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Red Sox on verge of acquiring Beckett, Lowell

By Peter Gammons and Jayson Stark
ESPN.com

Updated: Nov. 21, 2005, 8:41 PM ET

The Red Sox and Marlins have come to a tentative agreement on a trade that would send Josh Beckett and Mike Lowell to Boston for shortstop Hanley Ramirez, right-handed prospect Anibal Sanchez and a minor-league pitcher.

The deal is contingent on the finalization of paperwork and all players passing physicals, sources outside the Red Sox organization have told ESPN's Peter Gammons. An official announcement is not expected for a day or two, which leaves open the possibility that it could still fall apart, Gammons said on SportsCenter.

Only some last-minute haggling over dollars appeared to be holding up the deal, a baseball official with knowledge of the discussions told ESPN.com's Jayson Stark. Florida would include cash in the trade to offset some of the $18 million owed to Lowell over the next two seasons.

In return, the Red Sox would give up Ramirez, their much-ballyhooed shortstop prospect, and Sanchez. The Marlins originally had targeted left-hander Jon Lester, but Boston balked at including him in the trade, so the Red Sox agreed to add a second minor leaguer if Florida took Sanchez instead, Stark reports.

Over the weekend the Texas Rangers were considered the frontrunner to land Beckett, the MVP of the 2003 World Series. The Rangers were offering All-Star third baseman Hank Blalock and one of their two top pitching prospects, either Thomas Diamond or John Danks, for Beckett. Blalock, who turned 25 on Monday, hit .263 with 25 homers and 92 RBI last season and led AL third basemen in fielding.

New Rangers general manager Jon Daniels said he received a call Monday afternoon from Marlins GM Larry Beinfest, who told him "the Marlins are going to go in another direction with their trade."

Before Texas was told it was eliminated from the running, Florida asked the Rangers to expand their deal even further, to include hot shortstop prospect Joaquin Arias, along with Blalock and a pitcher. In return, the Rangers would want a second pitcher back -- possibly setup man Guillermo Mota.

The Marlins, if that deal would have been completed, then would turn around and trade Blalock, who would block Miguel Cabrera's return to third base if Florida kept him. Teams known to be interested in Blalock include the Twins, Phillies and Devil Rays.

Beckett went 15-8 with a 3.38 ERA last season, when he had problems with his shoulder and recurring blisters on his right middle finger.

Lowell hit .236 with eight homers and 58 RBI while winning the NL Gold Glove at third base last season. He averaged 24 homers and 94 RBI per season in the five years before that.

Beckett is expected to earn between $4 million and $5 million next season.
 

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IMO this is a good trade for Boston. I'm gonna ignore the fact that they had to take on Lowell because that had to happen in order to complete the trade. However, Boston needs a 3B and if Lowell can return to old form it will be well worth it. Their biggest need was a top tier starter and they got that in Beckett. If Schilling can get it together, they could have a very good rotation. They had to gove up Ramirez but I think he is very replaceable. We all know that Renteria is at SS for the next 3 years and Ramirez would have stepped in but now that duty falls to Dustin Pedroia. He is a great prosepct who is tearing through the minors. He is a great contact hitter with great speed but his best attribute is his defense. He has some of the best range I have ever seen. His only downside is his size but he makes up for it with heart and effort. A lot like eckstein but better. I don't know anything about the minor league pitchers they had to give up. This also most likely means that Glaus will stay put which I don't really have a problem with
 

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if Lowell can return to old form

Mighty big 'if' - and it's foolish for a team to ever assume that on a big money guy.

I would love to see Pedroia here - had begged them to draft him - but since Boston shows no interest in working out of their farm system anytime in the near future, which is one reason Theo left, maybe we could find a way to trade them an aging outfielder or something. Heck Gonzo is practically a hero in Boston, and he has insisted he'll 'return to his old form' for 2006...
 

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AZZenny said:
Mighty big 'if' - and it's foolish for a team to ever assume that on a big money guy.

I would love to see Pedroia here - had begged them to draft him - but since Boston shows no interest in working out of their farm system anytime in the near future, which is one reason Theo left, maybe we could find a way to trade them an aging outfielder or something. Heck Gonzo is practically a hero in Boston, and he has insisted he'll 'return to his old form' for 2006...

