Colvin Story Gets Worse

[ajcardfan]

According to Jurecki, the Pats gave Colvin 7mil upfront. The Cards offered close to 10 mil upfront . Man, three million dollars wasn't enough to make the guy pick us over NE? Bummer.

 

[MadCardDisease]

That proves that Graves did everything he could to land Colvin. The guy just didn't want to play here.

 

[Shane]

Originally posted by ajcardfan
According to Jurecki, the Pats gave Colvin 7mil upfront. The Cards offered close to 10 mil upfront . Man, three million dollars wasn't enough to make the guy pick us over NE? Bummer.

Thats why I say there was absoluely no reason for the guy to even come here. he was just plain and simply jerking our chain especially if he knew that he had zero desire to play on the west coast! SCREW HIM!

 

[pinnacle]

did I hear jurecki right..he indicated that the cards might be pulling the offer to stewart..kind of glossed over it and mentioned it in passing..I hope I heard this right....

 

[Shane]

Originally posted by pinnacle
did I hear jurecki right..he indicated that the cards might be pulling the offer to stewart..kind of glossed over it and mentioned it in passing..I hope I heard this right....

Man I sure hope you heard that right!

 

[Ed B]

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Originally posted by Shane H
Thats why I say there was absoluely no reason for the guy to even come here. he was just plain and simply jerking our chain especially if he knew that he had zero desire to play on the west coast! SCREW HIM!

I actually respect him, the money wasn't important to him. He came here and checked us out and then said "no thanks". How did he jerk anyone's chain? Every free agent should visit every interested team before making a decision.

 

[Shane]

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Originally posted by Ed B
I actually respect him, the money wasn't important to him. He came here and checked us out and then said "no thanks". How did he jerk anyone's chain? Every free agent should visit every interested team before making a decision.

I disagree the guy made it clear that the reason he made his decision was that he did want to play on the west coast.

You dont think he knew this before he started making his rounds? Im sure he did. So IMO he had zero interest to begin with and was just using us as a bargaining chip which is the status quo nowadays!

Why should I respect him for that??

 

[ajcardfan]

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Originally posted by Ed B
I actually respect him, the money wasn't important to him. He came here and checked us out and then said "no thanks". How did he jerk anyone's chain? Every free agent should visit every interested team before making a decision.

I'm with you Ed. It's hard to knock him for what he did. If I had known about the offers 24hrs ago, I'd have bet a wad of cash that he's sign here for that much more money. Just goes to show what an uphill fight it is for us in free agency.

 

[bratwurst]

Its the kind of thing that just kills me. I can't be upset with either party here - Colvin made a decision to go where he wanted to go, turning down money to do so, thats admirable.

However we can't even get guys to come here when we throw that much more money at them?

I just don't know how we can win. We are going to have to try to bring in a bunch of mid tier guys and rebuild by mass influx of players. I think its our best option now.

 

[Cards Czar]

I wonder what his better half thinks about of giving up 3 million dollars?

 

[maddogkf]

Originally posted by Zona99
I wonder what his better half thinks about of giving up 3 million dollars?

My question is "What the hell is she doing out of the kitchen"?

 

[Shane]

Originally posted by Zona99
I wonder what his better half thinks about of giving up 3 million dollars?

Sorry the guy did nothing admirable. All he did was jerk our chains knowing he never wanted to play outwest!

Typical of most FAs we bring in nowadays. He sucked us in and was able to use to get the PAts to give him 7 million guaranteed and yet he could still stay where he wanted to all along. BACK EAST!

 

[Ed B]

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Originally posted by Shane H
I disagree the guy made it clear that the reason he made his decision was that he did want to play on the west coast.

You dont think he knew this before he started making his rounds? Im sure he did. So IMO he had zero interest to begin with and was just using us as a bargaining chip which is the status quo nowadays!

Why should I respect him for that??

Let me put it this way.....

I'm applying for grad schools right now, some of which are in areas I'd never want to live.

When they call me and offer me a bunch of cash to come there and offer to fly me out there to visit, I go. Just to be fair to myself.

