CBS Sportline Rankings for our players

[Chris_Sanders]

1. Chris Wells #1 rated RB. 14th best player overall. 1st round projected
2. Cody Brown #9 rated OLB 78th best player overall. 3rd round
3. Rashad Johnson #2 rated FS 66th best player overall. 2-3 round
4. Gregory Toler. Not ranked.
5. Herman Johnson #4 rated OG 87th best player overall 3rd round
6. Will Davis #25 rated DE 276th best player overall. 7th round
7. LaRod Stephens-Howling. Not ranked.
7. Trevor Canfield. #6 rated OG 130th best player overall. 4th round


The Toler pick is a real head scratcher. At best he is the Dime Corner and none of the top 3 are in any danger of being off the team in the next 2 years. McKillop went 15 picks later and would have filled one of the only positions were are thin at.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

1. Chris Wells #1 rated RB. 14th best player overall. 1st round projected
2. Cody Brown #9 rated OLB 78th best player overall. 3rd round
3. Rashad Johnson #2 rated FS 66th best player overall. 2-3 round
4. Gregory Toler. Not ranked.
5. Herman Johnson #4 rated OG 87th best player overall 3rd round
6. Will Davis #25 rated DE 276th best player overall. 7th round
7. LaRod Stephens-Howling. Not ranked.
7. Trevor Canfield. #6 rated OG 130th best player overall. 4th round


The Toler pick is a real head scratcher. At best he is the Dime Corner and none of the top 3 are in any danger of being off the team in the next 2 years. McKillop went 15 picks later and would have filled one of the only positions were are thin at.

Given how little is known about Toler, other than growing interest in the last few months, I fail to understand how you can state how good he will be; where he'll fit, and who better met our needs.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

1. Chris Wells #1 rated RB. 14th best player overall. 1st round projected
2. Cody Brown #9 rated OLB 78th best player overall. 3rd round
3. Rashad Johnson #2 rated FS 66th best player overall. 2-3 round
4. Gregory Toler. Not ranked.
5. Herman Johnson #4 rated OG 87th best player overall 3rd round
6. Will Davis #25 rated DE 276th best player overall. 7th round
7. LaRod Stephens-Howling. Not ranked.
7. Trevor Canfield. #6 rated OG 130th best player overall. 4th round


The Toler pick is a real head scratcher. At best he is the Dime Corner and none of the top 3 are in any danger of being off the team in the next 2 years. McKillop went 15 picks later and would have filled one of the only positions were are thin at.

I can't see how anyone could complain about 1,2 and 3. Great players who fill needs

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Given how little is known about Toler, other than growing interest in the last few months, I fail to understand how you can state how good he will be; where he'll fit, and who better met our needs.

He isn't beating out McFadden, DRC, or Hood. That makes him Dime Corner at best.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I can't see how anyone could complain about 1,2 and 3. Great players who fill needs

Yeah I love our 1-3 and the Johnson pick.

 

[overseascardfan]

The Toler pick could have been OT Troy Kropog, a guy I hope we landed to replace Gandy next year or at the very least provide us with a swing tackle to back up Brown and Keith.

Anyone have any info on Toler, all that it says on NFL.com is that he could have went to a D-1 school but his grades were terrible.

 

[Doug]

I think at the combine all or 99% of the cornerbacks in this years draft had pretty slow times and none like DRC had last year and even made most of them project to safeties in the NFL due to that.Unless you want a guy getting toasted all day.


My point is that at the Richmond Pro day Toler had a sub 4.4 time in the rain even and surprised our scouts with his skill set and they thought they could take what he had and make a corneback out of him over the slower players we saw at the combine.

I read his past story and its very touching.This kid has come a long way and is already 24.I think with the training he will get from our new free agent CB he will grow up very quickly and I hope he works out.He had tryouts with almost 20 teams in the NFL and would have been taken soon after we took him if we did'nt.Especially due to his speed.

 

[LittleDavis]

Hood has three years left but is getting up there for an average CB. Mcfadden only signed for two. Toler and DRC may be solid for a long time. I don't know anything about Toler but I trust our FO. I wonder if Toler's name came up because of Hightower. It was at Richmond that Toler had a workout, correct?

 

[Zeno]

He isn't beating out McFadden, DRC, or Hood. That makes him Dime Corner at best.

Thats fine it will take an adjustment for a guy to go from a school that NEVER has had a player drafted to the NFL. I say work him in slowly, be patient, see if his game can catch up to his athleticism. At that point we weren't going to find anyone to beat out our top 3 anyway.

 

[Twist18]

I am surprised the Raiders didnt take him ahead of us.

 

[Ryanwb]

I trust this regime, they have put together some good talent. I love taking chances rather than going with what everyone thinks we should do.

 

[DoTheDew]

I see Toler as an extremely poor mans DRC. Amazing athlete that may be extremely raw. His age is a worry but it was a risk reward pick which is perfect 4th round or later. IF he has true football skills, his athleticism alone will cause him to develop into at least a solid nickle back. If not we used a 4th round pick on a player that never contributes like probably half of the other teams in the league do every year. Worth the risk IMO.

