your offense has the ball on their own 1 yard line, then snaps the ball to the QB in the endzone and he sacked... that's a safety because they had posession outside of the endzone and were tackled back in the endzone (can also be a safety if it's offensive holding in the endzone too).

On a kickoff, the most common safety is if the returner has one foot in the endzone and one foot across the goal line.... and they think they're in the endzone already and kneel down the ball in the endzone. That's a safety by the same rules.

 

[vince56]

The one that irratated me was the S. Alexander fumble at the 1. Perfect example the ref didnt know the rules.

Please explain your position, because even though I didn't like it, the refs made the right call. The runner fumbled the ball before his knee was down, then recovered his own fumble. No whistle was blown until the fumble was recovered in the endzone for a TD. If the cards had recovered the fumble, it'd be a touchback for us, if anyone on seattle had recovered the fumble it'd be a touchdown.

Where's the gray area on that? How were the officials wrong?

 

[PortlandCardFan]

Then you have a misconception. That's a touchback. It's only a safety if you come out of the endzone then go back in...much like if your offense has the ball on their own 1 yard line, then snaps the ball to the QB in the endzone and he sacked... that's a safety because they had posession outside of the endzone and were tackled back in the endzone (can also be a safety if it's offensive holding in the endzone too).

On a kickoff, the most common safety is if the returner has one foot in the endzone and one foot across the goal line.... and they think they're in the endzone already and kneel down the ball in the endzone. That's a safety by the same rules.

I can't remember exactly and I could be wrong but what about the punter that muffed the snap and the ball shot past him out of bounds in the endzone? I was pretty sure it was two points for the other team.

 

[gamebird98]

Please explain your position, because even though I didn't like it, the refs made the right call. The runner fumbled the ball before his knee was down, then recovered his own fumble. No whistle was blown until the fumble was recovered in the endzone for a TD. If the cards had recovered the fumble, it'd be a touchback for us, if anyone on seattle had recovered the fumble it'd be a touchdown.


Where's the gray area on that? How were the officials wrong?

Its the Ken Stabler rule. The fumbling player can not recover his own fumble and be credited with the forward spot. The ball should have been placed at the spot of the fumble....which was at the 1 yard line.

 

[gamebird98]

The worst part...the ref reviewed the play, said the player indeed fumbled the ball, but still credited him with the score. Also, it cost us a replay challenge, and a timeout.

 

[vince56]

I can't remember exactly and I could be wrong but what about the punter that muffed the snap and the ball shot past him out of bounds in the endzone? I was pretty sure it was two points for the other team.

yeah!! Because they had possession outside the endzone prior (the ball was snapped from somewhere, no?)! Exactly what I've been saying!!

 

[vince56]

Its the Ken Stabler rule. The fumbling player can not recover his own fumble and be credited with the forward spot. The ball should have been placed at the spot of the fumble....which was at the 1 yard line.

hmm, well then you've got me, that's a rule I've never heard of (stabler was a bit before my time). Either way he did fumble on the goal line, so really that argument can be moot too because the goal line and endzone are the same thing.

I'll give you that one on the rule though, just out of my sheer ignorance of it!

 

[gamebird98]

The ball was coming out before he crossed the goal line. I have replayed it over and over...and even the comentators said it was a dead ball, and should be placed at the 1.

 

[CardShark]

Face it. The Cards always draw one of the worst officiating crews simply because they are not playing in marquee games. Nationally televised games get the best crews. Ask the Cards how many letters of apology they recieve for errant calls. I'll bet it's near the top of the league.

 

[Jay Cardinal]

Its the Ken Stabler rule. The fumbling player can not recover his own fumble and be credited with the forward spot. The ball should have been placed at the spot of the fumble....which was at the 1 yard line.

Great call, you're obviously a student of the game. I was blown away that they missed this. For me a rule is a rule. And that wasn't subject to any interpretation (like pass interference). I was crying conspiracy at that point. I think some system should be set up to compensate teams that are screwed on misinterpretations of the rule book. I would hope for a large sum of money ($100,000 +), a salary cap exemption, fired ref, or at the very least a public appology and acknowledment of wrong=doing.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Not only do I agree, not only was I way ahead of you on this.....I also got conspiracy theories to boot!

http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=43804&highlight=decline

Peace

 

[RugbyMuffin]

hmm, well then you've got me, that's a rule I've never heard of (stabler was a bit before my time). Either way he did fumble on the goal line, so really that argument can be moot too because the goal line and endzone are the same thing.

I'll give you that one on the rule though, just out of my sheer ignorance of it!

And if THAT held true. Then LAST year at Seattle Anquan's jumping catch, which he reached out after he caught it in the air and pinned it to the gournd should have been a touchdown!!!!!

I mean he caught it, had possesion, and then hit the ground. It doesn't matter if the ground caused the ball to come loose cause the millisecond it hit the ground it is a TD!

Man the Cards get screwed A LOT!