DA 28 ARI 17: Q's and A's

Mitch

Crawled Through 5 FB Fields
Joined
Aug 10, 2005
Posts
13,405
Reaction score
2,982
Location
Wrentham, MA
1. Tackling RB Ezekiel Elliott.

Will the Cardinals wear, as James Bettcher like to say, "their big boy pants?" Will any Cardinal line up and hit Elliott the way D.J. Swearinger (defensive captain of the Redskins) put a lick on Marshawn Lynch last night?

Pretty good effort versus Elliott until the 4th quarter. Lots of swarming and gang tackling. But, as we saw, you can't have the edges crashing down on Elliott all game and not get burned by bootlegs, QB read options and easy, wide open QB sprint outs ---which led to huge chunk passing yards and the last 2 TDs.

2. Blocking DE DeMarcus Lawrence.

In watching the Cowboys' first two games, Lawrence has lined up primarily on the outside eye of the RT and he has been wreaking havoc off the edge and off loop stunts. A one-on-one matchup versus RT Jared Veldheer does not favor Veldheer. Therefore, what kind of help will the coaches give Veldheer? BA is loath to provide help, but does Lawrence change that line of thinking, particularly versus a struggling Veldheer?

Embarrassing...not just that Veldheer struggled so badly, but that he was given zero help. I haven't seen any RT able to block Lawrence this year...so going in, this was a key. BA says "we don't change for anyone." Well, this game is further proof of BA's set ways, and now everyone in the NFL knows the Cardinals' weaknesses and they now exploit them week after week.

3. Pass Coverages and Matchups

What are the coverage matchups and how often will Bettcher mix in zone? It would appear pretty certain that Patrick Peterson will be matched on Dez Bryant and that Tyrann Mathieu will be matched on slot WR Cole Beasley. Terrance Williams has been battling an ankle injury, but he did practice on Saturday. Justin Bethel should be matched on Williams. But, perhaps the most key matchup is the trio of Haason Reddick, Karlos Dansby and Tyvon Branch on TE Jason Witten. As for mixing in zones...that's a tough proposition because the Cowboys' receivers are adept at beating zones, particularly Bryant, Beasley and Witten. Pressure on young QB Dak Prescott is paramount, as is keeping him hemmed in the pocket. Will the Cardinals be able to limit Prescott's effectiveness?

Patrick Peterson did a nice job on Dez Bryant. Dez's TD came versus zone and the fact that FS Antoine Bethea basically let Dez stand him up and bowl him 4 yards into the end zone. Justin Bethel got beat for the TD pass to Brice Butler. Tyron Mathieu showed why he is not a capable FS...but neither is Antoine Bethea. Dansby but turned the wrong way in zone and gave up a long 3rd down conversion. Boy Dansby looked out of it tonight. Reddick was very good in coverage and made one nice TFL versus Elliott. But Reddick still sometimes overruns the holes he's supposed to fill, which one would expect from a rookie who has never played the ILB position.

BTW--- if you watched the Redskins smoke the Raiders last night, their two top UFA defensive signings FS D.J. Swearinger and LB Zach Brown played big and physically tough all night. On the first day of free agency the Cardinals signed the 33 year old Bethea ($3.4M cap hit this year) and the 35 year old Dansby ($2.25 + incentives cap hit this year)...meanwhile this year's cap hits for Swearinger and Brown---who were signed after the Cardinals signed Bethea and Dansby---are $3.3M and $2.5M respectively...so the Redskins signed the 26 year old Swearinger (who is now their defensive captain) and the 27 year old Brown for basically the same cap hits. Plus, add in Steve Keim's other top 3 UFA K Phil Dawson and this is what Keim bargained for.

Markus Golden played what has to be the most undisciplined OLB/DE performance I have seen in the NFL. At NO point did he ever concern himself with contain. By crashing inside almost every play, he left his side of the field wide open and YET, he KEPT crashing down over and over. Those were gift option runs (1st TD) for Prescott and his unpressured rollouts, the TD to Butler and long pass to Butler to set up the 4th TD (which Honey Badger played so poorly and lethargically).


4. The Cardinals Passing Game

Can Carson Palmer and the Cardinals exploit the Cowboys' secondary? Much will depend on the pass protection. But, the Cowboys' secondary had a rough time handling the Broncos' passing game, often because of Trevor Siemien's mobility. Obviously, Palmer will have to try to beat the Cowboys' secondary from the pocket or off of play action (which may be harder to see if the running game is not clicking). The question too is how healthy the Cardinals WR unit is with John Brown out, J.J. Nelson nursing a hamstring injury and Jaron Brown leaving the Colts' game with a limp. Could we see more from Fitz, Brittan Golden and Chad Williams? Or will we see more attention paid to the TEs (Gresham, Niklas, Momah) and RBs (Johnson, Williams, Ellington) in the passing game this week?