 

[az jam]

ST. PAUL’S TOLER IS AN NFL SLEEPER
Posted by Aaron Wilson on March 27, 2009, 1:36 p.m. EDT
St. Paul’s (Va.) cornerback Greg Toler is making his bid to emerge as this year’s Domonique Rodgers-Cromartie, and has been drawing increased interest from NFL teams.

Toler had private workouts this week with the Cleveland Browns and the Miami Dolphins this week.

Toler told us in a telephone interview that he has upcoming visits with the Washington Redskins, Houston Texans, San Francisco 49ers, Pittsburgh Steelers, Minnesota Vikings, New York Jets, Arizona Cardinals, Cleveland Browns, Green Bay Packers, Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Jacksonville Jaguars.

“I’m hoping to get that chance to prove myself,” Toler said. “Domonique Rodgers-Cromartie took the small-school route, and I’m looking to do the same thing. If I had gone to a bigger school, I might have gotten complacent.

“From where I’m coming from, I treasure this a lot more. I don’t complain about anything, and I just appreciate the opportunity. This is my dream.”

According to NFL.com, Toler has been projected as a mid-round to late-round draft pick. He’s hoping to go as high as the second or third round.

Listed at 5-foot-11, 191 pounds, Toler has run a hand-timed 4.35 in the 40-yard dash. He intercepted 14 career passes at St. Paul’s.

Toler had academic problems coming out of high school in the Washington D.C. area. Now, he’s six credits shy of earning a degree.

“I didn’t take my classes very seriously at that time,” Toler said. “I was working at a JC Penney. I couldn’t see myself doing that for my life, so I was blessed to go to St. Paul’s. I don’t have any regrets. It’s a small, isolated school where you can concentrate on academics and football.

“The strength of my game is that I’m a cover cornerback. I’ll come up and tackle, too. I want to be one of the best cornerbacks in the NFL one day. I grew up watching Champ Bailey and Deion Sanders, and those are my favorite cornerbacks.”

 

[Unsterblich856]

I look at the Toler pick in three ways:

-Three of our four starting corners could potentially be gone by 2011. We're going to need someone to develop so our secondary doesn't go back to the dark ages. I see Toler spend his rookie year developing, next season he assumes dime duty from the departed Brown, and assume Nickle duty when McFadden/Hood hits the free market.
-We have great luck with small school corners. People call Toler the DRC of the draft. He pans out to be the shutdown corner he has the potential to be. DRC/Toler is the best shutdown tandem this team has seen.
-Toler never sees the field because we have great depth.

I love the pick because of the potential. We don't lose anything because it is the 4th round.

 

[lauraw]

I've got my eye on this kid.. he has all the stars aligned to make it in this league like Steve Breaston did...

 

[Krangodnzr]

See what I see is a team that's starting to develop it's own depth. We've never been the type of team, that when we lost a starter or a key backup, we'd be able to replace the player adequately with depth. The Cardinals are becoming that type of team, and it's the mid to late rounds that you get players to fill that depth.

Injuries, age, and free agency happens. The Cardinals are starting to cover their bases now, and Greg Toler is just that kind of pick.

 

[Garthshort]

Chris Sanders has a point. He will be at best a dime CB. And will be competing with Ralph Brown, the favorite, Michael Adams, a VG ST player, to even make the team. However, he does seem to have a ton of upside, and for that reason I'm excited by the pick. I've been a Steve Keim and his staff (I know there are new members, but Steve remains) fan for quite a while, and if he says, "take him", I'll buy it.

 

[MadCardDisease]

See what I see is a team that's starting to develop it's own depth. We've never been the type of team, that when we lost a starter or a key backup, we'd be able to replace the player adequately with depth. The Cardinals are becoming that type of team, and it's the mid to late rounds that you get players to fill that depth.

Injuries, age, and free agency happens. The Cardinals are starting to cover their bases now, and Greg Toler is just that kind of pick.

I agree 100%.

The Cardinals are at a point now where they are drafting for depth and future growth. For too many years we were drafting for need and pushing these rookies to start before they were ready.

 

[football karma]

Toler is the kind of guy who sits on the bottom of a NFL roster for a couple years and then shows up ---everyone who hasnt been following the team then wonders "where did this guy come from?

 

[imaCafan]

I looked at rankings here and there last night since I know little more than AZ. Cardinals football players. Know zip about college players on my own. What I found surfing various ratings sites (pre draft ratings) was that every player we chose was rated higher than where we picked them. I had to look at a dozen or more sites to do that, with some players taken 2-3 rounds later than their grade. I'm excited about Toler and Garvin for some reason, and can't wait to see Wells tear it up for 1000+ his rookie season!!!!

 

[Captain Matt]

Ahhhh darn it all. We should have taken him in the 5th round.... that way we keep the "steal of the draft" tradition going.... LOL.

Seriously I hope he pans out. Cutting Green and picking up McFadden and Toler! Wow! Now that is an UPGRADE!!!! Even if Toler doesn't sniff the field, I don't see him faking an injury - he has too much to lose and has already learned that all-important life's lesson that you have to take advantage of every opportunity.