Cards 3rd most inured team this year

[General Chaos]

Per John Clayton:

• The List: Ten franchises had starting players combine to miss more than 50 games during the 2007 regular season and only two of those teams, Indianapolis and Washington, qualified for the playoffs. The aggregate record of the 10 teams was 68-92. The list of teams that lost starters for more than 50 games: Buffalo, 89; Indianapolis, 81; Arizona, 75; St. Louis, 71; Miami, 70; Houston, 65; Denver, 63; Chicago, 61; Baltimore, 57; and Washington, 57.

 

[Skkorpion]

Thanks for posting that, Chaos. Interesting stuff.

 

[slanidrac16]

We should all take note of that from here on out before we start blasting our coaching staff.

I knew we had a lot of injuries but I didn't think that much.

 

[green machine]

The interesting thing to me is where the teams were hit with injuries. I mean, the Colts survived theirs, but what if they lost their QB? Buffalo, Arizona, St. Louis, Miami, Houston, Baltimore, and Washington all lost their QB's to injury for a significant amount of time.

 

[joko4]

Ranking third on that list and still ending 8-8 at the end of the year is impressive. Few teams could do that, and top that with a new coaching staff
to boot. Bring it on 2008.

 

[joeshmo]

2/3rds of those 75 games came after Week 8 yet we won 5 out of 3 compared to 3-5 to begin the season when we were by far at our healthiest. Goes to show how important it is to get a good start.

Also our number should be 59 (still top 10 though). Oliver Ross was never, ever going to be the starter from minute one after we drafted his replacement with the #5 pick.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

2/3rds of those 75 games came after Week 8 yet we won 5 out of 3 compared to 3-5 to begin the season when we were by far at our healthiest. Goes to show how important it is to get a good start.

Also our number should be 59 (still top 10 though). Oliver Ross was never, ever going to be the starter from minute one after we drafted his replacement with the #5 pick.

thats not what the coaching staff publically said. You are probably right though.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Not surprised at this in the least.

The NFL community was throwing this HUGE pity party for the Rams and I wanted to puke every time I had to hear it.

We lost:
Starting QB for the year (IR)
Both starting WR's for length's of time
Both starting OLB's for long length's of time and both ended up on the IR
Our projected starting RT (IR), our backup rookie RT for a length of time
One of our starting CB (IR)
Our best defensive player and starting SS (IR)
The backup SS for a length of time
Our starting ILB for a length of time
Our starting C for a length of time.

And still went 8-8 and we were in every game except Seattle at Seattle.

That is A LOT of injuries at some key positions.

!!! Notice that RB is no where on that list !!! Edge is unbreakable.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

2/3rds of those 75 games came after Week 8 yet we won 5 out of 3 compared to 3-5 to begin the season when we were by far at our healthiest. Goes to show how important it is to get a good start.

Also our number should be 59 (still top 10 though). Oliver Ross was never, ever going to be the starter from minute one after we drafted his replacement with the #5 pick.

That is a pretty big assumption.

To be fair I would have agreed at the start of this season. But after I saw what our coaching staff did with Gandy I think that is not something I would say is 100% certain.

It doesn't matter anyway cause Levi ended up getting hurt too.

 

[Stout]

We should all take note of that from here on out before we start blasting our coaching staff.

I knew we had a lot of injuries but I didn't think that much.

We do take that into consideration. Believe it or not, I'm not ripping the team to shreds by going 8-8 and missing the playoffs. I'd rather we made it, but we didn't. We did a lot of things well in spite of all those injuries. Unfortunately, we didn't coach well on defense. Couple bad coaching with bad defense, and you get exactly what we got...bad defense.

 

[CardLogic]

!!! Notice that RB is no where on that list !!! Edge is unbreakable.

Now you've gone and done it...

 

[joeshmo]

That is a pretty big assumption.

To be fair I would have agreed at the start of this season. But after I saw what our coaching staff did with Gandy I think that is not something I would say is 100% certain.

It doesn't matter anyway cause Levi ended up getting hurt too.

Dont think so considering Ross is a lot older then Gandy, coaches just asked him to take a pay cut or get cut himself, and after OTA's with Ross as the starter decided to still spend a #5 pick on the 2nd best OT in the draft doesnt say much for what they thought of Ross going into the draft.

 

[cardsfanmd]

2/3rds of those 75 games came after Week 8 yet we won 5 out of 3 compared to 3-5 to begin the season when we were by far at our healthiest. Goes to show how important it is to get a good start.

Also our number should be 59 (still top 10 though). Oliver Ross was never, ever going to be the starter from minute one after we drafted his replacement with the #5 pick.

Also goes to show that Warner was better than Leinart at this point and the team had to learn to keep the game out of Rackers' hands (foot).

 

[green machine]

Also goes to show that Warner was better than Leinart at this point and the team had to learn to keep the game out of Rackers' hands (foot).

It also shows the schedule got considerably easier towards the end. At least, that's what I remember it was supposed to do.

