Conor Jackson in left field

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That settles it. The people that run this organization as far as lineups and positions go are morons.

I can't imagine Josh Byrnes going for this type of crap if he didn't agree, so I'm having my doubts about him too.
 

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The D-backs need to do whatever is humanly possible to bring more offense into the line-up... I like this move...
 

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I can't wait to see Conor falling over himself in left. Personally I don't think Reynolds is a major league talent, Tracy doesn't hit with enough power, and Conor can't learn his position. It's not like any of them hit with enough authority for me accept their fielding deficiencies. Personally I think these are all stop gap moves until we can find a bat to occupy one of our corner infield positions.

What would it take to get Miguel Cabrera? I'd be willing to send anyone but Upton from our farm system.
 

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I can't wait to see Conor falling over himself in left. Personally I don't think Reynolds is a major league talent, Tracy doesn't hit with enough power, and Conor can't learn his position. It's not like any of them hit with enough authority for me accept their fielding deficiencies. Personally I think these are all stop gap moves until we can find a bat to occupy one of our corner infield positions.

What would it take to get Miguel Cabrera? I'd be willing to send anyone but Upton from our farm system.



Cabrera?? At minimum you would need to part ways with Webb and Owings, as well as top farm system talent... just for starters...
 

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Cabrera?? At minimum you would need to part ways with Webb and Owings, as well as top farm system talent... just for starters...


Owings, Carlos Gonzales and perhaps another prospect might get it done. Giving up Webb is unrealistic and they wouldn't ask for him - they have enough pitching. Cabrera is making a lot of money considering what they want to pay. It wouldn't suprise me if they sold high on him within the next year considering his work habits and the Bartolo Colon diet that he's on.
 

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Owings, Carlos Gonzales and perhaps another prospect might get it done. Giving up Webb is unrealistic and they wouldn't ask for him - they have enough pitching. Cabrera is making a lot of money considering what they want to pay. It wouldn't suprise me if they sold high on him within the next year considering his work habits and the Bartolo Colon diet that he's on.


If it were any other team (sans Tampa Bay, KC or Pitt) I would say you're nuts... But I agree that Florida is one of the teams who try REALLY hard to keep their payroll at a minimum... Personally, if it were up to me there would be no way in hell I would cough up Cabrera for Owings, Gonzales and some other "prospect"...
 

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Cabrera?? At minimum you would need to part ways with Webb and Owings, as well as top farm system talent... just for starters...

Actually Joe, the reason the Marlins are talking of trading Cabrera to begin with is the fact that he's quickly going to become "too expensive" of a commodity for the Marlins to keep. No way in hell they'd take someone like Webb back, because of the same reasons-- his $$$. The Marlins run very much like what I define as a AAAA team-- the ultimate breeding ground for players to prove it on the big league level before they subsequently are moved on somewhere else and players they get back continue the cycle.

I see them asking for Young or Upton, Montero, probably Quentin and a prospect or two for Cabrera. Think the package Boston gave up for Beckett and there's somewhat of an idea what you can expect Florida to ask for any Cabrera talks.

As for Cabrera's weight, I'm probably the only one here who thinks it's a non-factor. I think of several players who are hardly body builders (Prince Fielder sits at 6-2, 265 and trust me that's not 265 of solid muscle). I think Cabrera would be a huge asset to the Diamondback organization and I'd not hesitate for one second if the Marlins offered him up to Arizona for some package of the "young guns". Let's think of it this way.. He's 24, slightly older than Jackson and Young, the same age as Drew and Montero; younger than Quentin.

Difference is, Cabrera has World Series experience, has SEVERAL 30 home run seasons under his belt (he's got 121 homers, almost 500 RBIs and a career batting average of .312). He's an ESTABLISHED All Star, whereas the afforementioned names are still trying to grow in to their major league capabilities.

As for his "weight", he's 6'4; 242 pounds now. Not exactly a bad weight to be carrying with his size.. When he gets to David Wells, Rich Garces weights, then I'll be concerned. Until then, I think his weight issue is exaggerated horrendously.

