Cards sign OL Hjalte Froholdt

[BACH]

In the grand scheme of things, how good is the second-highest-graded OL on a 1-6 team?

I like to think of it like this:

(1) where would he rank as the starter on a playoff team?
(2) where does he rank among the other starters at his position?

It is hard to evaluate OL play as a layman and from the outside. Extremely hard. That said, I think Froholdt could be the 5th best OL on a playoff team, and he's among the bottom third of starters at his position.

There are places we're much, much worse. Center is alongside TE for me a position that's difficult to scout and get value from with a high pick. There are other problems to focus on.

For example, the absolute zeroes who have been playing to Froholdt's immediate left.

He ranks 18th in the league...

I think he would rank 4th best on a high quality OL. Right now he ranks 2nd. That is not on him. That is on the rest of the starting OL.

Not pretending to be an NFL level expert. But I do have years of following NFL, years of working in media industry covering NFL and about 12 years of actually playing OL myself, so I do have an opinion.

 

[TheCardFan]

I am pretty good with Fro and Gaines at C next year.

LG is the weakest link by far.

 

[BirdGangThing]

somebody is leading the league in penalties again - killed a drive all by his lonesome - but to be fair that was one of the funniest false starts in recent NFL history - so I'll give him that

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[cardncubfan]

somebody is leading the league in penalties again - killed a drive all by his lonesome - but to be fair that was one of the funniest false starts in recent NFL history - so I'll give him that

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I was cracking up when the ref said false start on everyone but the center lol. I also thought more ammo for BGT.

 

[Shane]

I was cracking up when the ref said false start on everyone but the center lol. I also thought more ammo for BGT.

Honestly I’ll take less than one penalty per game average at this point. He’s not perfect but he’s managed to keep the center of the line from being collapsed on him like was happening regularly before. His snaps in SG are consistent. He’s definitely been an upgrade and I hope they re-sign him.

 

[gmabel830]

I was cracking up when the ref said false start on everyone but the center lol. I also thought more ammo for BGT.

"False start, everyone but the center"..... yeah, the center definitely screwed that one up!

 

[Stout]

He was definitely poor again this week. He's not a starter on a playoff team, for sure. Not the dumpster fire I thought, for sure, either. Just a solid depth guy.

 

[TheCardFan]

somebody is leading the league in penalties again

It's the Captain and in one less game played

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[Arz101]

Guys, 35 of the 53 man roster can leave. They are 2-8. There are no sacred cows besides a dozen

 

[cardncubfan]

Honestly I’ll take less than one penalty per game average at this point. He’s not perfect but he’s managed to keep the center of the line from being collapsed on him like was happening regularly before. His snaps in SG are consistent. He’s definitely been an upgrade and I hope they re-sign him.

Don't get me wrong. I really like Froholdt & have been one of his supporters. I hope they re-sign him as well.

 

[cardncubfan]

"False start, everyone but the center"..... yeah, the center definitely screwed that one up!

I have to admit my first thought was he was the only that got it right lol. Of course I had been drinking & smoking a lot.

 

[WisconsinCard]

"False start, everyone but the center"..... yeah, the center definitely screwed that one up!

Happened again yesterday can't remember which game tho.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Honestly I’ll take less than one penalty per game average at this point. He’s not perfect but he’s managed to keep the center of the line from being collapsed on him like was happening regularly before. His snaps in SG are consistent. He’s definitely been an upgrade and I hope they re-sign him.

He's been durable too. Super important for your C.

 

[Chopper0080]

Definition of a guy who can be upgraded, but also is not a problem. I wouldn't pass on a young C option in the draft because of Fro, but it isn't a top priority either.

 

[Harry]

Harry, you took sides since we first signed him.

Absolutely did and he has admittedly been better than expected. That said he’s been walked back into the QB several times, he’s been fooled by some stunts and made a few unnecessary penalties. He’s far from mastering line calls. Overall he’s exceeded by my expectations but he is not, as of yet, a top center. He has displayed good agility so there is more potential than I anticipated. Maybe an off-season weight room push could move him forward.

 

[BirdGangThing]

Absolutely did and he has admittedly been better than expected. That said he’s been walked back into the QB several times, he’s been fooled by some stunts and made a few unnecessary penalties. He’s far from mastering line calls. Overall he’s exceeded by my expectations but he is not, as of yet, a top center. He has displayed good agility so there is more potential than I anticipated. Maybe an off-season weight room push could move him forward.

Don't forget forgetting what the snap count was - lol - twice!!! Which they don't even penalize him for

 

[Goodyear Card]

He has been ok, but we need upgrades all along the OL. We need quality starters not average and below average starters. We have 3 OL in the top 15 OL for penalties. That is not acceptable.

 

[Stout]

Definition of a guy who can be upgraded, but also is not a problem. I wouldn't pass on a young C option in the draft because of Fro, but it isn't a top priority either.

Definitely isn't the top priority on the line--LG or even LT will be the priority there. Oof, our OL is in trouble.

 

[QuebecCard]

Honestly I’ll take less than one penalty per game average at this point. He’s not perfect but he’s managed to keep the center of the line from being collapsed on him like was happening regularly before. His snaps in SG are consistent. He’s definitely been an upgrade and I hope they re-sign him.

He already has a contract for 2024.

 

[QuebecCard]

Absolutely did and he has admittedly been better than expected. That said he’s been walked back into the QB several times, he’s been fooled by some stunts and made a few unnecessary penalties. He’s far from mastering line calls. Overall he’s exceeded by my expectations but he is not, as of yet, a top center. He has displayed good agility so there is more potential than I anticipated. Maybe an off-season weight room push could move him forward.

His shortcoming is experience, certainly not the weight room.

 

[BirdGangThing]

His shortcoming is experience, certainly not the weight room.

Except he's not improving - all 3 of his worst games are in the past month - yet we continue to put the freckles on a pedistool

 

[QuebecCard]

Except he's not improving - all 3 of his worst games are in the past month - yet we continue to put the freckles on a pedistool

Gaining experience includes ups and downs.

 

[SECTION 11]

I have no problem rolling with the Fro.

 

[cardsfanmd]

Definitely isn't the top priority on the line--LG or even LT will be the priority there. Oof, our OL is in trouble.

LT? Am I weird for thinking it’s the only position on our current active offensive roster that we have 2 legit starters at and then there’s Beachum too.

 

[Stout]

LT? Am I weird for thinking it’s the only position on our current active offensive roster that we have 2 legit starters at and then there’s Beachum too.

Beachum is going to age out and DJ is playing quite poorly. Is it just this season, or is he in decline?