De'Aaron Fox

[Ronin]

Sam Amico did a nice little break down of about 6 players. Albeit it is for the 76ers perspective of having the 3rd overall pick.

De’Aaron Fox
FOR:

He’s a special talent, especially in terms of competitiveness. His NCAA tournament was wonderful. He’s a killer athlete. It’s probably Fox or Smith as the best athlete in the draft class. Fox will make a difference at the next level, regardless of his jumper. He’s drawn some Mike Conley comparisons. It took Conley some time to develop a consistent jumper, but Conley had all the intangibles and skills on the defensive end to eventually be a star.

AGAINST:

It’s easy to look at Fox’s postseason success and workout tapes from this spring and assume he’s the third best player in this draft. Recency bias plays a factor sometimes. His jumper is brutal. Fox’s misses end up all over the place. He can very well develop into a plus shooter, but it might take some time. Can Fox do enough on offense with limited spacing? That’s a crucial question for Bryan Colangelo and company to ask.

http://amicohoops.net/philadelphias...kson-jayson-tatum-lonzo-ball-dennis-smith-jr/

 

[Ronin]

The Lakers reportedly “love” Fox and are hoping to bring him into their practice facility over the next two weeks as they continue to prepare for the draft and decide which players they’ll select with their No. 2 and No. 28 picks of the first round.

http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/...t-pro-day-kentucky-stats-ranking-draftexpress

 

[Ronin]

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[Mainstreet]

Fox is a game changer going forward. He will be a special player. I hope the Suns do not rationalize away not picking him based upon their current roster.

Draft BPA.

 

[GatorAZ]

Sam Amico did a nice little break down of about 6 players. Albeit it is for the 76ers perspective of having the 3rd overall pick.

http://amicohoops.net/philadelphias...kson-jayson-tatum-lonzo-ball-dennis-smith-jr/

His NCAA tournament performance wasn't "wonderful". He had one good game.

I don't think I've seen one game catapult a player this much.

 

[Finito]

That's not true he was on the radar before the best PG all year were Fultz, Ball, Fox and Smith

 

[GatorAZ]

That's not true he was on the radar before the best PG all year were Fultz, Ball, Fox and Smith

He was never considered a top-3 pick before that game. He was 8th on DX heading into the tournament behind the three other PG's.

 

[Finito]

He was never considered a top-3 pick before that game. He was 8th on DX heading into the tournament behind the three other PG's.

So out of the 3 point guards were they Fultz, Ball and Smith?

 

[Russ Smith]

His NCAA tournament performance wasn't "wonderful". He had one good game.

I don't think I've seen one game catapult a player this much.

The part of that writeup that was interesting is the stuff about fox's shooting. The claim has been in workouts he looks great until people put him into "extended" shooting drills or scrimmages, then as that blurb said his shot is all over the place. if a guy is consistently short or long it's usually pretty fixable, when he's wide left, wide right, short or long etc it's MUCH harder to fix because it means there are multiple things wrong. I think Fox has way too much palm on the ball when he shoots, it is helpful for that floater he's good at but his jumpshot winds up really flat and again totally inconsistent his misses are often nowhere near.

Terrific player but the shot is the big question.

 

[overseascardfan]

I prefer Smith over Fox.

 

[Mainstreet]

I prefer Smith over Fox.

I think the torn ACL hurts pushes Smith's value down a bit. Otherwise, I think he right there with the rest of the top PGs.

He will make some team happy.

 

[GatorAZ]

UCLA was horrible defensively. Fox and Monk could do anything they wanted. Nobody talks about the next game where UNC (top-10 defense) shut them both down. Conference tourney and NCAA tourney 19 assists and 19 turnovers.

 

[JCSunsfan]

The part of that writeup that was interesting is the stuff about fox's shooting. The claim has been in workouts he looks great until people put him into "extended" shooting drills or scrimmages, then as that blurb said his shot is all over the place. if a guy is consistently short or long it's usually pretty fixable, when he's wide left, wide right, short or long etc it's MUCH harder to fix because it means there are multiple things wrong. I think Fox has way too much palm on the ball when he shoots, it is helpful for that floater he's good at but his jumpshot winds up really flat and again totally inconsistent his misses are often nowhere near.