It is a big "if" but you have to look at the situation. Boston can afford to gamble on a guy like Lowell cause they have a huge budget. If he doesn't work, he's gone in 2 years. If he does, he could be great trade bait ina year and half. Also, he won a gold glove this year so he does somethings good. IMO, he juiced and had to get off and turned into a mental mess at the plate last year. I would love to get Pedroia. I watched him for 3 years at ASU and I think he was one of the best infielders to come out of the program in a while. I'm hoping Gonzo has a HUGE 1st half and we trade him to an AL contender where he can DH. Hopefully that AL contender is Boston and we can snag Pedroia. Imagine that, Pedroia at 2B, Upton at SS, and Drew (or possibly Pierre-extreme longshot) at CF. Speed, speed, speed! Would be great to watch
 

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Hopefully that AL contender is Boston and we can snag Pedroia. Imagine that, Pedroia at 2B, Upton at SS, and Drew (or possibly Pierre-extreme longshot) at CF. Speed, speed, speed! Would be great to watch

Actually, should this deal go down, I see Drew at SS, Pedroia at 2B and Upton in CF.
 

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blech ... another stupid firesale

stupid florida and their stupid inability to get a stadium done

stupid weak florida based fans

Hate too see Beckett go, but at least they got a couple of needed prospects in return. Ramirez will probably be thrown into the SS position and alex gonzalez will be allowed to walk. Andino showed at the end of last year and during the fall league that he just isn't ready.

Absolutely love mike lowell and all that he has done for the marlins, but the guy is done and his contract was an albatross ... when you are in a position like florida, you can't afford to have a single bad deal

also talk about delgado and loduca being shipped out

so frustrating.............
 

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what a coup for the Red Sox....money is not an issue for them so w/o those concerns, its just a matter of players playing to their form....and Beckett is what every Red Sox fan wants...a Yankee killer. That rotation if healthy is the best 1-5 in my mind and Loweel if he gives anything is just icing. I love this move for the Red Sox...
 

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MigratingOsprey said:
blech ... another stupid firesale

stupid florida and their stupid inability to get a stadium done

stupid weak florida based fans

Hate too see Beckett go, but at least they got a couple of needed prospects in return. Ramirez will probably be thrown into the SS position and alex gonzalez will be allowed to walk. Andino showed at the end of last year and during the fall league that he just isn't ready.

Absolutely love mike lowell and all that he has done for the marlins, but the guy is done and his contract was an albatross ... when you are in a position like florida, you can't afford to have a single bad deal

also talk about delgado and loduca being shipped out

so frustrating.............

Reports circulating now are that if Konerko walks (which there's about a 70-75 percent chance of), the Sox could swing a deal with the Marlins that would land them Carlos Delgado and Juan Pierre for Joe Crede, Aaron Rowand and prospects.

This fire sale **** gets rediculous.
 

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what a coup for the Red Sox....money is not an issue for them so w/o those concerns, its just a matter of players playing to their form....and Beckett is what every Red Sox fan wants...a Yankee killer. That rotation if healthy is the best 1-5 in my mind and Loweel if he gives anything is just icing. I love this move for the Red Sox...

EXACTLY. Boston doesn't give a crap that Lowell is due 18 mill. He's well worth the gamble if it includes Beckett. Now that our front office is a buch of tight a$$e$, I wish their was a salary cap. It's crazy the amount of money NYY, NYM, BOS, and other teams throw around. We can't compete with that. The worst part is that they ruin the FA market every offseason with the rediculous amount of money they give to average FA's. Why do you think Fat Boy Ortiz got 33 mill last year??? Because the Mets opened the FA market by giving Kris average Benson a 3 year, 21 mill dollar contract. Then Jaret Wright and Carl Pavano signed crazy contracts as well. Boston will be scary next year if they resign Damon and if Schilling&Lowell return to form.
 

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Reports circulating now are that if Konerko walks (which there's about a 70-75 percent chance of), the Sox could swing a deal with the Marlins that would land them Carlos Delgado and Juan Pierre for Joe Crede, Aaron Rowand and prospects.

This fire sale **** gets rediculous.

I've heard the same thing. The White SSox are horrible at resigning their big FA's. They just won the WS and cashed in big but won't even sniff what Konerko wants. They've been dangling Rowand so they can get CF prospect Brian Anderson (spent second half on the ML roster) in as the everday CF. If they don't resign Konerko, 1B and CF are open. They would prob let Konerko walk, trade Rowand, Crede (who they almost traded to FLA at the all star break), Brian Anderson and get Delgado and Pierre. This trade makes a ton of sense cause its good for both teams. Chi Sox would almost get better and FLA would cut more payroll and get decent players
 

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EXACTLY. Boston doesn't give a crap that Lowell is due 18 mill. He's well worth the gamble if it includes Beckett. Now that our front office is a buch of tight a$$e$, I wish their was a salary cap. It's crazy the amount of money NYY, NYM, BOS, and other teams throw around. We can't compete with that. The worst part is that they ruin the FA market every offseason with the rediculous amount of money they give to average FA's. Why do you think Fat Boy Ortiz got 33 mill last year??? Because the Mets opened the FA market by giving Kris average Benson a 3 year, 21 mill dollar contract. Then Jaret Wright and Carl Pavano signed crazy contracts as well. Boston will be scary next year if they resign Damon and if Schilling&Lowell return to form.

