Charmin Marvin Harrison Jr Thread

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I'm thinking of a few times when he didn't come back to the ball aggressively, and allowed a DB to beat him to it.
There have been those moments but some of that should be positional coaching. I think he had an idea of the physical game in the NFL and it has turned out to be much more. Between that, how he is used, and Kyler's lack of timing, Marv has had a lot to adjust to. I see no reason why he can't and in some ways, you can see his growth in the season.
 

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I really hope he gets it, or the light comes on soon, but chances are he'll never be much more than a serviceable WR. If history has any say about it.

There are zero father and son combos - as players - in the NFL HOF.

I personally wish we had traded down and still got a top WR but got some other players as well. Meh.

Time will tell.
 

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I really hope he gets it, or the light comes on soon, but chances are he'll never be much more than a serviceable WR. If history has any say about it.

There are zero father and son combos - as players - in the NFL HOF.

I personally wish we had traded down and still got a top WR but got some other players as well. Meh.

Time will tell.
You wanted Odunze and you were loud about it… until he came out and has stunk worse than Harrison. Now you wish we just got “top WR”. Why change course? I mean, that’s a rhetorical question because of course the reason is you’d have to admit the guy you loudly crowed about has sucked and God forbid anyone ever admit they’re wrong about something.
 

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You wanted Odunze and you were loud about it… until he came out and has stunk worse than Harrison. Now you wish we just got “top WR”. Why change course? I mean, that’s a rhetorical question because of course the reason is you’d have to admit the guy you loudly crowed about has sucked and God forbid anyone ever admit they’re wrong about something.
That's who I wanted, but every decision is not about me. I have no idea who the Cardinals would have drafted had we traded down. Was Odunze their second best WR? Third? Who knows.

Surprise surprise - Bears fans are complaining about Odunze's season and blaming the Bears for not knowing how to use him better. Even his dad took a shot at the team recently.

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Watching Puka Nacua tonight, and he is what I expected from Marvin Harrison Jr. Hard to watch. “Generational talents” shouldn’t need a year to develop. Maybe Harrison’s light goes on next year, but I am not counting on it.
 

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I really hope he gets it, or the light comes on soon, but chances are he'll never be much more than a serviceable WR. If history has any say about it.

There are zero father and son combos - as players - in the NFL HOF.

I personally wish we had traded down and still got a top WR but got some other players as well. Meh.

Time will tell.
It’s a good thing there’s a wide spectrum between a good draft pick and hall of famer.

I’m fine if Charmin makes five pro bowls, two first- or second-team all pros, and gets to a third contract with the Cards.
 

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It’s a good thing there’s a wide spectrum between a good draft pick and hall of famer.

I’m fine if Charmin makes five pro bowls, two first- or second-team all pros, and gets to a third contract with the Cards.

With the way he is playing, I don’t anticipate him making a single Pro Bowl. He has a long list of better receivers ahead of him in the NFC to catch up to. Did you see Puka Nacua play tonight? Or Justin Jefferson last week? MHJ is not even the best player in this WR class. Look at Nabers, Thomas and Mcconkey.
 

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With the way he is playing, I don’t anticipate him making a single Pro Bowl. He has a long list of better receivers ahead of him in the NFC to catch up to. Did you see Puka Nacua play tonight? Or Justin Jefferson last week? MHJ is not even the best player in this WR class. Look at Nabers, Thomas and Mcconkey.

It’s wild that McConkey looks better than Harrison. That kid gets open and fights for every yard.

Harrison gives me DeAndre Ayton vibes. Game always came too easily for him, put up gawdy stats, thinks his ish doesn’t stink (slipping everything pre-draft, Jersey stuff) and flashes his natural gifts every now and again to titillate, but grew up so privileged by natural talent, that he never learned what it truly meant to work like a dog to be the best and is soft at heart because of it.

There’s just so little dawg in his game.
 

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You wanted Odunze and you were loud about it… until he came out and has stunk worse than Harrison. Now you wish we just got “top WR”. Why change course? I mean, that’s a rhetorical question because of course the reason is you’d have to admit the guy you loudly crowed about has sucked and God forbid anyone ever admit they’re wrong about something.

Both the same issue IMO. I still like Odunze, but both he and Marv have had poor QB play. Both also asked to do most of their work downfield with QB's that suck downfield.

That's not to say both don't have things to work on as all rookies do, but both are far better than their stats say.
 

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Watching Puka Nacua tonight, and he is what I expected from Marvin Harrison Jr. Hard to watch. “Generational talents” shouldn’t need a year to develop. Maybe Harrison’s light goes on next year, but I am not counting on it.

Puka Nacua is playing with one of the best QB's in the league. That's really most of the difference.

Marv has made some elite catches and plays. Both TD's vs the Rams and the diving TD vs Miami spring to mind.

Marv is going to be great, the only question for me is will we have a QB that can make the most of him.
 
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