Terrific player but the shot is the big question.

That is not conventional thinking any more. In fact, many coaches are teaching just the opposite.

https://www.breakthroughbasketball.com/fundamentals/shooting/5-shooting-mistakes.html

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[Russ Smith]

That is not conventional thinking any more. In fact, many coaches are teaching just the opposite.

https://www.breakthroughbasketball.com/fundamentals/shooting/5-shooting-mistakes.html

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I guess it depends, the shooting coach for the Spurs has said that was the biggest issue Kawhi had, his hands are so big his palm was on the ball too much, they worked with getting it off and it made his shot "softer."

the ball sort of sticks to your palm, the palm has to touch or you won't have control of the ball, but if it's on it too much, the ball sticks to your hand and you get wild variances in shooting. Fox at times really cradles the ball in his hand, they talked about it in several UK games this year his form is not "broken" but he has to get that ball up off the palm more.

 

[3rdside]

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The Lakers will absolutely select De'Aaron Fox at #2. Best option as of now, athletic ability, court vision, IQ, and an amazing kid.





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[pokerface]

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The Lakers will absolutely select De'Aaron Fox at #2. Best option as of now, athletic ability, court vision, IQ, and an amazing kid.





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So does that mean Philly is definitely taking Ball now? Hmmm

 

[overseascardfan]

So does that mean Philly is definitely taking Ball now? Hmmm

Probably a smoke screen so teams don't think they have to leap frog LA to take Ball or so BOS doesn't try and ransom the pick to fleece LA into a lopsided trade.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Probably a smoke screen so teams don't think they have to leap frog LA to take Ball or so BOS doesn't try and ransom the pick to fleece LA into a lopsided trade.

Who knows what to believe this time of year. If it is true, it is great news. It means that one of Ball or Jackson will be available at 4.

 

[SirStefan32]

Let's not get carried away. Does this Jake Weingarten have credibility? I have never heard of him.

 

[Covert Rain]

I don't believe any of this stuff this far ahead of the draft. Organizations leak false rumors all the time to give them a leg up on the draft.

 

[Mainstreet]

I don't believe any of this stuff this far ahead of the draft. Organizations leak false rumors all the time to give them a leg up on the draft.

It keeps us off the streets.

 

[Russ Smith]

Let's not get carried away. Does this Jake Weingarten have credibility? I have never heard of him.

I googled him, he works at SB Nation and A Sea of Blue. For those who don't know that's a Kentucky basketball fan site. Hmm where did Fox play again?

 

[3rdside]

I googled him, he works at SB Nation and A Sea of Blue. For those who don't know that's a Kentucky basketball fan site. Hmm where did Fox play again?

He seems credible, no idea how he got on my twitter feed though, but the fact he's from Kentucky...

 

[Russ Smith]

He seems credible, no idea how he got on my twitter feed though, but the fact he's from Kentucky...

He could be I have no idea I'm just saying a guy who writes about UK and works for a UK site probably has his own opinion leaking through. There's a bunch of reports from LA that say Magic absolutely loves Lonzo and is telling people they're picking him. Which is why I posted the other day it will be fascinating if they don't pick him because that means either Magic is lying, or he's not making the pick.

I should add I just looked at his twitter page now and he has a poll on there who are the Suns taking at 4, Fox or Jackson. So if the Lakers are "absolutely" drafting Fox at 2, how would the Suns pick him at 4?

 

[3rdside]

I'm comfortable that he's biased and there's draft mind games being played - from one tall play making guard to another, Magic Johnson is drafting Ball, period (surely?).

But if Jackson and Ball are both gone I'm strongly leaning Isaac at this point as there's no guarantee that Tatum will be much better than Warren, and if that's the case then why bother? Swing for the fences in other words (my exact words with Thon Maker at #13 last year).