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Now this is my fantasy mock. It wont come to this but i can dream.


The CBA won’t be signed before the Draft so a lot of teams will wait until the draft or after to sign Free agents.
After The Draft FA pickups: We should have around 25-27M after we sign our own players.

Free Agents we sign: 1EA – (High Priced), 3 – (Mid Priced)

LOG – Logan Mankins – (High Priced) – 7-9 M - One of the nastiest LG in the league. This would really improve the left side and protect the QB and Arizona goes all out on this guy. Russ is singing Billy Idol songs because he is so happy. I don’t think he will get the Tag so I am projecting him as a FA.

LOT – Jared Gaither –Balt – (Mid Priced) 3-5M. They cannot sign all their players and M. Oher has already taken over the LT spot. He was out this year due to a bad disk and is almost back to norm and should be by training camp.

OLB – Matt Roth –Cleveland – (Mid Priced) 3-5M - Stout run stuffing OLB that has improved each year in Cleveland.

TE - Kevin Boss – NYG – (Mid Priced) 2-4M- Very good blocker and a TE who can make the catch over the middle. Major upgrade for the Cardinals. Could be there best pick-up in years.

5 mil – back-up and role and special team players.

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QB – Kevin Knob - Philadelphia – Arizona Trades a 2012 second and 5throunder for K. Knob. Young player who is just coming into his prime. Some like him and some don’t. I like him. Yes, Yes, Yes I know that its 2 picks but the Cardinals where in a bidding war and that’s what it will cost us.

1. Carolina – Nick Fairley – DT – Auburn – Carolina needs a DT and they also take the best player in the draft.

2. Denver – Patrick Peterson – CB/S – LSU – with C. Bailey32 yrs old and a FA and P. Cox having legal problems this should be a no brainer.

3. Buffalo - Da’Quan Bowers – DE/OLB - – Buff needs everything across the front 7 and Da’Quan Bowers would be a great fit.

4. Cincinnati Trades # 4 to Detroit for # 13, 44 and 2012 2nd rounder –Prince Amukamara CB – Nebraska – Detroit gets a #1 CB that they sorely need and pay out there nose but he is worth it. This will really help their backfield.

5. Arizona Trades #5 to Tenn for #8 and #72 & 104. Vince Young is to be let go or traded. Kerry Collins and C. Sims are Free Agents. The Titans have no QB under contract. They pay the price and gamble with Bud Adams grace.
Tennessee Select Blaine Gabbath QB Missouri. Now will Bud Adams gamble with no CBA in effect to get his QB of the future? I think so

6. Cleveland – A.J. Green WR – Georgia- The Browns finally get a #1 receiver that they really need. Enough said.

7. S.F. - Von Miller- OLB – Texas A&M – After the Senior bowl Miller has shot up the board from a mid 1st rounder to a Top 10. SF really needs an Edge Rusher and Miller fits that description. Miller is extremely disruptive pass rusher, is great at collapsing the pocket and forcing quarterbacks to step up into quickly closing space but sometimes makes bad decisions by getting too deep in his pass rush. That’s correctable by coaching. Miller has a high motor, is asked to blitz constantly and does not stop pursuing the quarterback until the ball is downfield which SF really needs. He needs to add 5-10 lbs to help stop the run which Miller needs more work on. Good upgrade for SF.

8. Arizona – AZ trades #8 and 72(from Tenn) to Minnesota for # 12 & 43 –Minnesota had to up the ante, with Jax and Miami trying to trade up. With no 3rd rounder Minnesota had to really entice the Cardinals and the Cardinals accept the offer.
Minnesota selects – Ryan Mallett – QB – Arkansas – T. Jackson is not the future and Minnesota. Joe Webb was the starter at the end of the season. Jackson can start and Mallett can be groomed for the 2012 season or start later in the 2011 season.

9. Dallas - Marcel Dareus DT – Alabama – Dallas doesn’t really have any push from the RDE spot. Marcel has the ability to rush the passer and penetrate. Good fit for Dallas.

10. Washington – Jake Locker –QB – Washington- Shanny bullies the front office and gets the QB that he has wanted since the Senior Bowl.

