Bruce Arians is dead wrong about college quarterbacks?

[juza76]

pretty interesting to read
i love the man but after he threw our season in the trash naming lindley the starter without searching for a veteran make me wondering about his ability to evaluate qb's


http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...uence-of-spread-qbs-prove-their-critics-wrong

 

[Shane]

Well to his and most evaluating QB's credit it is no exact science.

 

[BigRedRage]

i like how they try to use rg3 and pumpernickle to make their point when in reality, both of them have been a flash in a pan and a failure since.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I tend to think the safer bet is that Dennis Dodd, author of the article, is dead wrong about quarterbacks.

 

[blindseyed]

I tend to think the safer bet is that Dennis Dodd, author of the article, is dead wrong about quarterbacks.

 

[ARZCardinals]

Choosing and sticking with Lindley made me think twice about his ability to evaluate QB's. That made NO sense to me. Once he failed and failed again....make a change...he didn't and got what we expected.

 

[jw7]

pretty interesting to read
i love the man but after he threw our season in the trash naming lindley the starter without searching for a veteran make me wondering about his ability to evaluate qb's

I don't have a problem with his bringing in Lindley. Arians has a complex offense - even Palmer said it took him half a season to grasp it.

Cards got hit with two bizarre QB injuries last year and he made the choice to bring someone in who knew the offense.

Was it successful? No. But I don't think a vet QB would have done much better in a new system on a week's notice.

 

[DoTheDew]

I don't have a problem with his bringing in Lindley. Arians has a complex offense - even Palmer said it took him half a season to grasp it.

Cards got hit with two bizarre QB injuries last year and he made the choice to bring someone in who knew the offense.

Was it successful? No. But I don't think a vet QB would have done much better in a new system on a week's notice.

Couldn't have said it better.

No team overcomes 2 QB injuries. It takes way too long for someone to come in off the streets and learn a playbook and get timing with WRs on top of which good QBs aren't available in the middle of the season. People who think things would have been different if Arians brought in anyone else who was available when we got Lindley are kidding themselves.

 

[jf-08]

I don't have a problem with his bringing in Lindley. Arians has a complex offense - even Palmer said it took him half a season to grasp it.

Cards got hit with two bizarre QB injuries last year and he made the choice to bring someone in who knew the offense.

Was it successful? No. But I don't think a vet QB would have done much better in a new system on a week's notice.

+1

 

[Metcalf Rules]

I don't have a problem with his bringing in Lindley. Arians has a complex offense - even Palmer said it took him half a season to grasp it.

Cards got hit with two bizarre QB injuries last year and he made the choice to bring someone in who knew the offense.

Was it successful? No. But I don't think a vet QB would have done much better in a new system on a week's notice.

totally agree!

 

[kerouac9]

I tend to think the safer bet is that Dennis Dodd, author of the article, is dead wrong about quarterbacks.

Yeah--there's a lot of confusing process with results here. There's a lot of "Well, why hasn't he taken the next step" that's hidden.

It's an interesting article, but I think he's using Arians's comment to make his own argument. No one thing's it's a college coach's job to develop NFL QBs, but there's little question that top QB recruits should be thinking about who's going to develop them into NFL caliber prospects.

I don't agree with Greg Cosell about much, but he made some good points in Thursday's Ross Tucker Football Podcast about how the wider hash marks in college make the spread offense work in a lot of ways--it makes it harder to evalute NFL talent not only behind center, but at WR and (especially) LB and safety, because the field is so much more open.

 

[ARZCardinals]

I don't have a problem with his bringing in Lindley. Arians has a complex offense - even Palmer said it took him half a season to grasp it.

Cards got hit with two bizarre QB injuries last year and he made the choice to bring someone in who knew the offense.

Was it successful? No. But I don't think a vet QB would have done much better in a new system on a week's notice.

Question then...

Lindley came into the game where Stanton went out...he struggled
He had game 14 - totally failed
He had game 15 - totally failed
He had game 16 - totally failed
Now off to the Playoffs - he started the failure and failed

Sorry, but a coach who just watched a guy fail for 3.5 games with a month of practicing isn't evaluating it very well. Don't get me wrong I love BA as our coach, but I didn't and still don't understand his evaluation of Lindley.

 

[BigRedRage]

Question then...

Lindley came into the game where Stanton went out...he struggled
He had game 14 - totally failed
He had game 15 - totally failed
He had game 16 - totally failed
Now off to the Playoffs - he started the failure and failed

Sorry, but a coach who just watched a guy fail for 3.5 games with a month of practicing isn't evaluating it very well. Don't get me wrong I love BA as our coach, but I didn't and still don't understand his evaluation of Lindley.

what the hell else would he have done? signed teblow?

 

[Phrazbit]

He thought Palmer had something left when many around the nation thought Palmer was done, he was right. He thought Stanton could play well enough to keep the team afloat, he was right.

I'm not going to sweat that Arians QB evaluation diligence was not setup for the doomsday scenario of being down to the 3rd string. He brought in Lindley simply because Lindley knew the playbook, its not like he brought in Lindley and said "this guy is the future".

 

[cardncubfan]

what the hell else would he have done? signed teblow?

He thought Palmer had something left when many around the nation thought Palmer was done, he was right. He thought Stanton could play well enough to keep the team afloat, he was right.

I'm not going to sweat that Arians QB evaluation diligence was not setup for the doomsday scenario of being down to the 3rd string. He brought in Lindley simply because Lindley knew the playbook, its not like he brought in Lindley and said "this guy is the future".

Agree

 

[kerouac9]

Can we stop talking about this? the linked article has nothing to do with Lindley.

 

[cardncubfan]

Can we stop talking about this? the linked article has nothing to do with Lindley.

Since when do threads stay on topic? Lol.

 

[HeavyB3]

We lost that playoff game. Lindley was our QB. He sucked. Let it go.

The NFL is not Madden. I cannot say "Well, Lindley is a 65 overall, so if I just sign some guy off the street who is a 75 overall, he will automatically be better".

Arians got to see practice every day, something we don't get to see. Arians got to see how the two guys that were on the roster, had access to the playbook, and knew the verbiage of the offense could perform in practice and Lindley played better than Thomas. Does that make Lindley good? No. It makes him, a QB in his 3rd year with some starting experience, a little better than Thomas. Bringing in a veteran who no one else wanted would have made no difference in the outcome. We were doomed the second Palmer went down, and royally screwed the second Stanton went down. End of story.

Can we just ban people that insist on bringing up Lindley's ineptitude? Oh and people who still think we should sign Tebow.

 

[jw7]

but I didn't and still don't understand his evaluation of Lindley.

Again, it's not the evaluation of Lindley as a QB. He totally sucks, no argument.

He knows the system, and half the team are offensive players and they can learn the complicated system with Lindley.

Cards had no chance of anything after Palmer and Stanton went down. I would have done the same thing.

 

[don7031]

The spread offense and the flash card system allow college coaches to maximize the return on an inexperienced quarterback by minimizing what they need out of a quarterback. This is the same reason the Triple Option offense abounded in college decades after it was dropped from the Pro game.

In the Pro game the teams get the most they can out of players by emphasizing their roles. It is the polar opposite of what college coaches are doing.