Carson Palmer played his tail off and it's too bad because he was on fire when he was given the time and he did not make his usual 3-4 bad passes in this game. Larry Fitzgerald proved that he still can play any WR spot, as his post fade TD was a work of art. Fitz's juggling catch on the jump ball with Scandrick was extraordinary and yet almost expected by now from Fitz. Jaron Brown almost had a 3 TD night, if it weren't for Veldheer's untimely holding penalty and Brown not getting his first toe inside the back line of the end zine on the last effort. J.J. Nelson had deep pass opportunities, but in a game where Plamer was getting harassed by a 3 man rush...yes a 3 man rush....it was tough to throw the ball deep. Chad Williams had a nice 3rd down conversion and Andre Ellington was very good receiving the ball out of the backfield (and ran hard between the tackles!), although it seemed so surreal to watch him run right past DeMarcus Lawrence on pass routes and not at least put a hand on him. Gresham had some catches, but his blocking was brutally poor...and yet he was signed by Keim at $7.25M a year for 3 years.

5. Special Teams

Who wins the ST's battle in this game? It would appear heading into the game that the Cowboys have the advantage. K Dan Bailey is 5/5 FGs and 3/3 XPTs, while K Phil Dawson is 4/6 and 3/3. P Chris Jones averages 43.1/net 40.8, while P Andy Lee averages 46.2/net 38.3. KR/PR Ryan Switzer: 2 KOs/21.0 ave., 2 PRs/9.5 ave. Kerwynn Williams: 4 KOs/20.3 ave., 2 PRs/3.0 ave. Will the Cardinals' STs take a big step forward this week?

The Cardinals once again showed why they are a mistake waiting to happen on STs. The Cowboys dominated the game on STs. The Dawson miss of a 36 yard chip shot, sucked pretty much all of the great momentum the Cardinals had earned in the 1st quarter out of the stadium. The Cowboys pressured Andy Lee into some short low punts...conversely Chris Jones was booming 56 yarders which were either allowed to bounce or fair caught. Ryan Switzer had a nifty 21 yard punt return. K. Williams and Patrick Peterson got nada. And to show you how badly coached the STs units are, the Cardinals only rushed half-heartedly on Bryant's kicks, if they rushed at all. Peterson once just stood up and didn't rush the edge at all.

BA and his staff got badly out coached after the 1st quarter. Only one team appeared to be making adjustments.
 
Last edited:

LoyaltyisaCurse

IF AND WHEN HEALTHY...
Joined
Aug 10, 2004
Posts
53,873
Reaction score
19,668
Location
CA
We have no nasty on our D and DJ Swear was that man, plus he played excellent football last season. Letting him go was the 2nd biggest mistake of the defensive offseason. #1 is CC.
 

82CardsGrad

7 x 70
Joined
Dec 31, 2004
Posts
36,104
Reaction score
7,965
Location
Scottsdale
Yea.. almost impossible to grasp just how bad this team STILL is on special teams. Amazing...
But this game was entirely lost due to the horrific play of the oline... Palmer got beat down and yet still played very well. Amazing...
And for some unexplainable reason, we continue to have guys in our secondary who can't seem to make what I consider to be fairly basic athletic plays (TD on Bethel and the almost TD on Badger).
 

BillsCarnage

ASFN Addict
Joined
Dec 2, 2005
Posts
5,827
Reaction score
1,197
Location
The Flip Side
We have no nasty on our D and DJ Swear was that man, plus he played excellent football last season. Letting him go was the 2nd biggest mistake of the defensive offseason. #1 is CC.
I'd put Swearinger first. CC was more sentimental, but youth was on DJ's side. Not to mention he has the nasty this secondary could use.
 
Last edited:

Vermont Maverick

Registered
Joined
Apr 24, 2006
Posts
1,861
Reaction score
181
Location
Williston, Vermont
"We don't change for nobody". Typical pig head BA. Belichick changes for EVERYBODY. That's how you win. The shine is off. BA is the offensive version of the Ryan clan. The bravado is refreshing at first, but the lack of attention to detail catches up with you. Thanks for the first 3 years, after these last 2 it's time to move on.

And Keim, what are you going to do with that $12M cap space that you didn't use to keep our guys. The Bethel thing really bothers me. Why force a pay cut to save a measly $2M, and let him be a FA a year early? What if he has a good year, you'll never get him back for the $5M you had him for. Marcus "Leon Lett" Cooper got $5M last year, and the cap is always going up.
 