11. Houston – Robert Quinn- OLB – North Carolina – Quinn drops a few spots with his off field problems. The Texan’s are very happy as that’s a major upgrade for then

12. Arizona - Justin Houston – OLB - Georgia – Arizona really needs to upgrade their 3/4OLB and Houston will start of on the LOLB spot. Plus they traded down twice from 5 and get extra picks to upgrade their Defense.

Arizona’s Picks:
1- 12 –Justin Houston - OLB – Georgia - I had A. Smith here but after really looking at to film on Houston I think he would be a perfect fit for the Cardinals at OLB.11 sacks in 2010. He already plays OLB in Georgia’s ¾ defense so he knows how to play the position. He is strong as an Ox and is very quick off the snap, times the count well and has an explosive first step off the line. Have the intangibles to be a big-time pass rusher and solid all-around player and leader in the NFL because of good motor and strong work ethic.

2A - 34 -– Arizona trades # 38 and #133 to Denver for pick #34.
Arizona selects - Martez Wilson SILB – Wilson will surprise a few people with his play and is a major upgrade for the SILB. Wilson is a stout backer who can interrupt guards and occupy blocks, but he also possesses the instincts and sizzle to make plays inside on a regular basis. Can also play OLB with his size and strength. No matter what some will say but he is a perfect fit for our 3/4 Defense.

2B – 43- Phil Taylor NT/DT – Baylor - Huge, powerful, Nasty NT. When he stays low, can stack the point, is impossible to move off the ball, and can split the double team. Strong arms and hands. Keeps blockers off of his body. Nice swim, spin and shed. Excellent quickness and athleticism for a man of his size. Has also dropped back in the zone blitz situations. Nasty hand punch that drives back the OG/C. Paired with Williams/Dockett/Campbell would make this front line fantastic.

3A – 69- John Moffitt – OG/C – Wisconsin – Smash mouth OG that will push D. Lutui for his spot right off the bat or L. Sendlein. Good run blocker, with very solid power... Stays low and generally plays with good leverage. Pulls reasonably well, can get to the second level. Carries his pads low. Real good pass blocker. R. Grimm is singing “O Happy Day”.

3B – 74- Colin Kaeperkick – QB – Nevada - Extremely productive, had over 10,000 passing yards and 4,000 rushing yards. Constantly improving as a passer, completion percentage has increased each season he has played at Nevada. Good decision maker who does not turn over the ball. Great team leader on and off the field. Has played in the Pistol Offense and has to learn on how to take a snap under center. Needs to sit a year or two to learn under Knob with Skelton and could be a starter in the future.

4A – 102 – Casey Matthews WILB – Good blood line. Sideline to sideline player who will backup Washington and could add a few pounds to be better against the run. Just a really good football player.

4B – 104 – Joseph Barksdale – OT – LSU

5B – 136 - Ricardo Lockette – WR – Fort valley St-6-3,200, 4.4. This kid is moving up the board. Has good soft hands and runs a 4.4. When he is done with the combine his stock will rise fast. You want a speedster with good hands that knows how to stretch the field well here he is. This is my sleeper pick.

6A – 166 – Curtis Marsh –CB - Utah State

6B – 179 – Eric Hagg – SS - Nebraska
 
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if they made one trade is enough..i think is like madden scenario

Why is it that other teams do it and they are called pro active and if we do it its madden. No I am going with what i posted.
 

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Can someone explain to me why everyone is in such a hurry to trade back? I don't think I've seen this many trades back in Mock Drafts on this board since 2003. It's just odd, since it never seems to have worked out for us. I'd rather get one elite talent than 3-4 good talents.
 

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Martez Wilson is 6'4" and 250 and runs sub 4.6. Not a typical SILB where guys are 6'2" 240 thumpers. Kelvin Shepard fits better here.

Wilson would be an interesting prospect at 3-4 OLB but I still see him as a Dansby clone and some team will pay to get him for a WILB or OLB in a 4-3.

If the Cards didn't have Washington I'd be all about drafting Wilson.
 
