Colangelo given total control of USA hoops

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Colangelo given control, wants two-year commitment
Associated Press

PHOENIX -- Jerry Colangelo has been given total control of the U.S. men's Olympic basketball program and has promised radical changes in an effort to restore the United States to international prominence in the sport.

The system of a handful of NBA stars gathering for a few weeks before the competition will be abandoned, said Colangelo, the chairman and CEO of the Phoenix Suns who has been involved in basketball for 50 years, 39 of them in the professional ranks.

"It's going to be drastically different," Colangelo said Wednesday at a news conference, "and I say that because you know stars do not necessarily make a great team."

The 10-member committee that selected the teams has been disbanded, and Colangelo alone will name the players and coaches. He said he wants them to commit to the team for two years leading up to the 2006 world championships and 2008 Beijing Olympics.

"The international game is a lot different game than people truly recognize," Colangelo said. "It's more than just the trapezoid lane compared to our line. It's a different game. As you prepare a team, you need players who can shoot the ball, pass the ball, understand the game, as much as you need players who are just athletic."

The president of USA Basketball, Val Ackerman, said that the organization felt significant changes in the structure of its senior men's team were necessary after it finished sixth at the 2002 world championships in Indianapolis, then won only the bronze medal at the Athens Olympics. Before Athens, the United States had won every Olympic basketball gold medal since the NBA "Dream Team" of Barcelona in 1992.

"The current reality, the new normal if you will, is that the dominance that the United States has enjoyed, and which we continue to aspire to, is simply much harder to achieve," she said, "and it can no longer be taken for granted."

The committee that selected the 2004 team was one of the problems, she said.

"Simply put, it was too many cooks in the kitchen," said Jim Tooley, USA Basketball executive director.

The 65-year-old Colangelo immediately became the obvious candidate to take over, Ackerman said.

He came to Arizona 37 years ago as general manager of the expansion Phoenix Suns. Later he put together a group to buy the franchise, and just last year sold it to businessman Robert Sarver. A member of the basketball Hall of Fame, Colangelo is chairman of the NBA board of governors. He was appointed by NBA Commissioner David Stern to head a committee in 2000-01 that examined the state of the game and made rule changes.

Colangelo also brought major league baseball to Arizona before leaving the Diamondbacks a year ago in a dispute with the new owners.

College players will be considered along with NBA players for the new team.

"We certainly want to change the perception that this thing is a locked-in deal for a handful of star players to participate in," he said. "No, that's not the case. I really like the idea of tryouts, I like the idea of opening the process up. We want people to feel that it's all-inclusive. This is not a fraternity, far from it."

As for selecting a coach, Colangelo said, "One of the things that I'm very, very sure of is those who have a true understanding of the international game I think have an edge. It's very, very important to understand it's a different game."

One coach who fits that description is the Suns' Mike D'Antoni, a star point guard and later a highly successful coach in Italy whose team had the NBA's best record this season.

Colangelo said he will appoint a small advisory group, and hopes to have it in place by early next month. But he alone will have the final say on the team's makeup. Character, he said, will be a major part of the selection.

"The perception of our athletes around the world is one that I'm very sensitive to," he said. "The kind of people I want wearing a USA uniform are those we can take some pride in. I want good people and high character. I think that's very, very important."

He also wants former Olympic players and coaches to be part of the process of building the new U.S. team.

"I have relationships with players, coaches and people within the business," Colangelo said. "I'm looking for people who share the same kind of passion I do. It's as simple as that, and there are plenty of them out there. Some of them may not have the star recognition that we're accustomed to in the past, but that's all right."

Colangelo wants the same coach and virtually the same team for the 2006 worlds and the 2008 Olympics. He plans to meet one-on-one with prospective players to explain his ideas and the commitment he believes is necessary.

USA Basketball has no qualms about giving one person so much authority of its highest-profile team, Ackerman said.

"We're actually kind of relieved to be putting it in his good hands," she said.
 
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So, how long until D'Antoni is the coach of the Olympics? Of the current Suns, I absolutely think Amare, Marion and Joe Johnson should be on the team. I can imagine point guards like Hinrich, possibly Dwyane Wade, Luke Ridnour, Chris Paul, Devin Harris, etc.

