Crawford deal may be done

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It was reported on the NBATV bottom ticker as well.

http://www.nypost.com/sports/knicks/26100.htm

CRAWFORD KNICK DEAL IS AT HAND
By PETER VECSEY and MARC BERMAN

August 3, 2004 -- Bull combo guard Jamal Crawford could become a Knick as soon as today, as Chicago GM John Paxson has made a counter-offer that Knick president Isiah Thomas is expected to accept, according to sources.

Paxson has removed two overpaid swingmen — the Knicks' Shandon Anderson and the Bulls' Eddie Robinson — from the deal, allowing the Bulls to save an additional $10 million in future payroll.

Though Thomas wanted to move Anderson, it appears Paxson is willing to accept Moochie Norris in a compromise the Knick president couldn't refuse.

Meanwhile, The Post has also learned Golden State center Erick Dampier will visit the Knicks in New York this week, an indication the Knicks are still very much in the hunt.

If the Crawford deal goes through as expected, the Knicks still have the pawns to trade for Dampier or at least be in position to award him the mid-level exception. Nazr Mohammed, Kurt Thomas and Othella Harrington are all available in a Dampier package.

In a related story, the Hawks are now talking to Dallas about Antoine Walker.

Meanwhile, the pared-down Crawford package would likely include Dikembe Mutombo, Norris and $3 million moving to the Bulls for Jerome Williams and Crawford, at the very least. It's unclear if the newest offer attempted to bring back Frank Williams in the package. Crawford would sign a six-year, $55 million contract.

Paxson had expressed his desire to jettison both Williams and Robinson in this trade. Although Paxson thought Anderson could be a good defensive role player, his contract that has three years and $23.7 million left on it is one of the NBA's worst, more severe than Robinson's (2 years, $14M). Isiah had hoped to rid himself of Anderson, whose offensive performance in the playoffs was pitiful.

The sign-and-trade talks for the Bulls combo guard has been interminable, lasting all of July and hitting another roadblock a week ago when the two sides met face-to-face in the Windy City Summit at O'Hare Airport with Isiah trying to convince the Bulls Norris' pact is not insufferable because the last year is not guaranteed.

On Saturday, agent Aaron Goodwin said progress was made since the summit and a source indicated the sides had moved on past the Moochie issue. "I'm a little frustrated, but it will get better," Goodwin told The Post Saturday. "Chicago wants the perfect deal. We're trying to get them to accept a very good one."

Goodwin declined comment last night.
 

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In the end the Crawford deal just turned into a salary dump of Jerome Williams who has three years left on his contract:

2004-05 $5.6 million
2005-06 $6.1 million
2006-07 $6.4 million

Williams came over to Chicago in the big trade that sent Jalen Rose and Marshall to Toronto. Actually Williams played pretty well:

Jerome Williams
Chicago Bulls
Position: F-C
Height: 6-9 Weight: 206
College: Georgetown '96
Player file | Team stats

2003-04 Statistics
PPG 6.2
RPG 7.0
APG 1.1
SPG 1.32
BPG .12
FG% .470
FT% .684
3P% .000
MPG 24.1

Williams has no shooting range, so he ends up being a rather light PF. He gets a lot of rebounds, but is not a big threat offensively.
 

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Crawford apparantly rejects the deal:

LOL, that's great! I love seeing Isiah Thomas fail.
 

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Do the Knicks have any white players left on their team?

If Isiah was smart he would have tried to sign Brian Cardinal and Fred Hoiberg. But they are probably too white for him like Keith Van Horn and Michael Doleac who were both very good fits with Marbury's style.
 

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slinslin said:
Do the Knicks have any white players left on their team?

If Isiah was smart he would have tried to sign Brian Cardinal and Fred Hoiberg. But they are probably too white for him like Keith Van Horn and Michael Doleac who were both very good fits with Marbury's style.

I'm not sure "whiteness" has anything to do with anything, but I am sure that Issah Thomas has no clue about how to use Marbury. But then again, I can't figure out how Larry Brown let the Olympic committee stick him with the guard line he has: either start a rookie or have Allen Iverson and Stephon Marbury in the lineup at the same time. Is that a lineup made in hades or what? :shrug:
 

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It might be just me but I get the feeling that Isiah Thomas does let "race" influence his GM moves thats what it has to do with all that.
I can't remember ever reading "Isiah Thomas wants -insert white player-" and he has traded all he had.. Van Horn, Milos, Lampe, Trybanski, Doleac...
 

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slinslin said:
It might be just me but I get the feeling that Isiah Thomas does let "race" influence his GM moves thats what it has to do with all that.
I can't remember ever reading "Isiah Thomas wants -insert white player-" and he has traded all he had.. Van Horn, Milos, Lampe, Trybanski, Doleac...

I don't think Thomas understands what Marbury needs around him. Marbury, even more than every other point guard, needs shooters around him. He is a drive and kick point guard. That's the reason the New York Knicks were so much better when they still had Keith Van Horn and Allan Houston was healthy.

I think Thomas is a piss poor GM.

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slinslin said:
It might be just me but I get the feeling that Isiah Thomas does let "race" influence his GM moves thats what it has to do with all that.
I can't remember ever reading "Isiah Thomas wants -insert white player-" and he has traded all he had.. Van Horn, Milos, Lampe, Trybanski, Doleac...

You're right. Some people just live in denial.

The race issue exists all over the NBA but talking about it just gets everybody mad at you.

IMO Isiah made a bad trade just to get rid of Van Horn.
 

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