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Can someone explain to me why everyone is in such a hurry to trade back? I don't think I've seen this many trades back in Mock Drafts on this board since 2003. It's just odd, since it never seems to have worked out for us. I'd rather get one elite talent than 3-4 good talents.

If you think we are getting PP7 don't bet on it. He will be gone by the 4th pick. I have Miller, Quinn and Houston rated about the same and thats why i did the trades.
 

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Martez Wilson is 6'4" and 250 and runs sub 4.6. Not a typical SILB where guys are 6'2" 240 thumpers. Kelvin Shepard fits better here.

Wilson would be an interesting prospect at 3-4 OLB but I still see him as a Dansby clone and some team will pay to get him for a WILB or OLB in a 4-3.

If the Cards didn't have Washington I'd be all about drafting Wilson.

Agreed. I used to think he could be a SILB but after looking at it Martez while a very large dude has a skinny base, not something you look for at the SILB spot. He is a WILB or 4-3 OLB prospect IMO.
 

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If you think we are getting PP7 don't bet on it. He will be gone by the 4th pick. I have Miller, Quinn and Houston rated about the same and thats why i did the trades.

I don't think we're getting him necessarily, but I'd much rather have Von Miller. I'd be very surprised if three quarterbacks went in the top ten of this draft. In fact, I don't think Mallett or Locker go until at least after the 15th pick, barring some amazing workouts. There's a possibility that someone jumps ahead in the top 10 to grab one of the QBs they really want, but I believe that A) it won't happen twice, and B) trading out of the top ten is foolish.
 

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Can someone explain to me why everyone is in such a hurry to trade back? I don't think I've seen this many trades back in Mock Drafts on this board since 2003. It's just odd, since it never seems to have worked out for us. I'd rather get one elite talent than 3-4 good talents.
I am with you in not caring to trade back. Rarely can you get a #5 pick and if we choose wisely it can drastically improve our squad. If we pick defense with the #5 than I imagine we can see results pretty soon. On offense, it probably won't be as soon, but it could make all the difference.
 

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I am with you in not caring to trade back. Rarely can you get a #5 pick and if we choose wisely it can drastically improve our squad. If we pick defense with the #5 than I imagine we can see results pretty soon. On offense, it probably won't be as soon, but it could make all the difference.

The problem is the Cards never seem to choose wisely. Either that or don't properly utilize the player they draft.

Leonard Davis #2 overall should have been a Guard played him at Tackle.
Calvin Pace #18 a perfect example of a 3-4 OLB the Cards played at DE in a 4-3 then when they decide to change to a 3-4 let Pace go as a free agent
Antrel Rolle #8 overall better suited to Safety the Cards drafted him to play CB.
Levi Brown #5 overall and the team makes the same mistake they made with LDavis

Oddly enough all taken in odd numbered years. 2001,2003,2005,2007

Well at least this isn't an odd numbered year so maybe there is a chance the Cards won't blow the pick. Fitz in 2004, DRC in 2008 and Dumpster Dan in 2010
 

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The problem is the Cards never seem to choose wisely. Either that or don't properly utilize the player they draft.

Calvin Pace #18 a perfect example of a 3-4 OLB the Cards played at DE in a 4-3 then when they decide to change to a 3-4 let Pace go as a free agent

Calvin Pace shouldn't be an example of us choosing poorly in the top of the draft, he should be coupled with Bryant Johnson as an example of why we shouldn't move back. Terrell Suggs was available at #6, and even though he was a perfect combination of BPA, need, and desire to play in Arizona, we panicked and moved back to "get more talent."

The guy we wanted ended up being gone, and then the two players we ended up with were non-factors for the duration of their time here, sans one average season from Pace.

We missed out on an elite guy as part of moving back. If everything else stayed the same, how happy would we be having Terrell Suggs playing for us right now? The pass rush fears we all have wouldn't be there.
 

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Calvin Pace shouldn't be an example of us choosing poorly in the top of the draft, he should be coupled with Bryant Johnson as an example of why we shouldn't move back. Terrell Suggs was available at #6, and even though he was a perfect combination of BPA, need, and desire to play in Arizona, we panicked and moved back to "get more talent."

