Deal for Teixeira close?

[Arizona's Finest]

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http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/bi...lt=AtldUPMwDslZd_.9vKaE.94RvLYF?urn=mlb,96484
Source: D'backs and Braves deep into Teixeira trade talk

By 'Duk

While everyone is going agog over the Manny trade speculation that will most likely ultimately go nowhere, the wheeling and dealing for a much more attainable difference maker in Mark Teixeira is flying under the radar.

That could change quickly, though, because a front office source from another team interested in Teixeira just told Yahoo! Sports' Steve Henson that negotiations between the Diamondbacks and Braves were "pretty far along." The Braves are said to be asking for a prospect and either Conor Jackson or Chad Tracy in return.

Teixeira will be a free agent at the end of the season and a trade would mark the second time in as many years that the slugger was swapped at the trading deadline. The Braves gave up Jarrod Saltalamacchia and four minor leaguers to pry Tex from the Rangers last season.

If it goes through, it'd be a good trade for the D'backs, whose middling offense could use Texeira's power down the stretch while trying to fend off the Dodgers. Meanwhile, Tracy is scheduled to make $4.5 million next year in the last year of his deal while Jackson will be arbitration eligible for the first time this offseason.

Stay tuned.


If its Tracy I do it in a second. I say there is not a snowballs chance in hell of CoJack traded happening after whats happening with Carlos Quentin.

I'll put my "I love Josh Brynes" t-shirt on it in fact.....

 

[Shzm13]

Agreed.

Anyone but Jackson and Upton.. But if we get MT, this probably means we won't resign Hudson.. and we have nobody at 2B for the future.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Agreed.

Anyone but Jackson and Upton.. But if we get MT, this probably means we won't resign Hudson.. and we have nobody at 2B for the future.

Not so fast. All it means is that the Dbacks will probably be able to sign one or the other, but not both. I think it will depend on the quality of other "B Class" FA's at the time.

 

[HooverDam]

Its a terrible trade if they move Jackson, if its Tracy and a lower level prospect or a prospect thats clearly blocked then I'd be OK. But I don't think Mark Teixeira is worth a half season rental, he's not the difference between this team going to the world series or not. Though he may be the difference between them being a playoff team and not.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Moving Jackson for Big Tex at this point would be insane considering their numbers (Conor has a higher OPS) and contract status (Conor is under control thru 2011 while Tex is a FA this winter).

I still trust Josh Byrnes overall despite the Quentin-E.Byrnes fiasco, but I'm keeping an eye on him this time around. No matter what, Tex needs to be locked up long-term if a deal occurs. This organization cannot get into the habit of giving up quality players and prospects for rentals.

 

[The Commish]

I don't want to give up Jarrod Parker either. He's been rumored to be in the deal.

 

[azsouthendzone]

Pull the trigger.

 

[AZZenny]

Only if the gun is aimed at my head.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Its a terrible trade if they move Jackson, if its Tracy and a lower level prospect or a prospect thats clearly blocked then I'd be OK. But I don't think Mark Teixeira is worth a half season rental, he's not the difference between this team going to the world series or not. Though he may be the difference between them being a playoff team and not.

It is being discussed on the radio. No trade will be made that includes CoJack. It looks like it would be Chad Tracy and a prospect.

 

[mjb21aztd]

I would like to get Teixeira but for Tracy only it would be stupid to trade Jackson for him we wouldn't be geting that much of a upgrade if we included jackson in the deal. But if all we need to trade is Tracy then lets do it this team needs a power bat in the lineup

 

[mjb21aztd]

It is being discussed on the radio. No trade will be made that includes CoJack. It looks like it would be Chad Tracy and a prospect.

That is good news to hear any news to hear glad were not going to give up Jackson he is the dbacks best offensive player at this point, I hope they get the Teixeira done tonight that would be sweet my brother is a huge braves fan but he likes the dbacks also so he would like the move.

 

[Nasser22]

I really like Tracy, but in this case I'd do it. He's been having a very good season so that should boost his value enough so that we can get a deal done. Tracy is a career near .300, 20+ home run hitter so that is quality starting talent. Combined with a prospect or two it can be an attractive deal. Teixeira will put us in a great position to seriously compete this season and with a lot of money freeing up this off-season we will be able keep him, or at least Hudson... Losing a quality prospect will not bother me, because as I just heard on 620, with the couple free agents we will lose out of Cruz, Lyon, Teixeira, Hudson, etc... we can have 7-9 of the top 70 picks in the draft so we'll get the opportunity to restock our farm system while greatly increasing our chances in the short term.

As everyone has said, NO WAY if it includes Conor Jackson, who has become our best hitter and has greater value to this team than MT would.

 

[PDXChris]

It's dead, just updated on ESPN insider.

According to ESPN The Magazine's Buster Olney, the Atlanta Braves would trade first baseman Mark Teixeira to the Arizona Diamondbacks, but only if first baseman/outfielder Connor Jackson was included in the deal. The D-backs have no intention of parting ways with Jackson, so a deal with Arizona appears to be out of the question at this point.

Bay seems to be out too.