 

[cardsfanmd]

It also shows the schedule got considerably easier towards the end. At least, that's what I remember it was supposed to do.

I disagree. Washington was in injury hell when we played them, Baltimore sucked, SF blows, Seattle is a crummy road team and STL is STL. The only teams that we played this year that were any good in my eyes were Pittsburgh and Cleveland.

 

[green machine]

I disagree. Washington was in injury hell when we played them, Baltimore sucked, SF blows, Seattle is a crummy road team and STL is STL. The only teams that we played this year that were any good in my eyes were Pittsburgh and Cleveland.

The Cards didn't beat one playoff team with Warner as the starting QB.

 

[abomb]

Check the thread title.

inured

in·ure also en·ure (n-yr)
tr.v. in·ured, in·ur·ing, in·ures
To habituate to something undesirable, especially by prolonged subjection; accustom: "Though the food became no more palatable, he soon became sufficiently inured to it" John Barth.



Such is being a Cards fan!!!

 

[cardsfanmd]

The Cards didn't beat one playoff team with Warner as the starting QB.

No, but they helped ruin two teams' chances of making the playoffs in Detroit and Cleveland. Warner also played a key role in beating the Steelers and put us in position to beat the Skins if it were not for D-Dock';s stupid penalty and Rackers being a pansy.

 

[cardsfanmd]

Check the thread title.

inured

in·ure also en·ure (n-yr)
tr.v. in·ured, in·ur·ing, in·ures
To habituate to something undesirable, especially by prolonged subjection; accustom: "Though the food became no more palatable, he soon became sufficiently inured to it" John Barth.



Such is being a Cards fan!!!

 

[Darth Llama]

Oliver Ross was never, ever going to be the starter from minute one after we drafted his replacement with the #5 pick.

I wouldn't be so sure. We heard a lot about Ross and how well he was playing in camp before his injury, and I believe without a shadow of a doubt that this staff felt Levi needed at least a year on the bench to learn. I have no doubt at all Ross would have been the starter and Levi would have spent his first season providing quality depth.

Looking at the injured list just makes me laugh when people bash Whiz and the job he did this year. He took a 5 win team in his rookie season as a head coach, endured the 3rd most injuries in the NFL, combined with a cross eyed field goal kicker, and a handful of other inconsistent players, and got us to .500 in year one.

In my opinion, that's impressive.

 

[joeshmo]

I wouldn't be so sure. We heard a lot about Ross and how well he was playing in camp before his injury, and I believe without a shadow of a doubt that this staff felt Levi needed at least a year on the bench to learn. I have no doubt at all Ross would have been the starter and Levi would have spent his first season providing quality depth.

Dont buy it one bit. Staff is not that dumb to pick a player with the #5 pick to sit on the bench for 1 year, unless you are a QB. They just are not that dumb to waste a pick like that for quality depth.

If Ross was playing so well which is just PR stories then why did they ask him to take a pay cut or get cut. That does not scream confidence nor picking your replacement with a #5 pick.

 

[CaptTurbo]

We did great with injuries and Whiz deserves kudos. My complaints with Whiz have nothing to do with personnel or even coaching for the most part (except for the fact he cannot make a dent in penalities). Most of my complaints come in managing.

 

[Darth Llama]

If Ross was playing so well which is just PR stories then why did they ask him to take a pay cut or get cut. That does not scream confidence nor picking your replacement with a #5 pick.

That's not exactly how it happened.

When Whiz and company took over, there were cap issues and some people had to go. Ross had underperformed under his previous coach, so naturally they went to him first and asked him if he would be willing to take a pay cut to remain, and he agreed. He took a pay cut for one year to get a chance to prove himself. At the time Ross got hurt, he was our projected starter. If they just thought he sucked, they wouldn't have offered him the chance to prove himself even for minimum money.

The argument is moot since he never got to play, but I still think Ross has some game in him. He was bad under Dennis Green, but he was a solid player in Pittsburgh, and in my opinion, he's worth keeping. I am betting he takes another pay cut so he can get another shot. Rather he was going to start or not, he was a quality tackle and his injury was a huge blow to the Cardinals especially considering other injuries on the line. Oliver Ross would have been a good player to have on our roster last year either way.

 

[Darth Llama]

We did great with injuries and Whiz deserves kudos. My complaints with Whiz have nothing to do with personnel or even coaching for the most part (except for the fact he cannot make a dent in penalities). Most of my complaints come in managing.

Understandable, but remember, he is a rookie head Coach. We had to expect mistakes, it was unavoidable. Just as some of our players need to improve next year, so does our coach. It's hard to be patient with a franchise that's been losing for longer then anyone can remember, but the sad fact is, patience is a must. We can't give up on a guy after 1 season.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

We did great with injuries and Whiz deserves kudos. My complaints with Whiz have nothing to do with personnel or even coaching for the most part (except for the fact he cannot make a dent in penalities). Most of my complaints come in managing.

And in playcalling which is something that I do agree with.

Haley should call the plays and then Whiz can concentrate on managing.