The guy we wanted ended up being gone, and then the two players we ended up with were non-factors for the duration of their time here, sans one average season from Pace.

We missed out on an elite guy as part of moving back. If everything else stayed the same, how happy would we be having Terrell Suggs playing for us right now? The pass rush fears we all have wouldn't be there.

I agree but Pace is an example of the Cards not properly utilizing a first round player and fit in with my odd year scenario so I included him. :D

Of course that 2003 draft is really the only time I can remember (note I am old like Derm and 40 year now so forgive me if I missed a draft where the Cards did*) the Cards trading back in the first round so is hardly sufficient data to claim trading back never works out for the Cards even though the statement is theoretically correct.

* Wait a minute. Nobody is as old as 40year not even me.
 

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LOG – Logan Mankins – (High Priced) – 7-9 M - One of the nastiest LG in the league. This would really improve the left side and protect the QB and Arizona goes all out on this guy. Russ is singing Billy Idol songs because he is so happy. I don’t think he will get the Tag so I am projecting him as a FA.

I thought I just read that teams will be able to franchise players after Feb 10th.. And Mankins was gonna be franchised.. Read it from one of the reporters on twitter.. lemme see if i can go find it..
 

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I like the draft, bill belichick would be proud! This team has a lot of holes, so if we can trade back and grab Quinn (if he is still there, which would be sweet) or Houston and grab a few more picks in the process I would be all for it. And it's funny you listed Eric Hagg in the 6th round, I went to high school/graduated with him, it was definitely weird to see a kid I went to HS with listed under one of our mocks! Just saw he had 5 picks, he definitely improved his ball skills this year.
 

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I agree but Pace is an example of the Cards not properly utilizing a first round player and fit in with my odd year scenario so I included him. :D

Of course that 2003 draft is really the only time I can remember (note I am old like Derm and 40 year now so forgive me if I missed a draft where the Cards did*) the Cards trading back in the first round so is hardly sufficient data to claim trading back never works out for the Cards even though the statement is theoretically correct.

* Wait a minute. Nobody is as old as 40year not even me.

I guess you have one up on me. I definitely can't dive into Cardinals' draft history like that, since I think the first time I watched the draft was 1997. Until 1999, I couldn't have even told you who the top prospects were. (I guess that's me revealing my age too. I was 15 when I registered here.)

Still, if there weren't contemporary connections to the regime that botched that trade back (Rod Graves), I wouldn't hold it against the team. I tend to ignore anything not done by the same guys in the front office.

I'm not completely certain though that we utilized Pace in the wrong way, given what we knew at the time. Teams weren't scouting much for 3-4 ends, and if I remember my history correctly, the only teams using the 3-4 at the time were both Pittsburgh and Baltimore. Pace had the size to play as a 4-3 DE, and he had played as a 3-4 end at Wake Forest. He was entirely being projected as a 4-3 DE by every publication I had read, but certainly not as a guy that would go in the first round.

My other point is, in the past five years or so, ignoring last year, we have stayed in place and used the picks that we had, and have hit reasonably well. Getting too fancy seems to have always hamstrung this team.
 
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I thought I just read that teams will be able to franchise players after Feb 10th.. And Mankins was gonna be franchised.. Read it from one of the reporters on twitter.. lemme see if i can go find it..


I was hopeing that he would not get the tag. Maybe switch Mankins with Justin Blaylock from ATL.
 
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Calvin Pace shouldn't be an example of us choosing poorly in the top of the draft, he should be coupled with Bryant Johnson as an example of why we shouldn't move back. Terrell Suggs was available at #6, and even though he was a perfect combination of BPA, need, and desire to play in Arizona, we panicked and moved back to "get more talent."

The guy we wanted ended up being gone, and then the two players we ended up with were non-factors for the duration of their time here, sans one average season from Pace.

We missed out on an elite guy as part of moving back. If everything else stayed the same, how happy would we be having Terrell Suggs playing for us right now? The pass rush fears we all have wouldn't be there.


