Bah, I've grown impatient: teh Shogun' s Top 15 mock (Cardinals included)

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But Shogun, why not do every team?
I'm too lazy to right now and on the chance we DO trade down, I seriously doubt we'll go no farther than 15.

~No trades
~Only using underclassmen that have announced as of 1/9/07 12:00 PM
~My thoughts on the picks are liable to change in five minutes because it's too early for this, so don't take this as gospel yet.

1. Oakland Raiders - RB Adrian Peterson, Oklahoma
But what about Lamont Jordan? Jordan got a severe case of dance fever this year and regressed. He's a solid back, but after seeing what Bush/McAllister did, Al Davis would probably bite, especially after he runs a 4.4 or faster. I don't see Russell because it's too smart of a move for the old man. He seems to always stray from common picks. My guess is that he takes a flyer on Trent Edwards or Drew Stanton in the later rounds.

2. Detroit Lions - OT Joe Thomas, Wisconsion

Jeff Backus! Jeff Backus! He was meh and is better suited at right tackle. I don't think Calvin Johnson comes here because Mike Martz HATES bigger receivers with a passion and I'm not buying Johnson running 4.4s. They gave up the most sacks last year and a good O-Line is vital to Martz's philosphy. Marinelli seems stubborn enough to stick to his convictions (right now, anyway) to try and wait for a new QB later due to his surprising mancrush on Jon Kitna.

3. Cleveland Browns - QB Brady Quinn, Notre Dame
Romeo + Weis connection lands the pretty boy in a nice little situation. While Quinn lacks the upside of Russell, he has a much lower bust factor. He could come in right away and run the offense, Frye has been helter-skelter and seems to make sense.

4. Tampa Bay Bucs - WR Calvin Johnson, Georgia Tech

I was really tempted to put Russell here because Jon Gruden is incredibly finnicky with QBs, but Calvin comes in a revives a stagnant offense relying on 35-year old Joey Galloway and Michael freaking Clayton. Remember when Clayton was good and was touted to be better than Anquan? LOL. Anyway, with those two they give Carnell Williams room to run around.

5. Arizona Cardinals - ???

Ah, the pick that everyone wants to see. Will I give us a player from the state of Florida?? Laron Landry? Alan Branch? Nope. After much review of the talent and our needs I see that the best pick right now would be....

DE Jamaal Anderson, Arkansas

He's absolutely LOVELY as a prospect with untapped potential. I like Berry and Chike and all, but the former has missed quite a bit of time and Chike doesn't really stand up against run well. While my mancrush for Nelson is massive, he would now officially be declared a reach with the other underclassmen talent now. Remember the Wisconsin-Arkansas game? He was like a one-man army on the other side.

6. Washington Redskins - DT Alan Branch, Michigan
I sort of follow the Washington Redskins because they have so many Hurricane alumni and they have a plethora of problems, from the front office to the field. But Branch would be best because he's just a MAN and will command double teams, allowing Andre Carter (who turned it on in the second half of the season) to go rush one-on-one. Gaines is also a legit option for them.

7. Minnesota Vikings - S Laron Landry, LSU
The best route for Minnesota would be to trade down because really can't address position of need here, and having them selecting a WR would be taking the easy route. Landry would be a start in helping shore up that sorry secondary. They've already used three firsts on defensive ends, I think they'd be wary of picking another one.

8. Houston Texans - QB JaMarcus Russell, LSU
Would Houston REALLY be foolish to pass on another potential star QB after being ETHER'D by Vince Young and the ineffectiveness of David Carr? I doubt it. IIRC, Carr only threw one (1) TD in a stretch of SEVEN (7) games. Texans fans like Nelson and Leon Hall, but this a gift from the football gods.

9. Miami Dolphins - DE Gaines Adams, Clemson
Granted the heach coaching position is in flux, but his would be the perfect opportunity for both teams. Adams is bit on the lean side and would properly fit that bandit role that Jason Taylor filled. Patrick Willis and Derelle Revis are definite possibilities as well.

10. Atlanta Falcons - S Reggie Nelson, Florida
My mind tells me to put Reggie Nelson here (sadly), but my gut keeps telling me to put Brian Brohm here. It'll be up to Petrino to decide Michael Vick's future in Hotlanta now and will give him a shot in his offense next year, BUT if/when he fails, Brian Brohm could step in and excel the following year after being groomed. If Vick succeeds, it'll be a Phillip Rivers-situation and Matt Shaub becomes trade bait (well, he's already rejected five offers, so he might be out of there this year). Onto Nelson, Atlanta haven't found a good free safety in a good minute would the gambling Hall. Offensively, they're changing things up alot, so it'd be difficult to pick for skill players.

