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Suprised I have not seen this talked about here yet, with all the man love for the kid. Coach was on 620 yesterday and he said we are gonna get a good dose of Beanie this week. He basically said they know he is a special player and are gonna give him a real chance to show it this week. He made it sound like we will commit to the run alot more this week and really get Beanie some quality time on the field.

I cant wait to see it. Like I have said all along, I really believe the two headed monster of Hightower and Wells can be super scary to any defense. Assuming both HANG ON TO THE DAMN BALL! Four fumbles in 3 games combined will kill any team. But man am I stoked to see these guys get some real commitment to the run.
 

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Whiz sould have realized this week one, yet as usual he is a day late.
 

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As usual?

Elaborate.
 

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Let him LOOOSE!

Get him 20 carries and he'll give you 100+ yards and a TD.
 

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The Texans are ranked 29th in run defense!!! If we can't run the ball on them, we don't belong in this league!
 

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Good. I can't wait to see Beanie Wells get some more playing time. I like what I have seen so far, minus the fumbles of course.
 

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Good. I can't wait to see Beanie Wells get some more playing time. I like what I have seen so far, minus the fumbles of course.


Just curious Die Hard.Can you tell me what they call the (1) figure in your money total? Whats after Trillion? My son is taking college math as a junior and I told him never need to ask me any questions.He's dating one of the smartest blondes in school,and I guess thats studying they are doing in his room on Wednesdays behind the closed door.Right?

I can trust my son plus her dad is bigtime military and they both would die.:DWith my approval.
 

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Excited about seeing Beanie Wells. I just am not holding my breath it will solve all the issues. Last year when we knew we were losing both the OC and DC I said that would be a huge obstacle to overcome and would impact this team. Many on this board didn't agree and it sucks because I think this team would be much better with better play calling and management on both sides of the ball.
 

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As usual?

Elaborate.

How many games did Tim Hightower start before Edge was reinserted in the line up in week 17? The lack of offensive balance when Hightower started last year killed the offense. I said it then and was bashed. I will say it now and continue to be bashed. I really don't care. The prooof is in the results.

Not a Whiz fan. Sorry kool aid drinkers. Until he actually pulls off a decent draft and shows me that he isn't a product of Todd Haley's play calling and Dennis Green's drafts I won't worship the guy like the rest of you, Super Bowl or not. 9-7 is Vince Tobin-esque except Whiz had a nice playoff run and benefitted by getting home games in the playoffs by playing in the NFC West.
 

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Brown should be a guard

Hightower is not a starter

Put a TE on the end to help when one DE gets 2 dozen sacks

Whiz cant be HC and OC

A team needs an OC

many many many things take whiz a long time to realise

+1
 

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I don't believe the coach should be immune to criticism. Certainly his game management this year has been questionable.
 

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Brown should be a guard

I think he would suck as a guard too.
Hightower is not a starter

I agree with that, but he is what we have by default. I don't think it is Whiz's plan to have him be the starter all year.

Put a TE on the end to help when one DE gets 2 dozen sacks


Most of the pressure this year have come with the defense rushing 4 or 5. The 5 men on the offensive line should be able to handle it, and they aren't.

Whiz cant be HC and OC

I'll give him a little more benefit of the doubt, but he needs to work on his game management.

A team needs an OC

They have 2 of them. :D
many many many things take whiz a long time to realise






How many games did Tim Hightower start before Edge was reinserted in the line up in week 17? The lack of offensive balance when Hightower started last year killed the offense. I said it then and was bashed. I will say it now and continue to be bashed. I really don't care. The prooof is in the results.

Not a Whiz fan. Sorry kool aid drinkers. Until he actually pulls off a decent draft and shows me that he isn't a product of Todd Haley's play calling and Dennis Green's drafts I won't worship the guy like the rest of you, Super Bowl or not. 9-7 is Vince Tobin-esque except Whiz had a nice playoff run and benefited by getting home games in the playoffs by playing in the NFC West.

Even you have to realize that Beanie wasn't healthy or ready Week 1.
Edge deserved his benching. Hightower only came in at the beginning of the year and had 10TD's.

I don't worship the guy by any means, but he is far from being as bad as you say.
 

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How many games did Tim Hightower start before Edge was reinserted in the line up in week 17? The lack of offensive balance when Hightower started last year killed the offense. I said it then and was bashed. I will say it now and continue to be bashed. I really don't care. The prooof is in the results.

Not a Whiz fan. Sorry kool aid drinkers. Until he actually pulls off a decent draft and shows me that he isn't a product of Todd Haley's play calling and Dennis Green's drafts I won't worship the guy like the rest of you, Super Bowl or not. 9-7 is Vince Tobin-esque except Whiz had a nice playoff run and benefitted by getting home games in the playoffs by playing in the NFC West.


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How many games did Tim Hightower start before Edge was reinserted in the line up in week 17? The lack of offensive balance when Hightower started last year killed the offense. I said it then and was bashed. I will say it now and continue to be bashed. I really don't care. The prooof is in the results.

Not a Whiz fan. Sorry kool aid drinkers. Until he actually pulls off a decent draft and shows me that he isn't a product of Todd Haley's play calling and Dennis Green's drafts I won't worship the guy like the rest of you, Super Bowl or not. 9-7 is Vince Tobin-esque except Whiz had a nice playoff run and benefitted by getting home games in the playoffs by playing in the NFC West.

IT'S GAME 4 OF THE SEASON

Get a grip. And don't bother getting back on the bandwagon in 3-4 weeks when this team is doing well and a good majority of it is because of the coach.

I won't let you back on.
 