Last edited:

ajcardfan

I see you.
Supporting Member
Joined
May 13, 2002
Posts
38,476
Reaction score
25,383
The thing is Dallas made almost NO adjustments. That defense was so vanilla, it looked like a preseason game plan. Rush 4 or 3 only, drop everyone else into coverage, and keep two safeties deep. We couldn't run the ball worth a crap, and then when we passed the amount of pressure they got without blitizing. They just started whipping us man against man. I honestly think Carson Palmer got hit more in this game than I've ever seen for a Cardinals QB. It had to be around 90% that he got hit. His courage was amazing, because it was damn brutal to watch at times.

The defense need to make a big play at some point, but they couldn't do it. Dallas made almost no mistakes, and Prescott made a few big plays.

We were so dominate in the first quarter, which sucks to think about. It is also sad that Fitz made such a huge effort to put the team on his back but it wasn't enough,
 

Garthshort

ASFN Addict
Joined
Aug 11, 2002
Posts
9,495
Reaction score
5,740
Location
Scarsdale, NY
I still don't understand our safeties? Could someone list all of the safeties and what position they play? And, if different, what position, should they play.
 
OP
OP
Mitch

Mitch

Crawled Through 5 FB Fields
Joined
Aug 10, 2005
Posts
13,405
Reaction score
2,982
Location
Wrentham, MA
The thing is Dallas made almost NO adjustments. That defense was so vanilla, it looked like a preseason game plan. Rush 4 or 3 only, drop everyone else into coverage, and keep two safeties deep. We couldn't run the ball worth a crap, and then when we passed the amount of pressure they got without blitizing. They just started whipping us man against man. I honestly think Carson Palmer got hit more in this game than I've ever seen for a Cardinals QB. It had to be around 90% that he got hit. His courage was amazing, because it was damn brutal to watch at times.

The defense need to make a big play at some point, but they couldn't do it. Dallas made almost no mistakes, and Prescott made a few big plays.

We were so dominate in the first quarter, which sucks to think about. It is also sad that Fitz made such a huge effort to put the team on his back but it wasn't enough,

The Cowboys made key adjustments all night.

1. They saw that the Cardinals' defense and their edge OLBs were selling out to stop Zeke. So they adjusted and ran easy, made-to-order bootlegs, read options and sprint outs...those plays won them the football game. Read option TD for Dak. Sprint out TD from Dak to Butler. Same later for 53 yards, Zach to Butler to set up the 4th TD. Golden and Jones took the bait all night (mostly Golden, but Jones on the 53 yard pass to Butler---so much so that Jones did;t even go after Dak he just ran backward toward the flat as if he was in coverage, allowing Dak to sit there alone unpressured at all).

2. On defense, they saw they could rush 3 men and play 5 man-to-man under with 3 safeties. What an advantage that is for aany team to be able to do.

3. They saw that they could get pressure on Dawson and Lee and took advantage of it so much that they flipped the field for the entire second half.
 
OP
OP
Mitch

Mitch

Crawled Through 5 FB Fields
Joined
Aug 10, 2005
Posts
13,405
Reaction score
2,982
Location
Wrentham, MA
I still don't understand our safeties? Could someone list all of the safeties and what position they play? And, if different, what position, should they play.

The Cardinals invert their safeties. Honey Badger was up in the box most of the night, but was used at FS on the 53 yard pass to Butler.

Bethea played FS but was lined up 25 yards back...likely because of his lack of speed.

Branch plays SS, FS and nickel...and he has become the best and leading tackler on the team.

Baker plays well in his 3-4 plays a game (they are using him up as a SS/slot CB). He made a nice pressure play on Dak's roll out in the end zone.
 

82CardsGrad

7 x 70
Joined
Dec 31, 2004
Posts
36,104
Reaction score
7,965
Location
Scottsdale
Had Badger not missed that tackle in the backfield on Elliott's long run, and had Badger made a routine athletic play on Butler's long catch, the game would've likely been different. But of course, the loss MUST begin and end with the horrific play of our oline... Palmer took a tremendous beating and we had less than 50 yards rushing. I don't care who you're playing, you won't win games with that recipe...
 

WindCardinal

All Star
Joined
Sep 10, 2012
Posts
927
Reaction score
750
Location
Abilene TX
Not sure what happened to Alex Boone at the end of the game but a line of Humphries-Iupati-Shipley-Boone-Wetzel might be something worth trying
 

Ohcrap75

Hall of Famer
Joined
Jan 3, 2014
Posts
1,270
Reaction score
723
I still have no idea why we gave Gresham that contract. His ceiling is average at best. I was the biggest Campbell backer, but admit 15 million was too high for him. But I would take him at that price 100 times out of 100 instead of Gresham's. Jacksonville can get out of Campbell's deal after 2018 with 3 million in dead cap space. Gresham would have 5.75 million for us with a 8.25 million cap hit in 2019... Sweet!!
 

Staff online

Forum statistics

Threads
553,134
Posts
5,405,490
Members
6,316
Latest member
Dermadent
Top