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CARACAS, Venezuela -- The United States will open the Copa America on June 28 against Argentina.

The U.S. Soccer Federation announced Tuesday night that the Americans were placed into a group with the Argentines for the first round of the 12-nation tournament, the championship of South America. The U.S. team and Mexico are invited guests.

Mexico will play Brazil on June 27, the USSF said. Venezuela, the host country, plays the tournament opener against Bolivia on June 26.

The remainder of the first round will be determined during Wednesday's draw. The tournament will be played in nine Venezuelan cites and concludes July 15.

The United States last competed in the tournament in 1995, when it finished fourth.

Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press
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Nothing like starting out the tournament with a bang! In a competition as solid as the Copa America they couldn't hope to duck quality opponents and advance to the knockout rounds.

It'll be interesting to see the rest of the group. Should be fun.
 
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I think a lot depends on what team the US brings, who the coach is at the time and of course how they are playing.

The US still needs to find an answer at striker. The answer against Mexico wasn't starting two 5' 8" guys with speed but no muscle, neither was a threat in the air...hopefully someone steps up between now and then.

The US defense and in GK should continue to be solid.

Midfield is still missing a couple of key players, namely attacking mid...a few months to hammer that out may not be enough.
 

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I think a lot depends on what team the US brings, who the coach is at the time and of course how they are playing.

The US still needs to find an answer at striker. The answer against Mexico wasn't starting two 5' 8" guys with speed but no muscle, neither was a threat in the air...hopefully someone steps up between now and then.

The US defense and in GK should continue to be solid.

Midfield is still missing a couple of key players, namely attacking mid...a few months to hammer that out may not be enough.

I think Ching and Johnson have a lot to bring to the table as strikers, and could probably partner well. I have no idea how Bradley feels about them, what his strategy is, or if he will even be the coach.
 
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I think Ching and Johnson have a lot to bring to the table as strikers, and could probably partner well. I have no idea how Bradley feels about them, what his strategy is, or if he will even be the coach.

I hope Johnson returns to the form he displayed for that stretch during the last WC qualifiers. He is still very young so it should happen.

Ching is OK, I like Twellman better.

I'm really hoping someone like Kenny Cooper emerges, he's got the size and nose for goal, h ejust needs to prove it as an International.
 
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The Associated Press
Published: February 14, 2007


CARACAS, Venezuela: Reigning champion Brazil will open defense of its Copa America title against Mexico and also face Ecuador and Chile in the first round of the South American nations championship.

Wednesday's draw placed Colombia and Paraguay in Group C along with Argentina and the United States, while Peru and Uruguay join Bolivia and host Venezuela in Group A.

Brazil, which has won the Copa America seven times in addition to its five World Cup titles, will open against Mexico on June 27 in the southeastern city of Puerto Ordaz.

The United States will open June 28 against Argentina, which shares the record of 14 Copa America titles with Uruguay.

Venezuela plays the tournament opener against Bolivia on June 26.

The first two teams in each group and the best two of the third-place holders will advance to the second round. The semifinals are set for July 10-11 and the final match for July 15 in the western city of Maracaibo.
 

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The Associated Press
Published: February 14, 2007


CARACAS, Venezuela: Reigning champion Brazil will open defense of its Copa America title against Mexico and also face Ecuador and Chile in the first round of the South American nations championship.

Wednesday's draw placed Colombia and Paraguay in Group C along with Argentina and the United States, while Peru and Uruguay join Bolivia and host Venezuela in Group A.

Brazil, which has won the Copa America seven times in addition to its five World Cup titles, will open against Mexico on June 27 in the southeastern city of Puerto Ordaz.

The United States will open June 28 against Argentina, which shares the record of 14 Copa America titles with Uruguay.

Venezuela plays the tournament opener against Bolivia on June 26.

The first two teams in each group and the best two of the third-place holders will advance to the second round. The semifinals are set for July 10-11 and the final match for July 15 in the western city of Maracaibo.

Well, I think we should be able to advance.
 
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I think we should as well, but it will be a challenge as Paraguay and Colombia can put good teams on the field at times. I honestly don't know the state of their national teams now.

Look at the group Venezuela got--Peru, Uruguay and Bolivia...talk about gifting them round 2.
 
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I always take the FIFA rankings with a grain of salt but...