11. San Francisco 49ers - WR Dwayne Jarrett, USC
Antonio Bryant can't get his head together (AGAIN), thus leaving the cupboard bare for Alex Smith. Part of me thinks they'll go defense because it's Nolan, but can someone name their three starting receivers off the top of their head? Vernon Davis doesn't count.

12. Buffalo Bills - LB Patrick Willis, Ole Miss
He (or Lawrence Timmons :( ) seems to fit perfect here in Ron Turner's Cover 2, but Willis wins out because he's much more polished and can be a Jon Vilma impact player from jump. I also thought of Leon Hall, but I HATE him, so let's move on.

13. St. Louis Rams - LB Paul Posluszny, Penn State
Jim Haslett likes tough, football players so it wouldn't surprise me if he campaigned for teh Poz. I like him, but I'm not this high on him as others are. This would allow Will Witherspoon to go back to his natrual position of outside. I think they could go corner as well. I didn't think of a DE because Charles Grant will probably be coaxed into signing with them.

14. Carolina Panthers - S Michael Griffin, Texas
From what I've heard and read, Delhomme is still the long-term answer at QB, so if they go that route it'll be later in the draft. While their corners are VERY good, that safety duo of Shaun Williams (I thought was out of the league since 2004) and Mike Minter aren't getting it done anymore. Griffin is very balanced and seems to always be around the ball. They really don't have needs that can be addressed here (or at all, they're a really talented team).

15. Pittsburgh Steelers - CB Leon Hall, Michigan
The Steelers can afford to go a multitude of directions with their pick. Their O-Line has played questionable this year, their LBs have underperformed and are getting older, and their secondary wasn't as good as they would have liked. Most, if not all can be addressed with this pick. They have good tradition of keeping a strong trench, and wanted to go Brown, but Hall would be "BPA".

I'm spent. The Cardinals picks are going to be in the next post.
 

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DE Jamaal Anderson, Arkansas

He's absolutely LOVELY as a prospect with untapped potential. I like Berry and Chike and all, but the former has missed quite a bit of time and Chike doesn't really stand up against run well. While my mancrush for Nelson is massive, he would now officially be declared a reach with the other underclassmen talent now. Remember the Wisconsin-Arkansas game? He was like a one-man army on the other side.


I absolutely beg to differ..... Teams were running at 3.3 YPC when running on Okefor's side, something like 4.2 up the middle and 4.6 at Berry's side. Chike may not be a lot of things but he is stout against the run
 

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Barring injury, no way Russell falls to 8. He may have catapulted himself to #1 overall.

I haven't seen enough of Anderson, but I don't think that he has been considered yet as top5.
 
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2nd Round Pick - LB Jon Beason, Miami (FL)
You KNOW I had to do it. :) Beason is run stopping machine and would excel in Orlando Huff's position.

3rd Round Pick - Eric Wright, UNLV

He's still pretty raw as a player, but he's played very well this year. He did have some trouble at USC which'll drop him because of character, but the boy can return. So all you Ted Ginn worshippers give it a rest.

4th Round Pick - RB Gary Russell, Minnesota

He was academically ineligible this year, but when he played he outplayed Lawrence Maroney in some games. With Maroney and Marion Barber being successful in the pros, it would be a good, albeit not sexy pick.

5th Round Pick - OT Andrew Carnahan, Arizona State

He could go fourth if you want, but it's my first one this year, so be gentle. Throwing a bone to the homers here and would be nice to have sit back and develop.

6th Round Pick - QB Jared Zabransky, Boise State

He runs a 4.6 40. You know what means? Faster delivery of the water for the players on the field. Besides, he can be Shane Boyd v. 2.0.

7th Round Pick - Small school player or a punter
I really don't care what we do with it. Draft Timmy Chang again for Pete's Dragon.
 
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Barring injury, no way Russell falls to 8. He may have catapulted himself to #1 overall.

I haven't seen enough of Anderson, but I don't think that he has been considered yet as top5.
Everyone said Matt Leinart wouldn't fall either.
 