Anyway, I really like the decision to have Colangelo run the whole thing. D'Antoni would be the perfect coach and could probably think of some great guys to fit his system(including U.S. players who are playing overseas like Charlie Bell).
 

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So it's safe to say we will not see Alan Iverson on the team.

This goes to show you just how powerful in the NBA circles Jerry is. Is there any doubt he would be named NBA commissioner if Stern suddenly was not able to perform his duties.
 

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Wow, that's a major responsibility. He must have a lot of confidence in order to be willing to set himself up for (potentially) spectacular failure.

I'm not so sure Stoudemire is a good candidate for the team. International defenses have more leeway to sag and clog the middle, and Stoudemire needs room to operate. I think most of us would agree that, overall, Duncan is still a more potent offensive weapon than Stoudemire at this point, and yet Duncan was basically neutralized in the Olympics as well.

Among current NBA big men who could play for the USA in the next Olympics, the pickings are pretty slim. Shaquille O'Neal will be too old. Duncan probably isn't interested. Garnett would be good, but somehow I don't see him willing to make the long commitment. Jermaine O'Neal figures to be a poor man's version of Stoudemire within a year or two (if he isn't already). Brad Miller has an intriguing combination of skills, but I assume his career will have been ended by injuries by 2008. Okafor maybe.

Among guards/wings it's easier, at least to get started. James and Wade are automatic. I would want either McGrady or Bryant, but not both; probably Bryant is a better choice because of his slightly better health and stronger desire to rehabilitate his image. Joe Johnson could be a very valuable member, assuming the team has other more dangerous weapons. Bringing Marion back makes sense. Rashard Lewis.

I'm not sure the team would need a traditional table-setting point guard, but if they do, I'd prefer someone with more experience than Hinrich for instance. Bibby or Andre Miller would probably be okay.

Good thing it's not my problem! It will be fascinating to see what Colangelo comes up with.
 
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elindholm said:
Wow, that's a major responsibility. He must have a lot of confidence in order to be willing to set himself up for (potentially) spectacular failure.

I'm not so sure Stoudemire is a good candidate for the team. International defenses have more leeway to sag and clog the middle, and Stoudemire needs room to operate. I think most of us would agree that, overall, Duncan is still a more potent offensive weapon than Stoudemire at this point, and yet Duncan was basically neutralized in the Olympics as well.

Among current NBA big men who could play for the USA in the next Olympics, the pickings are pretty slim. Shaquille O'Neal will be too old. Duncan probably isn't interested. Garnett would be good, but somehow I don't see him willing to make the long commitment. Jermaine O'Neal figures to be a poor man's version of Stoudemire within a year or two (if he isn't already). Brad Miller has an intriguing combination of skills, but I assume his career will have been ended by injuries by 2008. Okafor maybe.

Among guards/wings it's easier, at least to get started. James and Wade are automatic. I would want either McGrady or Bryant, but not both; probably Bryant is a better choice because of his slightly better health and stronger desire to rehabilitate his image. Joe Johnson could be a very valuable member, assuming the team has other more dangerous weapons. Bringing Marion back makes sense. Rashard Lewis.

I'm not sure the team would need a traditional table-setting point guard, but if they do, I'd prefer someone with more experience than Hinrich for instance. Bibby or Andre Miller would probably be okay.

Good thing it's not my problem! It will be fascinating to see what Colangelo comes up with.

Remember, they're not playing right away. Stoudemire, Hinrich, etc., will be much better prepared by the next Olympics.
 

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Wow, that's a major responsibility. He must have a lot of confidence in order to be willing to set himself up for (potentially) spectacular failure.

I'm not so sure Stoudemire is a good candidate for the team. International defenses have more leeway to sag and clog the middle, and Stoudemire needs room to operate. I think most of us would agree that, overall, Duncan is still a more potent offensive weapon than Stoudemire at this point, and yet Duncan was basically neutralized in the Olympics as well.

