Brian Hoyer

[Totally_Red]

Gets the start for the Brownies this week according to Ian Rapoport of NFLN.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Sounds like the Browns fans are already going through what we experienced last year.

 

[Southpaw]

Brandon Weeden ain't the answer. Chud and Norv probably figured that out.

 

[PDXChris]

Brandon Weeden ain't the answer. Chud and Norv probably figured that out.

Weeded is hurt. Sprained thumb on his throwing hand.

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

Weeded is hurt. Sprained thumb on his throwing hand.

 

[Southpaw]

Weeded is hurt. Sprained thumb on his throwing hand.

Oh.

 

[PDXChris]

Oh.

but I am sure they figured that out 6 months ago. They figured he was thier best shot at Teddy.

 

[Southpaw]

but I am sure they figured that out 6 months ago. They figured he was thier best shot at Teddy.

I have Teddy at the top of my All Overrated Draftable players list. He is probably the best of a very bad QB class.

 

[Shane]

8-11 124 yards and 2 TD's on the road in Minnesota so far WOW

 

[Metcalf Rules]

He's won as many games for the Browns as Palmer has for the Cardinals.

 

[gmabel830]

Was Cameron Jordan drafted the same year as Housler? If so, was he drafted later? He looks like we hoped Housler would look this year.

 

[DeAnna]

so it wasn't hoyer that stunk, it was the system?

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

Couldn't and didn't succeed behind this offensive line. Very few could

 

[DeAnna]

Was Cameron Jordan drafted the same year as Housler? If so, was he drafted later? He looks like we hoped Housler would look this year.

Don't know but Housler has NOT lived up to his billing,

 

[gmabel830]

Just looked it up... Housler was drafted in the 3rd round in 2011, Jordan was drafted in the 4th round of 2011.

Housler has 0 career TD catches. Jordan has 3 TD catches.... today!

 

[Dayman]

Was Cameron Jordan drafted the same year as Housler? If so, was he drafted later? He looks like we hoped Housler would look this year.

Indeed he was. He went one pick before Acho in the 4th. Housler went in the 3rd.

Oh, and NFL sack leader Justin Houston went one pick after Housler.

 

[Metcalf Rules]

Couldn't and didn't succeed behind this offensive line. Very few could

Good point. I used to think to myself, geez if the Cards could have just gotten Peyton Manning.. but then with the o'line, he probably wouldn't have near the numbers he's putting up in Denver.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

Indeed he was. He went one pick before Acho in the 4th. Housler went in the 3rd.

Oh, and NFL sack leader Justin Houston went one pick after Housler.

The evaluation of talent during the Whisenhunt era was horrible. From the very first draft pick (Levi Brown) right down to the Kolb debacle.

 

[kerouac9]

The evaluation of talent during the Whisenhunt era was horrible. From the very first draft pick (Levi Brown) right down to the Kolb debacle.

Well, it's a good thing that we elevated Draft Guru Steve Keim to the General Manager's position. Certainly his position didn't give him any responsibility over those draft decisions.

 

[PDXChris]

Well, it's a good thing that we elevated Draft Guru Steve Keim to the General Manager's position. Certainly his position didn't give him any responsibility over those draft decisions.

What does this have to do with Brian Hoyer? Or is it just another reason to call Keim a Super Scout without actually saying it?








These all apply

 

[gmabel830]

What does this have to do with Brian Hoyer? Or is it just another reason to call Keim a Super Scout without actually saying it?

Well, technically I started it by bringing up Cameron Jordan, who caught all of Hoyer's TD passes today.

 

[kerouac9]

What does this have to do with Brian Hoyer? Or is it just another reason to call Keim a Super Scout without actually saying it?








These all apply

Because whether you like it or not, Steve Keim was part of that evaluation process. Ken Whisenhunt wasn't with the Arizona Cardinals when Brian Hoyer was cut; Steve Keim pulled the trigger on that one.



Is there something you can deny about Keim being a part of the decision-making process for nearly all of those questionable moves? Or do you not want to actually talk about football?

 

[Proteus]

so it wasn't hoyer that stunk, it was the system?

The system worked.

 

[PDXChris]

Because whether you like it or not, Steve Keim was part of that evaluation process. Ken Whisenhunt wasn't with the Arizona Cardinals when Brian Hoyer was cut; Steve Keim pulled the trigger on that one.



Is there something you can deny about Keim being a part of the decision-making process for nearly all of those questionable moves? Or do you not want to actually talk about football?

OK, lets talk facts about the football decisions that we do know.

1. Keim Wanted AP over Levi
2. When Whiz got his new contract, he had final say on all football related decisions
3. One of the final straws for Bidwill was Whiz's evaluation on R. Wilson, not Keim's.
4. The talent obtained from the draft went downhill when Whiz had control.
5. We have no clue were Keim had players ranked, but Whiz is no longer here and Keim is.
6. Whiz hand picked all QB's.
7. Hoyer threw three INT's yesterday with a great LT and TE playing for him.
8. We DO NOT know if Houlser or Williams were picks from Keim or Whiz, but we do know that Whiz had final say.
9. All except one 2013 draft pick is on the roster and the one was a 6th round risk that did not make it due to health, not skill.

Did I miss anything? So, based on the facts, to pin so much on Keim is a biased exaggeration since we do not know enough and anyone claiming to know more is fooling themselves. The funny part is, you were so quick to make an exaggeration for the positive in the case of the Steelers, but I cannot remember that last time you made a positive comment about the Cardinals. That really says a lot to me.

 

[BigRedRage]

Hoyer I believe threw 3 picks by the time the game was over.