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Brown should be a guard

Hightower is not a starter

Put a TE on the end to help when one DE gets 2 dozen sacks

Whiz cant be HC and OC

A team needs an OC

many many many things take whiz a long time to realise

I like you SWD but we could write a 400 page book about all the things you have been wrong about over the years so I'll take your criticism with a grain of salt.
 

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I don't believe the coach should be immune to criticism. Certainly his game management this year has been questionable.

This I agree with. But this is the point. You could nitpick every coach in the league. Hell Bill Belichek and Vince Lombardi made dozens of calls a season that can be second guessed.

The point is the good Wiz does and continues to do FAR outweighs the bad.

If you can't agree with that then I don't know what to tell you.
 

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Just curious Die Hard.Can you tell me what they call the (1) figure in your money total? Whats after Trillion? My son is taking college math as a junior and I told him never need to ask me any questions.He's dating one of the smartest blondes in school,and I guess thats studying they are doing in his room on Wednesdays behind the closed door.Right?

I can trust my son plus her dad is bigtime military and they both would die.:DWith my approval.

It is 1 quadrillion. After that comes quintillion and then sextillion. :D
 

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Even you have to realize that Beanie wasn't healthy or ready Week 1.
Edge deserved his benching. Hightower only came in at the beginning of the year and had 10TD's.

I don't worship the guy by any means, but he is far from being as bad as you say.

A 3rd down, goal line grinder is different than a starter. The team took major steps backward when Edge was benched. They were an unbalanced mess. They stopped handing the ball of because they had no option. It was obvious. Edge did not deserve his benching. If the HC had a relationship with his players any differences could have been resolved behind closed doors, without getting blown out in Philly and NE and getting embarassed at home vs. MN. We are seeing the exact same problems now that we saw last year when Hightower was the featured back. Teams send the house and murder Kurt and the offense is awful. The equation to beat Arizona isn't rocket science. When TH is in, send four and you will stop the run because he is slow as hell. In passing downs, kill Warner. Plain and simple. 1.9 YPC averages don't win games. We had thsi exact same discussion last year, everyone said it was the O-line's fault, then Edge comes back and all of a sudden the line looks pretty good. No line will look good if they don't have a decent runner and a balanced attack behind them.
 

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How many games did Tim Hightower start before Edge was reinserted in the line up in week 17? The lack of offensive balance when Hightower started last year killed the offense. I said it then and was bashed. I will say it now and continue to be bashed. I really don't care. The prooof is in the results.

Not a Whiz fan. Sorry kool aid drinkers. Until he actually pulls off a decent draft and shows me that he isn't a product of Todd Haley's play calling and Dennis Green's drafts I won't worship the guy like the rest of you, Super Bowl or not. 9-7 is Vince Tobin-esque except Whiz had a nice playoff run and benefitted by getting home games in the playoffs by playing in the NFC West.

I agree with some of your points except I think your downplaying Whiz's impact. This team has always had talent and IMO had some talented coaches/coordinators in the past. The problem has been attitude, management, culture and the inability to bring it all together at the same time. That is what the head coach is responsible for and something none of our recent coaches have been able to do until Whiz got here. If you had the same team under Dennis, this team doesn't make it to the Superbowl.

The Chiefs were the 9th worst offensive team in the NFL last year and they at this point are 2nd worst under Tod. Also, with Clancy they have manged to go from the 2nd worst Defensive team to the 5th worst which is not saying much. Yes, they just got there but if either was the 2nd coming...you would expect to see a bigger impact. We have seen highly coveted coordinators go to other NFL teams and make a huge impact the first season they are there.

The Whiz, Tod, and Clancy seemed to be a good combination together. However, it also appears split up they don't have the same impact. To me it's a combination of the Head Coach and Coordinators that makes a team successful. You need the right combination.

I think this is a case of too many changes too fast for a team that just made it to the Superbowl. I don't know if it was the Whiz or the organization that downplayed the need to keep as much of the staff together as possible but it appears it has taken it's toll by making changes to two of the most important spots on the team (coordinators). Tod got a head coaching job so that could not be helped but losing your DC too????

I just don't see on what planet people thought this was going to be the same team. Especially, considering you really didn't go out and replace those two important spots with highly regarded experienced coordinators. Yes, Whiz has a history there but not also as a HC as someone stated. Also, not with this type of team. This isn't your Steelers offense.
 
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IT'S GAME 4 OF THE SEASON

Get a grip. And don't bother getting back on the bandwagon in 3-4 weeks when this team is doing well and a good majority of it is because of the coach.

I won't let you back on.

The bandwagon? LMFAO. That is rich. You can keep that to yourself. I never hopped on board. I was here long before, during, and in spite of your bandwagon.
 

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The bandwagon? LMFAO. That is rich. You can keep that to yourself. I never hopped on board. I was here long before, during, and in spite of your bandwagon.

Whatever. Its real simple dude.

8-8 and 9-7.

You can make whatever speculative arguments and complaints you like but the fact of the matter is he has the best 2 year run IN CARDINALS HISTORY.

And your bitching about Tim Hightower starting after 3 games.

LMAO.

Some people just don't get it. Yeah "He's Vince Tobin just with a lucky Super Bowl run" is like saying "Carrot top is just like Brad Pitt except with out all the success, money, and good looks"

Whatever. Some people just need something to hate. But you are wrong.

The 2007 and 2008 records prove it.
 

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Whatever. Its real simple dude.

8-8 and 9-7.

You can make whatever speculative arguments and complaints you like but the fact of the matter is he has the best 2 year run IN CARDINALS HISTORY.

You just proved that you are the driver of the bandwagon with that comment. Have you removed the tag from your DRC jersey and NFC Champs hat yet? Best two year run in Cardinals history? Wow. Might want to fact check that one bud. What is more amazing is the acceptance of 8-8 and 9-7 records.
 
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