David Johnson's Future

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When I was studying David Johnson's tapes at Northern Iowa before the 2015 NFL Draft what jumped out at me is how gifted he is in the open field. What concerned me is that despite his excellent balance and upper body strength, his upright style of running was going to make it difficult for him to endure as a RB in the NFL.

What was easy to see is that Johnson's main form of protection from tacklers is his outstanding stiff-arm and the leverage he can gain by fending off tacklers through a combination of stiff-arm strength and uncanny balance.

But here's the problem...even at Northern Iowa Johnson was not one to initiate contact, nor was he one to lower his shoulder, so as to protect his legs and so as to make tacklers think twice about trying to take down his 6-1, 224 pound frame. In this sense, Johnson does not use his excellent size to its full advantage.

Now that Johnson is marked man, being the nation's #1 fantasy football phenom, he is going to attract a crowd of tacklers whenever he touches the football. We saw how the Lions gang tackled him --- that's what it takes. Gang tackles. But this is what left Johnson in this game so vulnerable. Instead of finishing off his runs by initiating the contact himself he did what he often does which was to to absorb the contact and somehow try to maintain his balance.

The first pass he caught over the middle, he got sandwiched and hit from behind, which bent his neck downward and caused his first fumble. On the 24 yard pass play that set up Kerwynn Williams' TD, Johnson got gang tackled and took a helmet to his wrist. It was a nasty collision. On the 3rd quarter fumble that turned the game in totally favor of the Lions, Johnson again did not look to initiate the contact and therefore drive through the tackler and thus he took a hard hit to his right, followed by a sandwich hit to his left, which jarred the ball loose and sent Johnson careening backward to the turf.

Catfish made an excellent observation when he noted that it may not have helped Johnson to lose 10 pounds this off-season. Being 10 pounds lighter does not help Johnson's cause as an NFL RB...as a WR, yes. But, not as a RB.

Thus, one of two things has to happen moving forward. Johnson has to make changes in his running style, which involve changing his pad level and lowering the shoulder to initiate contact, rather than staying upright and having to absorb the contact. Or, he should be switched to WR. The whole key with Johnson is finding ways to get him the ball in space and he has a better chance to do that at the WR position, from the slot, out of motion and on reverses, than he does being in a 1 RB backfield and being keyed on by every player in the front 7.

It would not surprise me in the least if Johnson requests the position change to WR himself. It would do more to help him preserve his career and from a money standpoint good WRs get paid more handsomely than good RBs. A win-win for Johnson.

With Larry Fitzgerald on the verge of retirement, moving David Johnson to WR and adding a couple of good RBs, one by free agency and one by the draft, could be a real boon for the Cardinals.

The goal remains the same --- get David Johnson the ball in space and let him do his thing. The only difference is moving him around and making him more of an immediate threat at the line of scrimmage and a couple of steps closer to pay dirt.
 

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Fantasy owners would be very upset if DJ was switched to WR, unless BA says he'll be moved back to RB when Az is in the Red Zone. And I've spoken to a lot of Fantasy owners, so I know of where I speak.
 
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Fantasy owners would be very upset if DJ was switched to WR, unless BA says he'll be moved back to RB when Az is in the Red Zone. And I've spoken to a lot of Fantasy owners, so I know of where I speak.

What looks like "fantasy", based on DJ's running style, is that he will be able to withstand 25 touches a game, 16 games a year. He almost made it last year, but the odds are not in his favor that he will be able to that again.

I know moving Johnson to WR isn't going to be popular with a lot of fans...but...hey the Cardinals could decide to ride Johnson hard for another year and hope he can stay healthy. But, in the long run, do they want to keep him long-term? If so, he will have to change his running style or he will have to be used in a different role.

David Johnson has the ability to be one of the elite WRs in the game.
 

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Mitch, naturally I was kidding. But it seems to me that in NFL FB, RB is more important than WR. What you're describing for DJ is a few years down the road.
 

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Mitch. I love your posts but no way is he moved to WR. This is a little overreaction. He Got hurt but he is still a dynamic RB but what makes him a great WR is he being covered by players not as fast as he is. And he catches the ball in the open field ....he needs to gain the extra 10 pounds back and We need better play calling or a better offensive line. If we had Dallas line...DJ would get 7 yards a carry ....I mean our offense this weekend was run straight ahead and Detroit was stacking the box. Carson was off on his throws so Detroit felt like they can cover with less. A pass rush stops the best passing attacks. Plus it shuts down runs straight ahead
 
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Mitch. I love your posts but no way is he moved to WR. This is a little overreaction. He Got hurt but he is still a dynamic RB but what makes him a great WR is he being covered by players not as fast as he is. And he catches the ball in the open field ....he needs to gain the extra 10 pounds back and We need better play calling or a better offensive line. If we had Dallas line...DJ would get 7 yards a carry ....I mean our offense this weekend was run straight ahead and Detroit was stacking the box. Carson was off on his throws so Detroit felt like they can cover with less. A pass rush stops the best passing attacks. Plus it shuts down runs straight ahead

You are saying what I want to believe, Cards_Campos. We will see if he can take the pounding as un upright runner. I am worried about his knees. He dodged a major bullet last year versus the Rams.
 