Among current NBA big men who could play for the USA in the next Olympics, the pickings are pretty slim. Shaquille O'Neal will be too old. Duncan probably isn't interested. Garnett would be good, but somehow I don't see him willing to make the long commitment. Jermaine O'Neal figures to be a poor man's version of Stoudemire within a year or two (if he isn't already). Brad Miller has an intriguing combination of skills, but I assume his career will have been ended by injuries by 2008. Okafor maybe.

Among guards/wings it's easier, at least to get started. James and Wade are automatic. I would want either McGrady or Bryant, but not both; probably Bryant is a better choice because of his slightly better health and stronger desire to rehabilitate his image. Joe Johnson could be a very valuable member, assuming the team has other more dangerous weapons. Bringing Marion back makes sense. Rashard Lewis.

I'm not sure the team would need a traditional table-setting point guard, but if they do, I'd prefer someone with more experience than Hinrich for instance. Bibby or Andre Miller would probably be okay.

Good thing it's not my problem! It will be fascinating to see what Colangelo comes up with.


I think you will be disapointed if you think this is going to be just another version of the Dream Team. Jerry is going to think out of the box on this one and you may not see as many All Stars as before.

If I had $5 bucks to bet the team he picks will raise more than a few eyebrows.
 
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All right...here's mine. The list is subject to change when people tell me something which makes me go "Oh yeah."

Starting Lineup
C Brad Miller
PF Amare Stoudemire
SF LeBron James
SG Dwyane Wade
PG Kirk Hinrich

Bench
Shawn Marion
Tyson Chandler
Chris Paul
Joe Johnson
Mike Miller
Charlie Bell
Matt Bonner


Justification
Keep in mind this team will need to be good for the next few years. A lot of them will be much better players by then as well.

LeBron, Amare and Wade are plenty enough star power. Hinrich is a heady player with a good jump shot who doesn't need to dominate the ball. Miller has shown an ability within the right offense to pass and shoot very well. The starting five combines for good shooting, passing and size.

The bench has a lot of multi-position guys, which I think will help. Tyson Chandler gives frontcourt depth off the bench for either of the big spots. Marion adds hustle, rebounding, defense and clean up work. Chris Paul works as your solid back up point who can dribble, defend and shoot, especially by the time they'd actually be playing. Joe Johnson gives you a lot of versatility off the bench. Mike Miller is a passing, ball handling dead-eye-shooter. Charlie Bell and Matt Bonner are mainly practice players who would be thrilled to be there and fit the bill of gameplay style should they need to play some minutes. Bell can give real hands on input to the other guys about what it's like in the european leagues and I really do think Bonner fits the international mold we'd need.

I seriously debated between Marion and Lewis, couldn't make up my mind, knew they wouldn't need both, and made the selfish choice.
 

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I think you will be disapointed if you think this is going to be just another version of the Dream Team. Jerry is going to think out of the box on this one and you may not see as many All Stars as before.

Thanks for the insight. But he won't be picking scrubs, either. If someone is getting only 15 minutes a game in the NBA, that means he's not very good. There are some very good players who have no problem taking on a reduced role (e.g. Marion). You'll see several of them, but I doubt you'll see anyone who doesn't have world-class skills.
 

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wouldn't be surprised to see ray allen. love the addition of bibby. he would have made a huge difference last year too. and i think we'll see a sorcerer on the team as well. because they're a specialist and we need videogames.
 

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I don't think we will see many stars on these teams. I can see a great deal of role players and maybe one or two stars that want to participate in the program.
 

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fordronken said:
Remember, they're not playing right away. Stoudemire, Hinrich, etc., will be much better prepared by the next Olympics.


They will be playing in the 2006 world championships though, and Colangelo said he wants virtually the same team for both.

However I agree, those players should have the experience by then.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Steve Francis on there. While I personally don't like him, he is the player that sticks out in my head that seriously campaigned to go. He practically begged to be added, and was looked over. Colangelo has made it clear that people will only be on the team if they WANT to be.
 

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They will be playing in the 2006 world championships though, and Colangelo said he wants virtually the same team for both.