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I like the pick and the thinking.

Even with all the juniors entering the draft, I do think Joe Thomas is gone before the Cards pick

Since no CB or LB is worth a top five pick, I have no problem with a defensive end -- particularly since he can be rotated in with Chike and Bert -- keeping all three fresh during the game
 

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7th Round Pick - Small school player or a punter
I really don't care what we do with it. Draft Timmy Chang again for Pete's Dragon.

I really like the 2nd and 3rd round picks.

But we dont have a 7th rounder. Traded to NE for Gorin.
 

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Everyone said Matt Leinart wouldn't fall either.


nice call on russell ....i know you are on the mark with him....i am a nelson guy too and if were my call i go down as far as necessary to make surei i get him...he solves a major problem....anderson a great addition but the severity of the DB's is far far greater....or maybe (i hope) it was more of a coaching issue (but i kinda' doubt it)
 

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I do think the QBs (including Brohm) could very well go in the top 5-- with four of those teams needing QB's and with Houston and Carolina close enough to trade up if they really wanted to.

The reason -- at this time last year, the common wisdom was that rookie qb's were risky. Low and behold, three get taken in the top 11 and all look very, very good.

I think last year's success will make teams less fearful this year.

The best thing that could happen would be for the last QB to be sitting there at 5 and have the Texans and Panthers get into a bidding war for the pick.
 

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2nd Round Pick - LB Jon Beason, Miami (FL)
You KNOW I had to do it. :) Beason is run stopping machine and would excel in Orlando Huff's position.

3rd Round Pick - Eric Wright, UNLV

He's still pretty raw as a player, but he's played very well this year. He did have some trouble at USC which'll drop him because of character, but the boy can return. So all you Ted Ginn worshippers give it a rest.

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Some trouble being charged with rape, forced oral copulation, forced penetration with a foreign object and drug possession. When his roommate, Mark Sanchez, then got charged with rape they checked his dorm and discovered 136 doses of ecstacy which it turned out belonged to his roommate, Eric Wright. That's why Wright was kicked out of school they were still investigating the rape and drug charge when he got involved in the Sanchez case. In both cases the DA dropped the rape charges when the victim declined to testify.

He's talented but I seriously doubt the Bidwills would endorse such a pick. And remember, if Chow is the coach he'll be quite familiar with Wright.
 

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Some trouble being charged with rape, forced oral copulation, forced penetration with a foreign object and drug possession. When his roommate, Mark Sanchez, then got charged with rape they checked his dorm and discovered 136 doses of ecstacy which it turned out belonged to his roommate, Eric Wright. That's why Wright was kicked out of school they were still investigating the rape and drug charge when he got involved in the Sanchez case. In both cases the DA dropped the rape charges when the victim declined to testify.

He's talented but I seriously doubt the Bidwills would endorse such a pick. And remember, if Chow is the coach he'll be quite familiar with Wright.

I call for a do over on the Wright pick.
 

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It's still early but I find it hard to believe that Eric Wright will be available at in the 3rd. I just read a recent Mel Kyper article that said Wright is right now a fringe 1st rounder. I want him as well and believe he would be a great value in the 2nd round. He has some of the most natural and impressive cover skills in the entire draft and is an above avg returner
 

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Some trouble being charged with rape, forced oral copulation, forced penetration with a foreign object and drug possession. When his roommate, Mark Sanchez, then got charged with rape they checked his dorm and discovered 136 doses of ecstacy which it turned out belonged to his roommate, Eric Wright. That's why Wright was kicked out of school they were still investigating the rape and drug charge when he got involved in the Sanchez case. In both cases the DA dropped the rape charges when the victim declined to testify.

He's talented but I seriously doubt the Bidwills would endorse such a pick. And remember, if Chow is the coach he'll be quite familiar with Wright.

Oh boy, I didn't realize he was the ecstasy expulsion. The rape charges are the most disturbing. As I said above, Kyper says he's a fringe 1st rounder but he failed to talk about his character issues. That will make me 2nd guess my endorsement on him. Damn, he's got major upside and would instantly upgrade our secondary
 

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I call for a do over on the Wright pick.

I had to look it up to get the details but it was pretty ugly. The girl was 18 and drunk and that's why she refused to testify, she was afraid that it would be written off as underage drinking girl has consensual sex and then cries rape later.