Argentina #3
USA #31
Colombia #34
Paraguay #35

It'll be very interesting to see what team the US brings down there. Whether or not we bring all our top flight players probably depends a lot on how the Gold Cup goes. The Gold Cup ends June 24th and the Copa America starts June 26th.

I'd much rather have our best team at Copa America with our European based players, since the Gold Cup is in the US it can be a much more MLS heavy squad.
 
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U.S. likely to send "B" team to Copa America
Jeff Carlisle, ESPNsoccernet


For those wishing to see the U.S. men's national team in more high-pressure games, they got what they hoped for on Wednesday as the draw for this summer's Copa America was announced in Venezuela. The Americans were drawn into Group C, which contains Argentina, Paraguay and Colombia, three teams that should provide the U.S. with a stern test. Unfortunately, a crowded summer calendar will likely prevent America's best players from reaping the benefits of this competition.

To be fair, the U.S. Soccer Federation and U.S. interim head coach Bob Bradley are facing a logistical nightmare. The Gold Cup will run from June 6-24, while the Americans' first match in Copa America against Argentina will take place on June 28 in Maracaibo, Venezuela. Given that club coaches in both MLS and in Europe will be reluctant to have their players participate in both tournaments, it seems likely that a different squad -- with a few exceptions -- will be used in each competition. Faced with that reality, Bradley made it clear on Wednesday where he would place his priorities.

"The Gold Cup is still the most important event for us," Bradley said. "Obviously, it's our confederation championship, but the main reason that I think it's extra important is because winning the Gold Cup will earn us three very good games in South Africa in 2009 [at the Confederations Cup]. Moving forward, the opportunity to try to play in order to get those kinds of games is very important."

Bradley added that the timing of the respective tournaments also makes it more likely his European-based performers will play in the Gold Cup rather than Copa America. Those players will have just completed their club seasons, and their participation in the Gold Cup should still allow them some time off before reporting for preseason training with their teams some time in July.

Certainly the logic in which Bradley arrived at his decision makes sense. The opportunity to play in South Africa at the Confederations Cup will not only provide the U.S. with three more competitive games, but it will give the USSF a chance to work out any logistical kinks one year ahead of the World Cup.

Yet I can't shake the feeling that in some ways, the logic is all backwards. The primary reason for entering Copa America is that it provides better competition in a much more hostile environment than the Gold Cup does. But instead of sending its strongest team to Venezuela, the U.S. will be sending its B team. Both Brazil and Argentina have taken a similar approach in the past, but if last summer's World Cup proved anything, it's that even the most experienced American players would benefit from playing in Copa America, and the fact that they won't is a shame.

At the least, dealing with both competitions should give Bradley ample opportunity to call up European-based players like Watford's Jay DeMerit and Sheffield Wednesday's Frank Simek, who have been on the outside looking in as far as national team call-ups are concerned.

And given the draw the U.S. was handed, having at least some players with European experience will be needed. Following its opener against Argentina, the U.S. will face Paraguay on July 2 before finishing with Colombia on July 5. While a third-place finish might be enough to qualify the U.S. for the quarterfinals, Bradley is under no illusions as to the difficulty of the Americans' task, especially as it pertains to their first opponent.

"[Argentina has] some tremendous players, real stars," Bradley said. "Whenever you play against a team like that, the bar gets raised to incredible heights in terms of what every player on the field must do; how they must step up, how they must concentrate. It puts our ability to handle the ball under pressure under a microscope, because Argentina is not only a team that is very good with the ball, but a team that understands how to put pressure on the opponent."

Bradley's point about possession is telling, if for no other reason than that is where the U.S. has struggled the most during his tenure. Fortunately, the players that Bradley will have at his disposal this summer will be closer to peak form than the group he had at the beginning of the year. And while results are always important, the Americans' ability to keep the ball and carry more of the game to their opponents will be perhaps a clearer indicator of the team's progress under Bradley.

Of course, that assumes that Bradley will still be the coach when both the Gold Cup and Copa America commence. When the topic was broached with USSF President Sunil Gulati last week during an informal roundtable with reporters, Gulati was his usual, close-to-the-vest self. When asked if a decision would be made before the summer, Gulati said, "Maybe," adding that the decision could stretch into late summer. He also stated a decision would not be made while either the Gold Cup or Copa America was going on.

