i watched a lot about him...like also about other prospect who i like...30 yard X catch is aa joke for u???? he had 820 yeard last season with a bad team who run most of the time..if he was playing for oklahoma or baylor he could have sensational stats...u will see who is right about him..time will show..i remember 2 years a go i was one of the few pushing for daryl washington
You cant compare Hill with Washington. Pre-combine, Washington was already the 2nd-3rd best LB in the draft
Pre-combine, Hill was a 5th round pick.
Thats not remotely close of a comparison. Washington, like Floyd, also had a litany of credentials and numbers to back his draft status. Hill has a fast 40. you dont think theres other guys who wouldve done better in college had they been on a better team?
Floyd and Martin scare the crap out of me....... I think both would be very poor picks. If they want a WR..... why not get someone who isn't like Fitz? If we stick with 13, there will be more players with a much higher positional value than a #2 WR.
Heck..... If that is what they want, then they need to look backwards and focus on Hill and Wright.
A 1st round WR would seriously piss me off knowing we do not have a 2nd rounder to get the O-Lineman we desperately need. Bell or no Bell we need better players along the O-Line. And even though it has been talked about, I would be personally shocked if one of Decastro, Kuechly, Upshaw, or Ingram weren't there at #13.
Martin is a hell no. I think we will be smart enough to avoid him. Whiz was at the pro day and saw first hand what all of us saw. Martin is NOT an NFL caliber player.
Id actually prefer to trade back a bit into the early 20's and grab a 2nd rounder. Early 20's, Floyd might make it there, Melvin Ingram might make it there, BPA overall will be a damn good pick regardless.
In the 2nd we can take a RT or whatever. BPA or need-based in the 2nd depending on what we got in the first
We need Bell though. Hes the key to our draft.
I want to sign Bell, if he checks out medically, but why do you call Martin a proven weak butterball when he did 20 reps and Bell, the guy you want, did only 9
? Martin will get stronger when in a NFL training program.
Bench reps mean nothing. Like fast 40's (Larry ran a 4.7).
dont worry about stats, have you seen martin play, or watched him in position drills? Goodness man, he is visibly weak. When he pushes or pulls a guy, its with extreme effort and the guy (usually a teammate) is dancing with him a bit. If it were an opponent, hed get blown backwards.
In addition to not having the brute strength necessary (although its not THAT important compared to-->) He doesnt have the tenacity. Hes not mean enough. Hes not competetive or aggresive enough. He seems very timid in drills and that adds to his weak performance.
Go to NFL.com, find the Stanford Pro day vids and one of them is about DD and Martin. You wont need to ask why I think hes weak. Just watch for yourself and draw your own conclusions. He looks like OLBs could bull his ass over in the NFL.