Cards Major Free Agents

[General Chaos]

Here are the major free agents the cards could lose. I thought I remembered Antonio Smith being a FA, guess I was wrong. Is this link below accurate?

Eric Green - RFA
Calvin Pace - UFA
Karlos Dansby - UFA
Bryant Johnson - UFA

http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/features/freeagents/fa.php?option=By+Team&y=2008

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Sign Dansby. He is a franchise player if they cannot lock him up.

Pace and Green would be nice to resign if they don't try and price themselves out.

BJ is a good 3rd WR, pretty sure this will be his last game as a Card.

 

[football karma]

I also thought Antonio Smith was a RFA

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Sign Dansby. He is a franchise player if they cannot lock him up.

Pace and Green would be nice to resign if they don't try and price themselves out.

BJ is a good 3rd WR, pretty sure this will be his last game as a Card.

Green like Brown and Blackstock... is a RFA. They have no bargaining power.

(I'd bet they'll all be tendered)

 

[freebyrd]

everybody gets locked up, i think theirs an outside chance we keep bj too, but we'll see,
this isn't the franchise everyone wants to leave anymore, we are no longer the armpit of the nfl,(up yours simeon)we have the best stadium in the league and i think ownership wants to win and is making baby steps in the right direction, they need to increase the learning curve though our time to win is right now,
within the next year and lasting perhaps five years i see us becoming dominate if we make the right moves, but our weaknesses are so easily definable and fixable that there is no excuse for us not to come out guns blazing and lock up the nfc west right out of the gate next season,

we have a core of talent that is peaking in their abilities at just the right time, do something to fix our secondary and help get us an outside pass rusher and a break away running back and boys and girls we are there,
can ya feel me?
i really thought we had a crazy hollywood script ending in store this year that would have allowed us to be the first team in history to play the superbowl in their home stadium but alas it was not to be,
but heres to being great in 08' after we go 8 and 8 this year, thats a lot a crazy 8's
freebyrd

 

[General Chaos]

I am glad Green is a RFA. I want to see him for one more year before deciding if he deserves a long term deal. We have to resign Dansby and Pace! My prediction for Bryant Johnson is he will go to the Colts for a bargain deal.

 

[General Chaos]

I also thought Antonio Smith was a RFA

I still think he is a RFA since he was an ERFA last year:

Cardinals | A. Smith re-signs - from www.KFFL.com
Wed, 4 Apr 2007 15:39:06 -0700

The Arizona Cardinals have re-signed exclusive-rights free-agent DE Antonio Smith to a one-year deal. Financial terms were not disclosed.

 

[PoolBoy]

resign antonio smith long term before he gets more expensive
we did that right with dockett (imagine how much he would be if we were going for him now)
and we did not do that right with dansby.

lock smith up long term, he is legit.
as for BJ, he will be a raven. not a doubt in my mind.
he's good friends with ray ray apparentely, and he's from baltimore. done deal in my mind.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

My guess is BJ is either Raven or an Eagle next season...

 

[ajcardfan]

My guess is BJ is either Raven or an Eagle next season...

Yeah, and I can't blame him. How can he play in the shadows of Fitz and Boldin his whole career? I think he'd take less money for the chance to be a #1 or even a #2.

 

[BACH]

Yeah, and I can't blame him. How can he play in the shadows of Fitz and Boldin his whole career? I think he'd take less money for the chance to be a #1 or even a #2.

Less Money??

I can only imagine that a team like the RAvens or Eagles, where BJ would step in as a #1 or #2, also would be willing to pay a lot more than the Cardinals, where he'll be the 3rd WR.

 

[JeffGollin]

Keep 'em all - we're on the verge...

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Less Money??

I can only imagine that a team like the RAvens or Eagles, where BJ would step in as a #1 or #2, also would be willing to pay a lot more than the Cardinals, where he'll be the 3rd WR.

He's no lock to be a #1 or #2 on either of those teams. Philly has Curtis and Brown as starters and i can't see BJ beating either of them out. Neither of them are great but are probably a step above BJ. In B'more they have Clayton and Mason. The WR's aren't the problem there.It's the QB's. If BJ wants the chance to be a starter his list should be limited to Miami,SF,KC,Tennessee, and Washington(maybe). Otherwise, as it stands now, he'll be a #3 on the other 27 teams.

 

[imaCafan]

Yes, keep 'em all, add Fanaca to the OL, a mid tier FA CB & DE, try Rolle at FS, then draft (with BPA in mind) a #1 CB round 1, a pass rushing DE/OLB round 2, RB in round 3 and we're set for a play-off run next year!!!!!! And maybe if we could find a burner WR instead of re-signing BJ, that would be good, too....

 

[PoolBoy]

wow if we could get faneca....that would be crazy. but that draft plan is exactly what i want to see. a rb in the 3rd is perfect. just get a guy with blazing speed that knows what he is doing. draft a guy out of the WAC or something.