Anna Benson's worth 21 million, not Kris. Come to think, I've never seen what the hype is in that guy. Same with Pavano and Wright, who capitalized on career years to get fat contracts.

At least Ortiz (although overpaid) has had a pretty productive career.

Also, rumor has it Lowell could be sent to the Twins for Kyle Lohse, JC Romero, minor leaguer Scott Baker and cash.
 

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Anna Benson's worth 21 million, not Kris. Come to think, I've never seen what the hype is in that guy. Same with Pavano and Wright, who capitalized on career years to get fat contracts.

At least Ortiz (although overpaid) has had a pretty productive career.

Also, rumor has it Lowell could be sent to the Twins for Kyle Lohse, JC Romero, minor leaguer Scott Baker and cash.

Kris Benson svcks. His wife, on the other hand, is awesome. Nothin beats her on Howard Stern talking about how she's had sex with Kris in every MLB city and that if he ever cheated on her that she would sleep with everyone on the team, including the bat boys! Pavano and Wright had contract years and then the NYY proceeded to extremely overpay them. All 3 of those chumps had a great '05. Cripe!
 

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the twins have been wanting lowell for a long time now .. i could actually see him fitting in better with MN ... his defense is still stellar, he's just lost at the plate

as for beckett, if healthy he can be absolute shut out material ... if his curve is on, it's one of the sickest pitches i've ever seen (although the blisters have hampered it in recent years)

the guy carries a texas sized ego though, but that isn't anything unusual in boston

he should be successful there and he gets up for big games .... a good move for the sox, definitely better than overpaying for AJ Burnett

i've also heard pierre going to the cubs and loduca making a return home.........
 

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Kris Benson svcks. His wife, on the other hand, is awesome. Nothin beats her on Howard Stern talking about how she's had sex with Kris in every MLB city and that if he ever cheated on her that she would sleep with everyone on the team, including the bat boys!

I remember that interview well. As a matter of fact, I actually began calling the Met offices to see if they needed any extra employees after that interview. :biglaugh:
 

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MigratingOsprey said:
the twins have been wanting lowell for a long time now .. i could actually see him fitting in better with MN ... his defense is still stellar, he's just lost at the plate

as for beckett, if healthy he can be absolute shut out material ... if his curve is on, it's one of the sickest pitches i've ever seen (although the blisters have hampered it in recent years)

the guy carries a texas sized ego though, but that isn't anything unusual in boston

he should be successful there and he gets up for big games .... a good move for the sox, definitely better than overpaying for AJ Burnett

i've also heard pierre going to the cubs and loduca making a return home.........

I would be surprised if the twins got Lowell. They usually don't take on big contracts and Lowell was horrible last year. He did win the gold glove, but was a mess at the plate (IMO cause he was off the roids). I know the Cubs were going after Pierre hard but backked off because FLA wanted two of their pitching prospects. The Cubs didn't want another D-Train to happen to them again (the Cubs traded Willis to FLA). I'm really hoping we can pull off a deal for Pierre:thumbup: .
 

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MigratingOsprey said:
blech ... another stupid firesale

stupid florida and their stupid inability to get a stadium done

stupid weak florida based fans

Hate too see Beckett go, but at least they got a couple of needed prospects in return. Ramirez will probably be thrown into the SS position and alex gonzalez will be allowed to walk. Andino showed at the end of last year and during the fall league that he just isn't ready.

Absolutely love mike lowell and all that he has done for the marlins, but the guy is done and his contract was an albatross ... when you are in a position like florida, you can't afford to have a single bad deal

also talk about delgado and loduca being shipped out

so frustrating.............

May be frustrating but the Marlins seem to be capable of winning a title...going through a fire sale...then reloading and winning another title. I mean, what, they won two within the last decade. Outside of Yankee fans, find me any fans who wouldn't be ok with winning a couple titles every decade in exchange for going through some fire sales.

As for the stadium issue down there...I cannot figure out why A) the state/city won't step up at all, and B) why baseball fans down there are seemingly so indifferent.

They get a team that wins it all (I think I read somewhere that the Marlins have NEVER lost a playoff series) which is what fans the world over want from their teams.
 

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