Just because you think you don't want to be somewhere doesn't mean that there's no possibility that you could get there and see something that would change your mind. Even if it's a 1% chance.

 

[MadCardDisease]

It's called keeping your options open. You would be stupid not to.

 

[Shane]

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Originally posted by Ed B
Let me put it this way.....

I'm applying for grad schools right now, some of which are in areas I'd never want to live.

When they call me and offer me a bunch of cash to come there and offer to fly me out there to visit, I go. Just to be fair to myself.

Just because you think you don't want to be somewhere doesn't mean that there's no possibility that you could get there and see something that would change your mind. Even if it's a 1% chance.

I see what you are saying Ed and in most cases I would agree. But IMO the guy just jerked our chain.

Oh the guy chose to take ONLY (Sarcastic) 7 million as compared to 10 million up front. Hes a saint I dunno how he can afford to feed his family now? Sorry I just dont see anything admirable about it.

 

[Cards Czar]

Ed what grad school do you go to, that has company's wanting to give you a extra 3 million dollars. Let me know so I may apply!

 

[Ed B]

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Originally posted by Shane H
Oh the guy chose to take ONLY (Sarcastic) 7 million as compared to 10 million up front. Hes a saint I dunno how he can afford to feed his family now? Sorry I just dont see anything admirable about it.

Announcing "I am signing with Arizona" then signing with N.E. would be "jerking our chain".

Checking out all his options before making a decision isn't. Even if he was pretty sure he didn't want to come here.

 

[Ed B]

Originally posted by Zona99
Ed what grad school do you go to, that has company's wanting to give you a extra 3 million dollars. Let me know so I may apply!

$7,000,000 is still an astronomical sum, maybe colvin's mindset was "I'm just as rich with $7 mil as I am with 10, so i might as well live where i'd rather live".

 

[Cardinal Bob]

From today's Boston Globe...

''I felt like this was a better fit for me,'' Colvin said after signing a multiyear contract that reportedly will average more than $4 million a season but contain a bonus agreement that is less than the $5 million he was seeking up front. ''Coach [Bill] Belichick and his staff have developed a scheme that they feel is good and it fits them. I was impressed about everything.


Sounds like he got less than $7 million up front. That article was written by Ron Borges of the Globe staff. He's their NFL writer and I'd trust the accuracy of his info on Patriot matters. Borges reported the deal as 7-yrs., $30 million.

 

[RedStorm]

I disagree the guy made it clear that the reason he made his decision was that he did want to play on the west coast.

Maybe he said that so he would not burn any bridges. I think he just did not want to say what we already see.

 

[Shane]

Originally posted by Ed B
$7,000,000 is still an astronomical sum, maybe colvin's mindset was "I'm just as rich with $7 mil as I am with 10, so i might as well live where i'd rather live".

Not really heck after taxes he might only get 4.2 million. I feel for him!

 

[RonF]

How many teams can say they have players walking away from vast amounts of money laying on the table to seek greener pastures? It happens to us almost every year. What a joke! Why even come here if you are willing to sign for much less elsewhere? I agree with you Shane, we are the bargaining chip that players will use to reach the team that they are really after. Even when they sign for less elsewhere, it's still a good contract.

 

[ajcardfan]

Originally posted by Shane H
Not really heck after taxes he might only get 4.2 million. I feel for him!

He could of bought one hell of a house in Gold Canyon or Paradise Valley for 2mil and still put more cash into his pocket. Three times the house he's going to buy in NE. If he was milking us, he's a damn poor businessman.

 

[FJM]

Hey guys , why don't you face reality, when you let key Free Agents walk this is what you reap. Who's going to believe that we have a winner here in Arizona? Okay, maybe Blake and Emmitt.

 

[john h]

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Originally posted by ajcardfan
I'm with you Ed. It's hard to knock him for what he did. If I had known about the offers 24hrs ago, I'd have bet a wad of cash that he's sign here for that much more money. Just goes to show what an uphill fight it is for us in free agency.

It sure indicates the money was not the driving force. I have no problem at all with him going to a better team for less money. Who would you rather play for?