Biedrins 6yrs/63 mil?

[carey]

Wow, maybe Diaw isn't overpaid.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3507385

 

[Mainstreet]

Wow, maybe Diaw isn't overpaid.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3507385

You read my mind exactly. Some of the new contracts are making Diaw's contract look more reasonable.

 

[High Stakes]

WOW, that sounds like a suns move...I mean he is decent but wow...i think the warriors are just making awful moves and digginv themselves a whole...overpaid for maggette and the monta move is decent but he is just a little better than leandro...later GS

 

[Mainstreet]

WOW, that sounds like a suns move...I mean he is decent but wow...i think the warriors are just making awful moves and digginv themselves a whole...overpaid for maggette and the monta move is decent but he is just a little better than leandro...later GS

Yeah, but I like watching all the player movement... but from an outsider's perspective.

However, you know they are going to come out running and gunning. They will be a fun team to watch and a scary team to play on any given night. Their front office plays an open style like the team.

 

[mojorizen7]

Omg

 

[da_suns_fan]

HAS to be fallout from losing Baron Davis.

Biedrins lucked out.

 

[Irish]

With the price of bigs now, I'm becoming concerned about Robin's contract already.

 

[Bufalay]

Monta Ellis is much better than Barbosa.

 

[Forrestham]

He is a good player that had decent stats. There is no way in heck that he deserves this contract. We dont know how good or bad he will be yet. The is the kind of contract that can put a ball and chain on a team for years. Are they that much better with him? Is there another team ready to pay that much money. The good franchises know when to let a player walk

 

[Irish]

He is a good player that had decent stats. There is no way in heck that he deserves this contract. We dont know how good or bad he will be yet. The is the kind of contract that can put a ball and chain on a team for years. Are they that much better with him? Is there another team ready to pay that much money. The good franchises know when to let a player walk

If you are talking about Biedriens, the answer is that Russian teams ARE prepared to put up that kind of money. He is a European and does not count against their limit on number of American players.

As for Ellis, I am surprised at how much he got. My understanding is that they plan to make him into a combo guard. I'm skeptical, but they have a huge hole to fill with Baron leaving.

 

[dodie53]

Monta Ellis is much better than Barbosa.

no doubt

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Monta Ellis is much better than Barbosa.

Absolutely. Not even close.

If you are talking about Biedriens, the answer is that Russian teams ARE prepared to put up that kind of money. He is a European and does not count against their limit on number of American players.

Yep, they had to pay 10M per, or lose him for nothing. Hard choice.

 

[Mainstreet]

He is a good player that had decent stats. There is no way in heck that he deserves this contract. We dont know how good or bad he will be yet. The is the kind of contract that can put a ball and chain on a team for years. Are they that much better with him? Is there another team ready to pay that much money. The good franchises know when to let a player walk

I use Dampier as sort of a barometer for big men with bad contracts. IMO, Biedrins is only 22 with improving stats each year. He had 10.5 PPG, 9.8 RPG and 1.0 APG in 2008. Like it or not you have to pay him the money in the present market and bank on his upside. However, I can't help but wonder if Diaw would post better stats if he were the starting center for the GSW.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I use Dampier as sort of a barometer for big men with bad contracts. IMO, Biedrins is only 22 with improving stats each year. He had 10.5 PPG, 9.8 RPG and 1.0 APG in 2008. Like it or not you have to pay him the money in the present market and bank on his upside. However, I can't help but wonder if Diaw would post better stats if he were the starting center for the GSW.

I guarantee that he could.

 

[Irish]

However, I can't help but wonder if Diaw would post better stats if he were the starting center for the GSW.

Offensively, you might be right. Biedrins has very little range and ball handling skills. In the playoffs Diaw averaged just under 15 ppg and 54.7%.

Defensively, Biedrins is a great rebounder with 9.8 rpg in just 27.3 minutes (0.355 per minute). and has 1.2 blocks per game. On a team with a poor defense, he's a crucial piece.

 

[Suns_fan69]

I've always seen Biedrins as a slightly smaller (and I'm not just talking about the hair) version of Ben Wallace; extremely limited offensively, a beast defensively. I still think he's overpaid but as someone else said that's the market for young, competent bigs in today's NBA.

 

[Mainstreet]

I guarantee that he could.

I agree. I wonder if Phoenix ever explored any trade possibilities with the GSW. Also I think if if a young team were willing to make the commitment to start Diaw at center, I don't think he would disappoint. There are so many average centers in the NBA.

 

[JoRain]

I've always seen Biedrins as a slightly smaller (and I'm not just talking about the hair) version of Ben Wallace; extremely limited offensively, a beast defensively. I still think he's overpaid but as someone else said that's the market for young, competent bigs in today's NBA.

actually before coming to NBA he was a lot better offensively. He was even shooting and hitting an ocasional three pointer. After coming to NBA he was told to forget all that and work on D. He just needs to work and remember those shooting skills. He also has a career high 33 points in the NBA.