Given that the European club season still has three months to go, Gulati evidently feels that time is his ally, and it may be for the moment. But I would be very surprised if the decision is made after the Copa America, especially if it involves opting for a coach other than Bradley. That would risk wasting much of the work that has been done since January.

A more logical approach would be to make a decision in April or May. If a coach other than Bradley is named, there would be sufficient time before the Gold Cup to get up to speed. If Bradley wins the job, then he would carry on as before.

Based on Wednesday's conference call, Bradley sounded like a man expecting to be in charge come summer. U.S. fans should hope this attitude will extend to the players as well.

Jeff Carlisle covers MLS and the U.S. national team for ESPNsoccernet. He can be reached at [email protected].
 

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Idiotic. Absolutely stupid. We send our B side down there, and we'll get slaughtered. Working out kinks? That is NOT why we're supposed to be there! We're supposed to be there to get our A side some senior experience against some of the best teams in the world, to improve against them, and to build momentum. Ugh! The logic is all backwards. Bradley seems to have his head in a dark place, we don't have a top coach, we're sending a B side to Copa America, and where's the bright light at the end of the tunnel? Better off to not have gone than to send a B side. Idiots!
 
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I'm not happy with it either. Who cares if they piss of MLS teams, the national team should be priority number one.

Yeah they'd be tired from 6 weeks of straight soccer (assuming they go all the way in both tournaments--which is a stretch) but the experience they'd get from playing and training with each other will be extremely valuable.

I can understnad maybe swapping out some players---but not the majority, we can't have 2 separate teams. If we take a 23 man roster to both tournaments no more than 5-9 players should change (and they shouldn't be core players, those expected to start).
 

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I'm not happy with it either. Who cares if they piss of MLS teams, the national team should be priority number one.

Yeah they'd be tired from 6 weeks of straight soccer (assuming they go all the way in both tournaments--which is a stretch) but the experience they'd get from playing and training with each other will be extremely valuable.

I can understnad maybe swapping out some players---but not the majority, we can't have 2 separate teams. If we take a 23 man roster to both tournaments no more than 5-9 players should change (and they shouldn't be core players, those expected to start).

I'm with you, Zeno. The MLS season setup is a real threat to us achieving high goals with the national team. A serious pain in the rear. Ugh.
 

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I'm with you, Zeno. The MLS season setup is a real threat to us achieving high goals with the national team. A serious pain in the rear. Ugh.

Amen, brother. This is one of the reasons that sometimes I just can't get into the MLS.....although well meaning, it is sometimes counterproductive to the main objective.
On another MNT note I'm not convinced about Bob Bradley. Although his last 2 games have been positive, he seems to be too much of a continuation of Bruce Arena. No major changes in his rosters and no major changes in schemes. Most new coaches seem to inject some of their personality into their team, but Bradley hasn't done any of that IMHO. The team still feels like Arena's team....or is it just me?
 

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That's surprising they would send the 'B' team. I'd say nearly all South American nations take this cup seriously, and will have some of their best players playing. Also, Paraguay has always had pretty good defensive teams, and I don't believe that will change. Colombia has been inconsistent in the past, but are capable of being very dangerous, with quick ball movement and some skilled players
 
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On another MNT note I'm not convinced about Bob Bradley. Although his last 2 games have been positive, he seems to be too much of a continuation of Bruce Arena. No major changes in his rosters and no major changes in schemes. Most new coaches seem to inject some of their personality into their team, but Bradley hasn't done any of that IMHO. The team still feels like Arena's team....or is it just me?

I'm with you...I'm seeing too many in the media calling for him to get the interim tag removed. Does everyone forget Steve Sampson? He was the coach when the US finished in 4th in Copa America in 1995 and he was an absolute terrible coach in the 98 WC.

Bradley's inclusion of Albright and Rolfe in 2 starting lineups as well as some of the questionable call ups to training camp and stupid exclusions are making it hard for me to get behind the guy.

Heath Pearce is the US's best Left Back yet he only gets garbage time aginst Denmark while Bradley's boy Bornstein who he coached at Chivas USA starts both games (he didn't play terribly but Pearce can lock down that position).

He has a lot of work to do in my opinion to prove he has what it takes.
 
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