Cardinals need to take BPA always, and not be set and stone with OL

[the_future23]

Yes, OL is abysmal. But good teams draft BPA. If the BPA is an O-Lineman, take him. But if they have a CB, QB, LB ranked higher than where they ranked an OL I sure hope they either trade down or take the BPA rather than reach for position of need.

 

[WildBB]

Yes, OL is abysmal. But good teams draft BPA. If the BPA is an O-Lineman, take him. But if they have a CB, QB, LB ranked higher than where they ranked an OL I sure hope they either trade down or take the BPA rather than reach for position of need.

You'll have one out of G. Smith, Warmack, Fisher, Werner, D. Jordan, J. Cooper, S. Floyd.

Would you like someone else? Milliner gets picked ahead of us easily, btw.

 

[desertdawg]

Yes, OL is abysmal. But good teams draft BPA. If the BPA is an O-Lineman, take him. But if they have a CB, QB, LB ranked higher than where they ranked an OL I sure hope they either trade down or take the BPA rather than reach for position of need.

Lions have been drafting BPA for a long time now. I think it's a mix of need and BPA mixed with a whole lot of luck, then you have to surround that luck with good coaching. If your team is set at a position, then your team is set at that position, same with needs. This year's draft class of fat asses does tickle my fancy, I'd be happy if we drafted any of the top 3 at #7.

 

[BigRedRage]

bpa is part of why we didnt draft linemen for years. BPA plus holes

 

[JeffGollin]

The BPA concept gets a bit tricky when you're comparing OT's to QB's to pass rushers to CB's etc.

I may consider a LT the BPA at #7, but - working with slightly different criteria - you might favor an edge-rushing DE or OLB.

Our decision to draft Levi over Peterson might, on face value, be considered a matter of reaching for need instead of drafting the BPA. I'd disagree. I don't think anyone felt that Levi was the better option than Peterson because we needed a LT. It was more a matter of feeling that Peterson was damaged goods and too much of an injury risk. I personally feel we got what we expected in Levi but made the wrong decision (for all the right reasons) on Peterson.

 

[oaken1]

there is a good chance that at #7 the BPA will indeed be an O-lineman anyway.........imo there are a few linemen who could be argued to be bpa at #7 if they are there.....for once, I would like to see this team get "the BEST of a great class" instead of "one of a great class".....too many times we have allowed the depth at a particular position influence us to wait and draft that position later.

 

[MWOOD92]

You need to balance NEED and BPA. You can't just go for one or the other, if you want to be successful.

 

[GuernseyCard]

You need to balance NEED and BPA. You can't just go for one or the other, if you want to be successful.

Balance BPA with need. Need should never supersede talent.

 

[AzStevenCal]

You need to take BPA until presented with an overriding reason to do otherwise. Not having a starting quarterback would qualify as an overriding reason to do otherwise but the QB prospects just aren't there IMO. If every team in the NFL had two young but very average QB's on their roster, none of this year's crop of QBs would go in the first two rounds. The same isn't true for the OL talent and our needs are almost as pressing. Fortunately, we shouldn't have to reach to improve our OL this year as there are a few guys worthy of a top 10 slot.

Steve

 

[MWOOD92]

Balance BPA with need. Need should never supersede talent.

I never said one superseded the other.

 

[kerouac9]

Didn't straight BPA leave us with ANOTHER wide receiver in the Top 10 last year? I agree that you shouldn't reach down a tier (or even two) because you need a particular player, but I don't have a problem with filtering the best players considering where your most dire needs are.

I have no problem taking Milliner if he's available.

 

[GuernseyCard]

I never said one superseded the other.

Pick a lane, mate!

Every time you address the issue your sentence begins with "need" followed by "BPA".

 

[JeffGollin]

Two "outs" to being locked into a BPA concept:

1. If there are 3 or 4 players rated close together, you can bend the rules and pick any of the four & not necessarily the dude rated highest.

2. if you don't need a player who's clearly the BPA when you pick, you can always try to trade out of the pick to a team who really wants that player

 

[GuernseyCard]

Two "outs" to being locked into a BPA concept:

1. If there are 3 or 4 players rated close together, you can bend the rules and pick any of the four & not necessarily the dude rated highest.

2. if you don't need a player who's clearly the BPA when you pick, you can always try to trade out of the pick to a team who really wants that player

3. You pick the player and adjust your lineup.

 

[MWOOD92]

Pick a lane, mate!

Every time you address the issue your sentence begins with "need" followed by "BPA".

Need and BPA. It's the same exact thing if I said BPA and need. It all depends on the situation whether you consider BPA to outweigh need and vice versa. It's called balancing, mate! I don't need to choose a "lane".

 

[dreamcastrocks]

BPA always. You never know when you 'need' another player. Injuries happen.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Need and BPA. It's the same exact thing if I said BPA and need. It all depends on the situation whether you consider BPA to outweigh need and vice versa. Balancing, mate!

It's not the same thing.

Need outweighing talent is the type of thinking that has one reaching for a Geno Smith when you have a possible pro bowl guard on the board.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Guernsey, what is your other 'football' club?

 

[MWOOD92]

It's not the same thing.

Need outweighing talent is the type of thinking that has one reaching for a Geno Smith when you have a possible pro bowl guard on the board.

Need AND BPA is the same exact thing as BPA AND need. Haha you obviously don't have a clue as to what I'm saying.

CB graded 95 vs OLB graded 94. Who would you pick?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Need AND BPA is the same exact thing as BPA AND need. Haha you obviously don't have a clue as to what I'm saying.

CB graded 95 vs OLB graded 94. Who would you pick?

The CB every time.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Guernsey, what is your other 'football' club?

The Spurs.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

The Spurs.

Good luck against Arsenal over the weekend. Huge game.

Be sure to come over to the World Sports section. We talk BPL over there among other things.

Welcome btw.

 

[MWOOD92]

The CB every time.

Either you're too stubborn to agree or just flat out clueless. But that's okay.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Need AND BPA is the same exact thing as BPA AND need. Haha you obviously don't have a clue as to what I'm saying.

CB graded 95 vs OLB graded 94. Who would you pick?

You're right. I don't understand how anyone can confuse two distinct approaches with evident different emphasis and claim they're the same.

94 and 95 are close enough to go either way.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Good luck against Arsenal over the weekend. Huge game.

Be sure to come over to the World Sports section. We talk BPL over there among other things.

Welcome btw.

Thank you. I'll take a gander.