 

[mathbzh]

Given his size athletism and young age, I don't think this contract is that big. I mean, he already averages a double/double, he end the season with a 14pts/14rbds month... He also improved his FT shooting to a decent 62% not bad for a guy who made every NBA fan laugh with his FT attempts a few years ago.
At worse he will be a sligthly overpaid defensive player.

I don't know how much he can improve his offensive game and if he can add some range to his shooting (his shooting repartition is crazy). But if he can do this, his contract may look like a bargain in a few years.

 

[The_Matrix]

What's exciting about Biedrins is his league-leading 63% field goal shooting. He dunks everything he can in the low post, and can do basic post moves too. He's got a suprising amount of offensive fluidity. Consider that before comparing him to Ben Wallace.

 

[MastersofCombat]

According to the mathematical formula to find a players worth, this is how Andris Biedrins plays out.

On the open free agent market Andris full value comes in at 10.7 million per year. Which at 6 yrs equates to about 62.4 million.. (Wow did nailed that one, and also nailed Diops contract 6 yr 31million http://scoutingthenba.com)

On a team that is resigning their player a year ahead or what we call moneyball a players true value. Biedrins comes in at 8.922 million x 6 years which would equate to about 54million

Andris Biedrin only produced at a value through performance on court at a rate of 6.2million for the season. So this is why fans see this as such an overpayment to value worth. Golden State is basing is salary on being a winning franchise with Andris being one of the top 3-4 players on the team.
That is what that monies(contract means)


Even though it is very hard to read, theres a program that slots current player values. http://scoutingthenba.com

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

According to the mathematical formula to find a players worth, this is how Andris Biedrins plays out.

On the open free agent market Andris full value comes in at 10.7 million per year. Which at 6 yrs equates to about 62.4 million.. (Wow did nailed that one, and also nailed Diops contract 6 yr 31million http://scoutingthenba.com)

On a team that is resigning their player a year ahead or what we call moneyball a players true value. Biedrins comes in at 8.922 million x 6 years which would equate to about 54million

Andris Biedrin only produced at a value through performance on court at a rate of 6.2million for the season. So this is why fans see this as such an overpayment to value worth. Golden State is basing is salary on being a winning franchise with Andris being one of the top 3-4 players on the team.
That is what that monies(contract means)


Even though it is very hard to read, theres a program that slots current player values. http://scoutingthenba.com

Actually, AB's contract is really for 54million; it can get to 63 if he meets incentives, from ESPN:

The Golden State Warriors officially re-signed center Andris Biedrins to a six-year contract Monday worth a guaranteed $54 million and potentially topping $62 million with incentives.

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ESPN.com reported Sunday night that the restricted free agent and the Warriors had reached a verbal agreement, enabling Golden State to realize its top offseason priority -- re-signing Biedrins and fellow restricted free agent Monta Ellis.

NBA front-office sources said Monday night that Biedrins' deal will pay $9 million annually for each of the next six seasons, with a player option included for Biedrins to return to free agency in the summer of 2013 after the fifth year.

Biedrins averaged career-highs with 10.5 points and 9.8 rebounds with the Warriors last season, his fourth with the club that drafted him with the 11th overall pick in 2004. He also led the NBA in field-goal percentage, making 62.6 percent of his shots.

After fielding interest from at least one Russian club this summer, the Latvian center elected to rejoin Ellis, who signed a six-year, $66 million deal to return to Golden State last Thursday.

"We're extremely happy to have Andris under contract for many years to come," said Chris Mullin, the Warriors' top basketball executive. "He is clearly one of the top young centers in the NBA, and much like [Ellis], he has continued to improve every season. It's not easy to find quality young big men in this league, but we certainly think we have one of them, and he's only 22 years old."

It still seem a little high, but if he can eliminate his foul trouble, and be on the floor a little longer while continuing his upward trend, this contract will look like a huge discount in the fairly near future.

Keep in mind AB is about the age of the Kids that are just now coming out of college.

However, if AB does not continue to improve, you can chalk this up in a long line of bad contracts the Warriors have given their bigs in recent memory.

 

[passenger]

Biedrins is not as limited as Ben Wallace offensively,the only think we could compare would be FT percentage but Biedrins did a good job last year and showed he can improve himself in that field.

Warriors didn't want him to go to a Russian or Greek team,because they know a 8m$ offer there can be equivelant to 13-14m$ here,because of high taxes in the USA.

Warriors panicked a bit and didn't want to lose their best rebounder,defender.And I think it's a bit high but this kid can improve,he is still so young,he averaged double double.I think he is worth that contract.Problem is how come a player like Barnes is getting a vet's minimum and so many useless players out there have an average 6m$ a year contracts

An athletic,young,talented Biedrins has 10 m$ contract but an old,slow Shaq has 20m.

 

[passenger]

And definitely Monte Ellis is worth 10 Barbosa
I think Warriors overpaid for Maggette,just to take revenge of Clippers' Dabis move.