 

[imaCafan]

Don't recall who posted it, but it is sooooooo obvious what moves need to be made for this team to take the "next step" that if they make those moves, like getting Faneca as opposed to some "no-name" guy, we should easily be in the play-offs next year. Maybe even division champs!!!!! C'mon, RG and MB! Get a little creative with some contracts, loose those purse strings and get those guys in here!!!!!!

 

[football karma]

on the Faneca love:

offense isnt the issue for the Cards. On a scoring basis, they are a top 10 offense in the league.

Its defense -- where they are a bottom 5 team in scoring defense.

Why spend a ton of money on a guard when it could be used to upgrade the defense?

I would rather the Cards spend a pile of money on Terrel Suggs than Alan Faneca. Suggs has at least 5 prime years left and addresses the team's most glaring need. Faneca is on the wrong side of 30.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

on the Faneca love:

offense isnt the issue for the Cards. On a scoring basis, they are a top 10 offense in the league.

Its defense -- where they are a bottom 5 team in scoring defense.

Why spend a ton of money on a guard when it could be used to upgrade the defense?

I would rather the Cards spend a pile of money on Terrel Suggs than Alan Faneca. Suggs has at least 5 prime years left and addresses the team's most glaring need. Faneca is on the wrong side of 30.

That's good point but Faneca would also help improve the run game which would keep the defense off the field. Faneca and a WR,like Drew Carter, would be the only guys i would look at on the offensive side of the ball. THe rest goes defense.

 

[football karma]

That's good point but Faneca would also help improve the run game which would keep the defense off the field. Faneca and a WR,like Drew Carter, would be the only guys i would look at on the offensive side of the ball. THe rest goes defense.

the issue is this: Faneca is going to expect a contract like Leonard Davis got.

We all know that if the Cards sign Faneca, that will be the only f/a of any importance the Cards sign.

If you are only going to sign one guy -- I would rather it be Terrel Suggs.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

People!

KARLOS DANSBY IS A FREE AGENT!

He is our top priority in free agency, and, I venture, will be our BIG TICKET free agent signing.

After we deal with the above... Fitz's contract, Pace, Johnson (?) and which RFA's we decide to tender... then, and only then... will we have the luxury of considering the Faneca's of the football world.

But, it remains... that we are a top 10 offence in essentially its first year; equal or better than the Seahawks. And, our scoring "D" is over 100 points worse than Seattle.

A room temperature football IQ would conclude that "D" is where we invest our dollars and common sense.

 

[ajcardfan]

Less Money??

I can only imagine that a team like the RAvens or Eagles, where BJ would step in as a #1 or #2, also would be willing to pay a lot more than the Cardinals, where he'll be the 3rd WR.

Oh, I don't think our offer will be the best one. I just meant IF ours was the most, he'd still take a deal elsewhere.

 

[ajcardfan]

the issue is this: Faneca is going to expect a contract like Leonard Davis got.

We all know that if the Cards sign Faneca, that will be the only f/a of any importance the Cards sign.

If you are only going to sign one guy -- I would rather it be Terrel Suggs.

I've been thinking about this. Since we'll likely sign one free agent of note, he should be on the unit that's closest to being an elite NFL unit. Since our offense is closer to that, barring a consistent run game, I think Faneca would be the smart signing.

However, if we did sign Suggs, I'd be thrilled.

 

[imaCafan]

I've been thinking about this. Since we'll likely sign one free agent of note, he should be on the unit that's closest to being an elite NFL unit. Since our offense is closer to that, barring a consistent run game, I think Faneca would be the smart signing.

However, if we did sign Suggs, I'd be thrilled.

Agreed. I think Faneca would make a good offense elite, as you have pointed out. I also think a good draft and mid tier signings on defense could make the defense respectable. Yes, our FA's first, THEN these moves. There has to be a creative way to get these things done.......

 

[football karma]

I've been thinking about this. Since we'll likely sign one free agent of note, he should be on the unit that's closest to being an elite NFL unit. Since our offense is closer to that, barring a consistent run game, I think Faneca would be the smart signing.

However, if we did sign Suggs, I'd be thrilled.

not to over-debate this--

but while Pitt has more rushing yards overall -- they also have given up twice the number of sacks the Cards offensive line has, but on 140 fewer attempts (for perspective -- 140 attempts is almost 5 games worth of passes) !!

I am just not buying that Faneca is all that -- at least all that for $50 million over 6 years

 

[ajcardfan]

I am just not buying that Faneca is all that -- at least all that for $50 million over 6 years

Hey, I didn't say I wanted him for THAT contract. If that was the case, then I'd say "pass". IMO, he may want a Davis, or Steinbach, type of deal, but he won't get it due to age. I bet he gets a 3 year deal around 20 mil.