And thats when we had different people doing the draft evaluations. Look at the last 3 yrs with our new evaluators. They have done pretty good if you ask me.
 
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I don't think we're getting him necessarily, but I'd much rather have Von Miller. I'd be very surprised if three quarterbacks went in the top ten of this draft. In fact, I don't think Mallett or Locker go until at least after the 15th pick, barring some amazing workouts. There's a possibility that someone jumps ahead in the top 10 to grab one of the QBs they really want, but I believe that A) it won't happen twice, and B) trading out of the top ten is foolish.


You have to look at the big picture here. There is no guarantee that they could get a QB in FA. Choices have to be made. 1. Tenn will not have a single QB under contract. 2. Washington will let go of McNabb and Snyder is already talking to Locker. Washington has already talked to Locker at the Senior Bowl and they really like him. Do you think T. Jackson is the future in Minn or Henne in Miami?? NO. Get your young talent while you can.
 

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Oddly enough all taken in odd numbered years. 2001,2003,2005,2007

Well at least this isn't an odd numbered year so maybe there is a chance the Cards won't blow the pick. Fitz in 2004, DRC in 2008 and Dumpster Dan in 2010

2011 is an odd numbered year.
 

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2011 is an odd numbered year.

OOOPs for some reason I was thinking of the 2010 season when I wrote that. We're doomed. They're going to draft an OG and play him at T or an ILB and play him at OLB. Or a slot WR and try to make him our deep threat.

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I agree but Pace is an example of the Cards not properly utilizing a first round player and fit in with my odd year scenario so I included him. :D

Of course that 2003 draft is really the only time I can remember (note I am old like Derm and 40 year now so forgive me if I missed a draft where the Cards did*) the Cards trading back in the first round so is hardly sufficient data to claim trading back never works out for the Cards even though the statement is theoretically correct.

* Wait a minute. Nobody is as old as 40year not even me.



I wasn't going to post this because I don't want to be labeled as Old as the depends pack.

The year Ryan Leaf was drafted we had the #2 pick and traded back to the #3 pick (chargers). Kings ransom we collected on that trade down. We picked up an extra 2nd rd pick (Clements OT), 1st rd pick the next yr (Boston WR/headcase) and players Patrick Sapp (LB) and Metcalf (RB KR PR). There have been more players or picks involved but this is what I do remember.

We took Wadsworth with the #3 pick and he holds out and his career never takes off because of injuries. Clements had a back injury and never became the player he showed flashes of before the injury. Boston was a PHOF player who lost his mind, soul and then career. Sapp never did much of anything. Metcalf was okay and his biggest contribution was the KO return against the Chargers that gave us great field position to win the game and make the playoffs.

Only the Cards have the luck to draft Wadsworth, Clements and Boston and all of them bust due to injuries or mental issues. My reason for wanting to trade back is that at least not all of your money is on one player who could be a bust or sustain an injury. Improve your odds and get extra picks so that if one busts etc at least another pick could still improve your roster. Cards turned 1 pick into at least 5 players and non of them truly panned out. :(
 

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Well at least they didn't stay at #2 and draft Ryan Leaf. One of Jake Plummer's top contributions to the Cardinals.

1998 Mark Smith 9 sacks, Simeon Rice 10 sacks, Wadsworth 5 sacks plus Eric Swann. We all thought we had the Defensive Line that was going to make our defense dominant for years.

But.....:(
 

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Fun stuff!

But, how can we know how much we'd have under the CAP, before a new agreement? And whom of our own FA's are we re-signing?
 

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And thats when we had different people doing the draft evaluations. Look at the last 3 yrs with our new evaluators. They have done pretty good if you ask me.

Cody Brown, Alan Branch, Levi Brown, Rashard Johnson, Early Doucet, and Buster Davis all disagree with you.

I'm sure you're going to throw LSH, Hightower, Toler, and Breaston back at me, but it's more important that your early-round picks work out and become core players. LSH is a fine little 7th round pick, but he doesn't make up for the fact that we still have no one behind Gerald Hayes and got 0 NFL games out of our second-round pass rush specialist.
 
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