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There's no way in hell any NFL team will take 1 of its best players, change positions that's limits his touches from 20+ to 7+!!!

Sorry Mitch but it's just not reality.

I want to agree with you, Bucky. But, can he take the 20+? If not, wouldn't the Cardinals be better off with 7+, assuming they add a couple of good RBs?
 

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I would considering him playing a darren Sproles role
He is so much skilled as a receiver
To make him the workhorse ball carrier
 

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Dj can easily make 100 receiving yards for game
Can make catches everywhere, in traffic, deep in the sideline, short and medium ruote
 

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only in arizona do we ponder moving one of the top position players in the entire NFL to a different position.

I thought this would be more about contract discussions and how to handle the future. Due to this injury, I am now in the wait to extend him camp. If he doesn't get through next year all season healthy, I would go the one-two franchise tag route instead of an extension.

If he has a big year next year that is.
 
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Players who lower their shoulder end up with shorter careers. Emmitt Smith became the NFL career rushing leader not by a punishing defenders and seeking contact but by finding the right ways to go down.

This is dreadful advice.

You make a very interesting point about Emmitt Smith. The amazing thing about him is he only missed 14 games in 15 years. One of the major reasons was his pad level. Smith knew as well as any great RB ever how to protect his legs. Because of his pad level and his extraordinary low center of gravity and balance he was able to carom off hits for extra yards. He also was the epitome of the complete RB. He was a good short/screen pass receiver and a ferocious blocker.

Today, the best RBs are the ones who can punish LBers and DBs. Look at Marshawn Lynch. Did you see him lower the boom versus the Titans this week? How about Zeke Elliott? I will never forget one of his first pre-season games. It was versus the Seahawks and Kam Chancellor lined him up to put a licking on him, only Elliott lowered his shoulder and rocked Chancellor backward and Elliott kept chugging...that hit made shock waves around the NFL. Elliott sent a message that tackling me is going to be at a price. Look at LeGarrette Blount and his recent success and TD numbers. It's all about pad level. How about AP? He didn't put up HOF numbers by absorbing contact...few defenders in the league wanted to take him on.
 

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Those guys aren't the best RBs in th NFL--LeVeon Bell is. He's not a punishing my runner. David Johnson needs to pattern his game around Bell, Ladanian Tomlinson, and Marshall Faulk.
 

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Luck just wasn't on our side. As great as he has been injuries can happen at anytime and cut a career short. The only great player we have been lucky enough to remain relatively healthy throughout his career is Fitz.
 
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Those guys aren't the best RBs in th NFL--LeVeon Bell is. He's not a punishing my runner. David Johnson needs to pattern his game around Bell, Ladanian Tomlinson, and Marshall Faulk.

Le'Veon Bell has missed 17 games in 4 years. He's only played in all 16 games of a season once and that was three years ago.

I like the LT and Marshall Faulk comparisons, but they were both 5-10, 212 pounds, were built lower to the ground and were quicker. Their running styles, as I think you suggest, do not match David Johnson's.
 

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Le'Veon Bell has missed 17 games in 4 years. He's only played in all 16 games of a season once and that was three years ago.

I like the LT and Marshall Faulk comparisons, but they were both 5-10, 212 pounds, were built lower to the ground and were quicker. Their running styles, as I think you suggest, do not match David Johnson's.

Bell missed a majority of those games on a non-contact injury when he tore is groin.
 

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Those guys aren't the best RBs in th NFL--LeVeon Bell is. He's not a punishing my runner. David Johnson needs to pattern his game around Bell, Ladanian Tomlinson, and Marshall Faulk.

Agree. Comparisons to Emmitt Smith really aren't appropriate as they're styles are so vastly different, along with their bodies. Emmitt was quicker than DJ (not faster, but quicker), and as such, he hit holes and found creases much more timely than does Johnson. Smith was able to dart thru and often times would dive or fall thru creases before having to take on a multiple tacklers... Johnson has yet to show he can do this. As Mitch accurately points out, Johnson's style is extremely upright, unlike Emmitt. And, Johnson isn't quick to the hole like Emmitt was, which to me seems to allow Johnson to get hit/stood up by multiple tacklers at a time.
I honestly don't see Johnson having the prolonged career that Emmitt enjoyed, or even Tomlinson or Faulk for that matter... unless of course he learns to adjust his style to look more like those guys - namely, lower pad level and quicker to the hole...
 

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only in arizona do we ponder moving one of the top position players in the entire NFL to a different position.

I thought this would be more about contract discussions and how to handle the future. Due to this injury, I am now in the wait to extend him camp. If he doesn't get through next year all season healthy, I would go the one-two franchise tag route instead of an extension.

If he has a big year next year that is.

Injuries didn't stop them from extending HB. I don't think it will stop them from extending DJ.
 

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Injuries didn't stop them from extending HB. I don't think it will stop them from extending DJ.

I would not extend him this year. I would wait until he shows he can stay healthy and be DJ again after next season. That is an expensive gamble but I would take it all day at this point.
 

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Luck just wasn't on our side. As great as he has been injuries can happen at anytime and cut a career short. The only great player we have been lucky enough to remain relatively healthy throughout his career is Fitz.

Patrick Peterson too with the exception of his diabetes.
 

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