Regarding the topic at hand, I simply shake my head in disgust. It seems like this organization doesn't seem to have a damn clue what to do with Jackson. Yes, his 1B defense is atrocious. No arguments. But the more you continue to shuffle his positions, the more the guy's gonna have to continue to adjust in the field, which in turn is going to cause his biggest strength (his bat) to diminish.

The big problem with this team is this-- they've more or less six of the same player: a slap ball, pull hitter with 20-25 homer a year power. They lack a true leadoff man, they lack a true cleanup, power bat.
 
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Stoopid. Tracy did okay in right....why not put out Tracy, Reynolds and, the guy who has been hitting, Tony Clark?
 

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i like conor playing left field....just i wish it was for another team....
 

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Conor Jackson is teh worst player on the team playing a position that requires good offesnive production.
 

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I'll take a .262, 5 HR 5, 27 RBI guy with an OBP of .364 and a .398 slugging percentage as my "worst player" any day.
 

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I'll take a .262, 5 HR 5, 27 RBI guy with an OBP of .364 and a .398 slugging percentage as my "worst player" any day.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure what he meant to say was that Chris Snyder is the team's worst player. The words just didn't come out correctly when he posted before.
 

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Ahhhhhhhh.. That explains it.

Also, here's an off question-- why are we crucifying Jackson but giving Stephen Drew a free pass, when Drew's batting average, OBP and Slugging Percentage have been substantially WORSE than Jackson's?
 

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Ahhhhhhhh.. That explains it.

Also, here's an off question-- why are we crucifying Jackson but giving Stephen Drew a free pass, when Drew's batting average, OBP and Slugging Percentage have been substantially WORSE than Jackson's?

Drew plays very good defense and his been in the bigs for less time.
 

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Drew made more of a jump when he was brought up than when Jackson was. He barely had any time in AAA if I recall, whereas CoJack spent an entire season at that level.
 

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D'backs' Jackson on display for Sox?
By Phil Rogers, 12:39 p.m.

An interesting thing happened on Monday night in Milwaukee: The Arizona Diamondbacks played their first baseman, Conor Jackson, in left field, only the second time in his big-league career he has played there.

According to MLB sources, the Diamondbacks were showcasing him for a possible trade to the White Sox, who like his bat but have a logjam in the 1B/DH roles with Paul Konerko and Jim Thome. Arizona is looking for starting pitching and scouted Jose Contreras' last start, although the Diamondbacks are believed to be interested in younger starters, including Jon Garland and the seemingly untouchable John Danks.

If the White Sox keep their four signed starters, it is possible they could deal from their stockpile of young arms, with Danks, Gavin Floyd, knuckleballer Charlie Haeger, former first-round pick Lance Broadway and crafty lefty Heath Phillips among the names in play. They also have Gio Gonzalez, Jack Egbert and Adam Russell pushing for promotions at Double-A, so you wonder if it is out of the question for them to move Danks for young hitters.

Jackson isn't having the big season that was forecast for him, batting .262 with five homers and 27 RBIs in 77 games. But he is a skilled hitter, drawing more walks (37) than strikeouts (26). The Diamondbacks are also reportedly shopping right fielder Carlos Quentin, who recently hit his way back to Triple-A.

With Justin Upton rising fast, perhaps the Diamondbacks would consider moving center fielder Chris Young, whom they got from the White Sox in the Javy Vazquez trade. Young is hitting .238 with 14 homers and 11 stolen bases in his rookie season with the Diamondbacks. These talks bear watching.
 

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Still wouldn't trade Conor, plate discipline is still a very good indicator for offensive development and I'm pretty sure he leads the team in OBP and is among the best in the league in K/BB ratio. Although I'm a bit worried he ends up the next Sean Casey or Scott Hatteberg instead of Kevin Youkilis or Nick Johnson. I'd take that gamble though if the payout was Jose Contreras.
 

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As frustrating as Connor can be, I don't think trading him for an old pitcher w/ an ERA around/over 5 is a very smart idea.
 

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