Wright was cleared of charges and by most accounts was going to stay at USC, until the Sanchez case and the ecstacy discovery. One of the claims was that Wright gave the girl ecstacy, he'd denied it, but when they found 136 doses in his room later you'd have thought the DA might have reopened the case against him?
 

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Wasn't there also a QB that transfered from USC to UNLV? Was that related?

Edit: Rocky Hinds...6-5 QB
 

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Oh boy, I didn't realize he was the ecstasy expulsion. The rape charges are the most disturbing. As I said above, Kyper says he's a fringe 1st rounder but he failed to talk about his character issues. That will make me 2nd guess my endorsement on him. Damn, he's got major upside and would instantly upgrade our secondary

Here's an article I found that discusses some of the rape stuff.

http://observingcasually.blogspot.com/2005/04/please-stop-with-sexual-assaults.html

The other stuff came from an old Scott Wolf column and is hearsay often repeated by UCLA fans. The case was dropped against both he and Sanchez (separate cases) so I'm not sure anybody ever officially announced all the details but even USC fans seem to agree with that account of what happened. USC was going to reinstate him until the Sanchez case happened.
 
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Wasn't there also a QB that transfered from USC to UNLV? Was that related?

Edit: Rocky Hinds...6-5 QB
He wasn't related to Wright at all. He transferred because he was never going to play QB for Southern Cal. They were talking about moving him to TE.
 

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I remember when the USC player got kicked off the team for having 100+ pills of ecstasy but I didn't realize it was him. IIRC he got the boot shortly after SC won the NC. I didn't realize he was tied into the Sanchez case, that's very disheartning
 

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Did Leinart win 2 Natl Championships? I think they beat Oklahoma once, but did they win 2?
 

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While I'm at it another guy who we probably won't draft is Justin Medlock the UCLA kicker who got charged with a DUI and leaving the scene of an accident. His passenger was on the womens golf team, she was injured and he left the scene. Apparently he ran to a phone, called for help, and then took off. of course it was his car so it was pretty easy to determine who did what and he did call for help but I was pretty amazed given the details that UCLA reinstated him. He missed last years bowl game but was reinstated and was the kicker this year.

Good kicker.
 

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I remember when the USC player got kicked off the team for having 100+ pills of ecstasy but I didn't realize it was him. IIRC he got the boot shortly after SC won the NC. I didn't realize he was tied into the Sanchez case, that's very disheartning

Again that part is hearsay that he and Sanchez were roommates, I can't cite an article that says that conclusively. The DA who dropped the charges against Hershel Dennis(rape), Wright(rape) and Sanchez(rape) is DA Cooley who is.... a USC graduate. EVerytime something about UCLA/USC comes up on a UCLA board I read it degenerates into lists of former players who've been arrested and always ends with Wright and Cooley. Usually even the USC fans involved admit Wright got let off easily.

Edit: I just found an old Scott Wolf column that says the roommate was actually Desmond Reed, not Sanchez and the reason they didn't prosecute Wright on drug charges is they couldn't prove if the pills belonged to Wright or Reed. Sorry about that I've read it so many times on UCLA boards I never bothered to search very hard to verify it they always cite Scott Wolf as the source but in fact he's the source that it was NOT Sanchez.

So scrap the connection to Sanchez's case sounds like some fellow UCLA fans have corrupted that story, not sure why, the truth was bad enough no need to distort it. Same DA in all 3 cases is correct though, and dropped the rape charges all 3 times when the minor victim declined to press charges and they decided without that they had no case.
 
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6th Round Pick - QB Jared Zabransky, Boise State

He runs a 4.6 40. You know what means? Faster delivery of the water for the players on the field. Besides, he can be Shane Boyd v. 2.0.

Heh, heh, heh.
 

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Did Leinart win 2 Natl Championships? I think they beat Oklahoma once, but did they win 2?

Yeah, they won back-to-back NC's with Leinart and almost won 3 in a row.

They shared the NC with LSU after they beat Michigan 28-14 in the Rose Bowl.

They were NC after they trashed Oklahoma in the Orange Bowl
 

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Yeah, they won back-to-back NC's with Leinart and almost won 3 in a row.

They shared the NC with LSU after they beat Michigan 28-14 in the Rose Bowl.

They were NC after they trashed Oklahoma in the Orange Bowl

Thanks. I forgot about Michigan.
 
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