Pirates outfielder Jason Bay continues to draw interest from many teams, however the Pirates are asking for a lot in return and a deal seems very unlikely, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports.

But Manny actually may be a option

Boston Red Sox outfielder Manny Ramirez said on Sunday that he would not block a trade if general manager Theo Epstein could find a deal in which both sides would benefit.

Sean McAdam of the Providence Journal writes on Monday that at least four teams (Philadelphia Phillies, New York Mets, Arizona Diamondbacks and Los Angeles Dodgers) have contacted Boston concerning Ramirez.

Even if Ramirez is not traded by the deadline, it seems unlikely he will stay with the Red Sox long-term. He told Enrique Rojas of ESPNdeportes.com, "I'm tired of them. They're tired of me."

 

[mjb21aztd]

drag well atleast the dbacks weren't desperate enough to include Jackson in the deal for Teixeira kind of dispaointed we have no shot at getting him now though....

 

[The Commish]

It's dead, just updated on ESPN insider.




Bay seems to be out too.



But Manny actually may be a option

I think Jayson Stark said that it's still a possibility - obviously a lot of posturing on both sides at this point.

Red Sox won't trade Man-Ram when they're the leading contender to win another title. Just Manny being Manny.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

620 is discussing the Tracy deal like it still could be done.

 

[sundevil04]

I don't think the Tex trade makes any sense at all. I'd love to have his bat in the lineup but lets be honest we'd be renting him until october and giving up a VERY good .300 BA 20+HR guy in Tracy AND a top prospect. While I undersrtand that you must give value to get value, I don't see TEX as THAT much of an upgrade over Tracy with as well as Tracy has been hitting, coupled with the fact that our offense has been clicking as of late (don't mess with it). My big problem with the deal is that I don't see ANY way that Tex fits into the field past this season, when Byrnes returns he'll go back to LF and CoJack to 1B...where's that leave Tex...as a FA.

 

[Lefty]

If they can't sign Tex to an extension, I don't like this trade. The one thing that Tex does a lot better than Tracy is playing defense. He is one of the best defensive first baseman in the game.

 

[sundevil04]

If they can't sign Tex to an extension, I don't like this trade. The one thing that Tex does a lot better than Tracy is playing defense. He is one of the best defensive first baseman in the game.

But where does CoJack fit into the field next year when Byrnes returns if we have Tex at 1B? If we put him in LF, what do we do with Byrnes and his monster contract?

 

[hsandhu]

D'Backs should call the braves bluff. They HAVE to move him or they get nothing.

 

[SunsTzu]

what do we do with Byrnes and his monster contract?

Sit him and hopefully learn a lesson about signing marginal players to big money contracts.

 

[overseascardfan]

I really like Tracy, but in this case I'd do it. He's been having a very good season so that should boost his value enough so that we can get a deal done. Tracy is a career near .300, 20+ home run hitter so that is quality starting talent. Combined with a prospect or two it can be an attractive deal. Teixeira will put us in a great position to seriously compete this season and with a lot of money freeing up this off-season we will be able keep him, or at least Hudson... Losing a quality prospect will not bother me, because as I just heard on 620, with the couple free agents we will lose out of Cruz, Lyon, Teixeira, Hudson, etc... we can have 7-9 of the top 70 picks in the draft so we'll get the opportunity to restock our farm system while greatly increasing our chances in the short term.

As everyone has said, NO WAY if it includes Conor Jackson, who has become our best hitter and has greater value to this team than MT would.

I totally agree with you, I would have posted something close to what you have but you beat me to it. As long as Scherzer and Parker aren't included in the deal I am game. He helps us win the NL West and in the playoffs.

Another positive is that we get 2 pick for him after he bolts, 2 for both Hudson and Lyon, maybe 1 for Cruz and a couple other FA's and we get 9 players in the first 3 rounds of the draft. My only concern with that is next year's is considered pretty weak and our scouting team has not done a great job the last couple of years.

 

[The Commish]

D'Backs should call the braves bluff. They HAVE to move him or they get nothing.

Not true. If he remains on the Braves for the rest of the season and signs somewhere else during the offseason, the Braves will receive two supplemental first rounders in next years draft as compensation. Teams have to offer something better than that to get him.

 

[BC867]

But where does CoJack fit into the field next year when Byrnes returns if we have Tex at 1B? If we put him in LF, what do we do with Byrnes and his monster contract?

I can't believe I'm saying this, but if it's a choice of having to put Brynes back into the starting lineup, it should be in RF, rather than LF.

Play Justin Upton or Conor Jackson? It has to be CoJack.

Which is why I hate what Eric Brynes has done to this team.

Justin Upton should have the opportunity to develop as a All Star with this team. But so far, D'backs management hasn't shown it can make that happen.

Not with Chris Young. Not with Quentin. Etc.

 

[scXfreakX]

So, a poll of this forum might suggest that everyone's opinion is that Eric Byrnes = development stopper? I might agree with that. Byrnes was given WAAY too big of a contract and now we're paying for it. In both ways. And now we feel like we will have to play him when he comes back because we're paying him 30 freaking million dollars.