However I agree, those players should have the experience by then.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Steve Francis on there. While I personally don't like him, he is the player that sticks out in my head that seriously campaigned to go. He practically begged to be added, and was looked over. Colangelo has made it clear that people will only be on the team if they WANT to be.

That's true about Steve Francis, but he also has a high potential for being a disaster both on the court and off. He's the type of guy you could easily imagine pissing and moaning the entire time if he didn't get enough pt.

IMO the very best person they could get through for this team would be Kevin Garnett. Unfortunately I doubt he would be willing to commit for one summer much less two years.

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Just make sure Marbury doesn't come within a mile of this new team! He is a gifted player but absoulutely awful for international play. We need a pass-first PG. I think Marbury is one of the key reasons we were so bad in the last Olympics.
 

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Just make sure Marbury doesn't come within a mile of this new team! He is a gifted player but absoulutely awful for international play. We need a pass-first PG. I think Marbury is one of the key reasons we were so bad in the last Olympics.

It would be great to get a pass first point guard, but I think more importantly that player has to be a consistent outside shooter. Steve Nash's Canadian, so he isn't a possibility. However it's that ability to knock down shots consistently that would make him an ideal international point guard.

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whomever gets picked at least it wont be all 6'8" athletic forwards playing out of position. I don't think we will see Richard Jefferson and Lamar Odom at 2 guard on this team.
 

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What about the team that wins the championship plays against the world?

:)
 

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boisesuns said:
What about the team that wins the championship plays against the world?

:)


Didn't they used to do this as an exhibition game? I seem to remember seeing like the early 90s Jordan led Bulls team playing an international game against someone...

I think what has been said before, at least for the olympics, is that you couldn't have the NBA champs play because so many teams rely on international players now. Imagine if the Spurs won the title, and then Manu and Parker couldn't play. Same if the Mavs won, and Dirk couldn't play.
 

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Even if the entire Pistons roster could have played in the olympics last summer, do you really think their overly physical, beat them down game with offensive problems would have placed better than 3rd?
 

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The best word in that whole article is 'tryouts'.

I think it is a mistake to formulate a 'dream team' on paper and start inviting people hoping they will accept.

I don't care who they are they should have to apply and fit in with the team concept to be considered. Anybody who plays on the USA basketball team should be thinking team and country first.

Good luck JC. Sounds to me like you are on the right track.
 

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boisesuns said:
What about the team that wins the championship plays against the world?

:)

I like this idea. I've always wondered why we don't do that. I mean if they want to claim that WE ARE THE WORLD CHAMP, then win the REAL world series.

I agree with this idea. This will eliminate the chance that we have no chemistry but what if Mavs won? LOL Dirk will still play for his German team I think and Nash would probably play for Team Canada.


One thing though... if we choose mid-teir players, this may hurt the jersey sales. LOL But if you want me to pick losing some jersey sales or losing faces around the world, I'll pick losing jersey sales!
 

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SirChaz said:
Anybody who plays on the USA basketball team should be thinking team and country first.

Sounds like we need to make them all watch "Miracle" before they head to the games in the summer! :thumbup:
 

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How about since the Suns can't win Title, because they have no experience :rolleyes: - the USA teams send all older, experienced star players in League and well since the WC is the best... Team USA choose from all the top Playoff teams in WC.

BUT noooo, I wouldn't want to wear down players in WC for future Championships, because the Suns are going to win anyways? Right?
 

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I like JC's idea of tryouts... put the coaching staff together first though so you're getting players that have some chance of fitting together. The other thing is to get some guys for role players who are used to it - Bruce Bowen, Udonis Haslem, Reggie Evans, Trenton Hassell, Shane Batteir etc. There are so many great players in this league that quality of the individuals is not a problem - the trick is to get a bunch guys that will come together as a team. Personally, I'd go with a lot of young players because the established stars need to rest in the off season. Off the top of my head - Kirk Hinrich, Ben Gordon, Dwayne Wade, Dwight Howard, Samuel Dalambert, Chris Bosh, Sebastian Telfair, Amare. I'd like to have Earl Boykins, too, because he can change the pace of a game like no one else.
 
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